Politics and Religion

Jack, actually WW is not a communist
GaGambler 445 reads
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He is of the opinion that communism doesn't go FAR ENOUGH. If you put Che, Hugo, Fidel and Raul all in a line up, Willy would be the guy standing ten feet to the left of all of them. lol

with out the concept of Religion?

 

IMO, Capitalism(along with socialism[can't have socialism with out capitalism]) is a Religion.

as a system of economics, and government.

Religion has historically been involved with both government and economics. Capitalism is a Religion minus the religious innuendo.  

 
You even expressed you distaste for the Korean Christian community, because they like to flaunt their admiration of Capitalism in Church.

 
... if you are pro-capitalism that shouldn't offend you.

... if you are anti-religion that shouldn't offend you

His posts are getting dumber and dumber,  I'm not even sure what to say to such stupid posts.  Yawn is the best reply.  Rofl

GaGambler363 reads

Is to quit feeding him.

It drives them absolutely fucking crazy when you won't play their stupid little game.

Remember bird brain? I used to drive him nuts because I would never talk to him directly, no matter how hard he tried to bait me.

I know it's fun to play "whack a troll" but it's even more fun to simply starve them and then watch their little heads explode. lmao

...and I'm not playing a game.

Posted By: GaGambler
Is to quit feeding him.

It drives them absolutely fucking crazy when you won't play their stupid little game.

Remember bird brain? I used to drive him nuts because I would never talk to him directly, no matter how hard he tried to bait me.

I know it's fun to play "whack a troll" but it's even more fun to simply starve them and then watch their little heads explode. lmao

followme229 reads

And I believe him because for those who cannot get laid, jerking off is not a game.

 
Thank You  
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Do you really take it personal when people talk down about certain elements of capitalism?

... or do you take personal offense when your religion is criticized?

You should go back to following your BF, BigBackstabber.

I wasn't casting either in a negative light, just wondering where one would be with out the other.

Posted By: followme
And I believe him because for those who cannot get laid, jerking off is not a game.  
   
   
 Thank You  
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And the OP is quite right. Among the Capitalist-Fundies, like the Libertarian party and the Ayn Rand crowd, capitalism IS their religion.  

And what a stupid fucking religion it is.

JackDunphy331 reads

Ayn Rand, Libertarians and the constitution signers had their capitalism and you have your communism. All good.

GaGambler446 reads

He is of the opinion that communism doesn't go FAR ENOUGH. If you put Che, Hugo, Fidel and Raul all in a line up, Willy would be the guy standing ten feet to the left of all of them. lol

When you move to far to the left, you just end up on the right.

Posted By: GaGambler
He is of the opinion that communism doesn't go FAR ENOUGH. If you put Che, Hugo, Fidel and Raul all in a line up, Willy would be the guy standing ten feet to the left of all of them. lol
...at least Willy could comprehend my post.

That's got to be the funniest fucking thing I've heard all year.  

Modern capitalism didn't exist in the Founder's day. In fact, most people these days would be surprised to know that the USA wasn't always a capitalist country. At our founding we had a mercantilist economy.  

I'm also sure, Jack, that you haven't looked too deeply at Alexander Hamilton's opinion on the subject by reading his 1791 Report on the Subject of Manufactures, in which he lays out what came to be known as the American School of Economics, which is basically the opposite of free trade. Hamilton had a simple idea: charge high tax rates on imported goods like fine French wine and expensive furs. In other words, create the incentive to keep US jobs here at home, and if the rich wanted to buy expensive things made overseas, charge them very high tax rates on it.  

Just as I'm also sure that you're not familiar with the real Adam Smith, who was quite critical of the effects of capital markets, particularly upon the laborer, saying that,

"The man whose whole life is spent in performing a few simple operations, of which the effects are perhaps always the same, or very nearly the same, has no occasion to exert his understanding or to exercise his invention in finding out expedients for removing difficulties which never occur. He naturally loses, therefore, the habit of such exertion, and generally becomes as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human creature to become."

And that:

"Our merchants and masters complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price and lessening the sale of goods. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people."

And that:

"No society can surely be flourishing and happy of which by far the greater part of the numbers are poor and miserable."

And that:

"It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

And then you have Jefferson, who wanted a ban on corporate monopolies written right into the Bill of Rights, and that probably would have happened if he wasn't in France acting as US ambassador at the time.  

In fact, the Boston Tea Party itself as a revolt against the British giving a corporation a massive tax cut, while taxing American merchants. You can see many of the Founders being quite angry in their protests against the British East India Company, which for their day, was the largest corporation in the world.

A pamphlet that was circulated in the colonies called the Alarm and was signed by "Rusticus" stated:

"Are we in like Manner to be given up to the Disposal of the East India Company, who have now the Assurance, to step forth in Aid of the Minister, to execute his Plan, of enslaving America? Their Conduct in Asia, for some Years past, has given simple Proof, how little they regard the Laws of Nations, the Rights, Liberties, or Lives of Men...Fifteen hundred Thousands, it is said, perished by Famine in one Year, not because the Earth denied its Fruits; but because this Company and their Servants engulfed all the Necessaries of Life, and set them at so high a Rate that the poor could not purchase them."

Rusticus proclaimed: "I shall therefore conclude with a proposal that your watchmen be instructed, as they go on their rounds, to call out every night, half-past twelve, 'Beware of the East India Company.'"

And it was the Company's tea that was dumped in Boston Harbor. It was the destruction of corporate property, with a value in today's dollars of about $1.1 million dollars.  

To say that the Founders were fans of capitalism is to spit on their graves. I will leave you with this, Jack.  

"Resolve therefore, nobly resolve, and publish to the World your Resolutions, that no Man will receive the Tea, no Man will let his Stores, or suffer the Vessel that brings it to moor at his Wharf, and that if any Person assists at unloading, landing, or storing it, he shall ever after be deemed an Enemy to his Country"  - “Rusticus”, May 27, 1773

That's right, Jack. Those who aid and abet corporate profits are to be viewed as Enemies of the United States of America. That's what the Founders had to say on this subject.

JackDunphy407 reads

The founding fathers knew this as they were FREE ENTERPRISE guys.  

Why was there a revolution to begin with? The framers HATED big government monetary intervention which they rightfully knew was a restriction of their liberty!

From the Stamp act, Tea Act, Sugar Act, etc etc etc  they were determined to adopt a free enterprise system and abolish the mercantile system that was forced upon them from England.  

The big entitlement state we have today, with all its rules, regulations, waste, fraud, and abuse would be an anathema to them Willy

America appears to have actually lost WWII.

 
... am I wrong?

Capitalism requires morality to survive over the long-term. When society got to large for everyone to know each other, that is when government had to step in and legislate morality (fair dealing in all its forms).

So, captialism would not be where it is today without religion. Can it work without religion? Sure, but there needs to be laws to keep immorality in check

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