No scandal and nothing to see here so everyone should just STFU?
I am honestly asking your opinion on this rather than point the finger at Bush, republicans, and sidestepping the issue. So do you think this is a real scandal or a faux one? Why or why not?June 17, 2014 11:31 AM
IRS Has Lost More E-mails . . .
By Eliana Johnson
It’s not just Lois Lerner’s e-mails. The Internal Revenue Service says it can’t produce e-mails from six more employees involved in the targeting of conservative groups, according to two Republicans investigating the scandal.
The IRS recently informed Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp and subcommittee chairman Charles Boustany that computer crashes resulted in additional lost e-mails, including from Nikole Flax, the chief of staff to former IRS commissioner Steven Miller, who was fired in the wake of the targeting scandal.
The revelation about Lerner’s e-mails rekindled the targeting scandal and today’s news has further inflamed Republicans. Camp and Boustany are now demanding a special prosecutor to investigate “every angle” of the events that led to Lois Lerner’s revelation in May 2013 that the agency had used inappropriate criteria to review the applications for tax exemption.
The lawmakers expressed particular outrage that the agency has known since February that it would not be able to produce the e-mails requested by the committee yet did not apprise the committee of that fact, and they charged in a statement that the IRS is attempting to “cover up the fact that it convenient lost key documents in the investigation.”
If Lerner is the central figure in the scandal — Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa said Monday evening he believes she was the senior-most official involved — Flax may be an important auxiliary figure. E-mails produced in response to a Freedom of Information Act request from the group Judicial Watch show Flax giving the green light to Lerner’s request to meet with Department of Justice officials to explore the possibility of criminally prosecuting nonprofit groups — at the suggestion of Democratic senator Sheldon Whitehouse — for engaging in political activity after declaring on their application for nonprofit status that they had no plans to do so.
E-mails uncovered by the committee last week showed that, in preparation for her meeting with the Department of Justice, Lerner and one of her advisers transmitted 1.1 million pages of data on nonprofit groups, including confidential taxpayer information, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, potentially in violation of federal law.
Obama's Justice Department and IRS is completely corrupt.
It's "entirely reasonable" those emails are lost. You never heard of a computer crashing?
I guess, according the author anyway, as long as Obama says he's sorry, it would make it OK! 
No scandal and nothing to see here so everyone should just STFU?
I am honestly asking your opinion on this rather than point the finger at Bush, republicans, and sidestepping the issue.
So do you think this is a real scandal or a faux one? Why or why not?
Does that make it a scandal? Not, in my book. Not, until the reason why they are missing is brought to the surface.
But, it's not without precedent. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12emails.html?_r=0
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/26/AR2010022603765.html
But, don't mistake my addressing hypocrisy and hyperbole with not being concerned about government malfeasance, be it administrative or congressional. I've said at the beginning and all along that if there was any wrong doing by the Obama administration, I want to know about, and have it prosecuted. Just as the democrat congressmen wanted and pursued answers, in regards to the Bush administration, I believe the republican congressmen are entitled to the same (and I'd hope the democrats are just as interested in pursing the truth), in this case, regarding Benghazi, etc. I'm just not prepared to call something a scandal, and assign blame before all the facts are in.
1) why isn't Obama saying he will get to the bottom of this and bring in a computer forensics expert?
2) you would agree that an independent prosecutor now needs to be assigned so we can determine the reason as to why they are missing, correct?
Executive branch conspiring to target private citizens for prosecution for their political views in contravention of the law!!
Instead we get a partisan deflection.
Why am I not surprised??
Question #1: Why would anyone want to give the noose to thepeople who are trying to hang you. I would make the Congress deal with the fact gathering
Question#2: I've never been a fan of Independent prosecutors ever since the Ken Starr fiasco during the Clinton years. They are unfocused and spend too much time expanding the box. Secondarily, I haven't seen any evidence of criminal activity. There may be administrative malfeasance, but nothing that indicates criminal activity. Bottom line is that these were political entities that appeared to be violating their tax status.
2) you would agree that an independent prosecutor now needs to be assigned so we can determine the reason as to why they are missing, correct?
Think that makes congress's fact gathering a little difficult DA? Come on.
Some one OUTSIDE of the Obama WH needs to bring in as an Indy Prosecutor to find the emails, determine why Lois Lerner is taking the Fifth and look into all the claims of Tea Party groups getting audited and their tax status not determined.
He lost America's faith when he lied about keeping your doctor. He doesn't deserve ANY benefit of the doubt at this point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoRDdog5vYU
Elijah Cummings is a stalinist hypocrite too!!
1. Why would Obama get his hands into something he's accused of having his hands in?
2. See DAFlex's response.
This has been many a Republican's dream, pull out all stops to try and uncover a scandal. It keeps the president on the defensive, and reduces the time and energy he can spend toward his own agenda, and if they're lucky they might find he's getting a blow-job from an intern.
Where did I say "we should do NOTHING"? I think something is being done. Good old Issa is still on it!
Issa can not get all the facts b/c IRS is saying the crucial emails are gone. Issa does not have the power to to get to the bottom of why/how/when/by whom those emails went missing. He isn't allowed to bring in a forensic computer expert unless Obama gives him the ok and only Holder can appoint a neutral 3rd party to uncover the truth.
Now that IRS has said six people involved emails are now "lost", any rational person, including liberal Ron Fournier of the National Journal, can conclude that it now looks like a crime with Lois Lerner taking the 5th, and worse now a cover up. But we don't know for sure unless we have an Indy prosecutor.
See the problem here Matt?
Then act like a cheerleader for Obama crime syndicate
Hypocrite
You lost your argument on this issue long ago by squealing like a radical. You let your emotions get in ahead of your thoughts and you lose every time. 
Hypocrite
"discussion."
.........A Republican House member announced yesterday the votes were there for impeachment. The last time Republicans engaged in such a blatantly partisan impeachment, they suffered in the next election. If they do this during the last two years of Obama's presidency, then the next election will be a presidential election, and a year in which Republicans will have to defend twenty-three Senate seats. They could wind up handing the House back to the Democrats, and maybe even give the Dems a veto-proof majority in the Senate if they don't watch it
affiliations "blatantly partisian"?
What's next, hit squads?
I mean just how do you think your political buttbuddies can go to gain power?
Private individuals? That's a stretch. These appeared to be political organizations and from what I understand, liberal leaning orgs were investigated as well. Nothing individual or private at all.
What's next, hit squads?
I mean just how do you think your political buttbuddies can go to gain power?
Get bootstrapped and get back to me.
"My life before I spoke out for good government stands in stark contrast to the life I now lead. As a wife, a mother, and small businesswoman working with my husband, raising our children and participating in my church and PTA, the government collected my taxes and left me and my family in peace. But when I helped found and led True the Vote and King Street Patriots, I found myself a target of this federal government," she said. "Shortly after filing IRS forms to establish 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, an assortment of federal entities including law enforcement agencies and a Congressman from Maryland, Elijah Cummings came knocking at my door. In nearly two decades of running our small business, my husband and I never dealt with any government agency, outside of filing our annual tax returns. We had never been audited, we had never been investigated, but all that changed upon submitting applications for the non profit statuses of True the Vote and King Street Patriots. Since that filing in 2010, my private businesses, my nonprofit organizations, and family have been subjected to more than 15 instances of audit or inquiry by federal agencies."
Engelbrecht was audited by the IRS, ATF and received multiple visits by OSHA and ATF.
"I found myself a target of this federal government," she said.
-- Modified on 6/18/2014 1:01:03 PM
This was never about private citizens. It was organizations trying to circumvent campaign finance laws by being designated as "Social welfare organizations". This allowed them to spend unlimited amounts on political campaigns without reporting the source of the money. They can and do accept donations from people and groups that can't legally donate directly to candidates under federal law. (It's the only reason for their existence.)
.......down the road
.......impeachment proceedings against him at this time would probably provide some welcome relief. It sure helped to resuscitate Bill Clinton's presidency.
Poll Shows Erosion in Obama's Support
A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll "finds President Obama's job approval rating at 41%, matching a previous low. Approval of his handling of foreign policy hit a new low of 37%. Both numbers are driven in part by conflicts largely outside the president's control, including a new wave of sectarian violence in Iraq."
"This latest dip in Mr. Obama's approval runs contrary to signs Americans agree with his policies on climate change and education, and as a divided Republican Party remains far less popular than the president and his party. Despite misgivings toward Mr. Obama, the survey showed the public sides with him and his fellow Democrats on a range of issues, including immigration, education and the environment."
And maybe Obamas beard can lead a similar "nuts and sluts" strategy like Hilda beast did!
I'm sure that will make Stalinist like you happy!
Poll Shows Erosion in Obama's Support
A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll "finds President Obama's job approval rating at 41%, matching a previous low. Approval of his handling of foreign policy hit a new low of 37%. Both numbers are driven in part by conflicts largely outside the president's control, including a new wave of sectarian violence in Iraq."
"This latest dip in Mr. Obama's approval runs contrary to signs Americans agree with his policies on climate change and education, and as a divided Republican Party remains far less popular than the president and his party. Despite misgivings toward Mr. Obama, the survey showed the public sides with him and his fellow Democrats on a range of issues, including immigration, education and the environment."
The whole country is fed up with Obama, minus of course a very small and very loud remaining Obamatards who have chosen to go down with the ship.
Teddy Nutz, et.al., is not the US constitution