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This is why there is no dialogue
dncphil 16 Reviews 176 reads
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I have recycled since I was 14 years old, going on 50 years.  I live a very environmentally friendly life in to many ways to list.  

I hate to provide a chance for people to change the subject, but I just do not believe in some of the things the "envionrmentalist" movement stands for and I think it has been taken over by people who are just mistaken out of good feelings.  
 
That said, Why can't people accept that I am in honest and  good faith disagreement.  It cannot be that I have doubts about the accuracy of some computer projections. No. I have to be described as someone who "hates the earth."  I am de facto a "fucking pollution lover."  

When someone is a "fucking pollution lover," why even bother to talk to him.

The GOP doesn't hate clean air. We have to breath it also.  Our children drink the water, as to I.  Is it possible that we just question whether all the steps demanded are necessary or even productive.

Just one example, Canadian oil will be drilled and used no matter what happens to the pipeline.  All that does is change how it gets to market.  It will not affect the air one way or another, since it will still be used.  

But can we be given the benefit of the doubt that we have a good faith support of the project or do we just hate the earth, being a bunch of fucking polution lovers?

...and the first Earth Day occurred during his administration.  However, Nixon's paranoia caused him to have J. Edgar Hoover spy on college students celebrating Earth Day.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0422/Earth-Day-1970-How-President-Nixon-spied-on-Earth-Day

But today's GOP hates the Earth.  Those fucking pollution lovers haven't uttered the words "Earth Day" in Congress since 2010.

I really don't think conservatives think too deeply about this. They just know that all those hippy liberals seem to love the environment, and they hate liberals, so fuck the environment. The other aspect to this is that they keep saying that, "if we're not allowed to keep shitting where we eat, then the economy will go down the shitter." Try to follow that logic. If you can, then chances are you're Sarah Palin level retarded.  

But let's get real here. Celebrating "Earth Day" doesn't do shit for the environment either. Not a damn thing. You know what would do something for the environment? Arresting the executive board of ExxonMobil for crimes against humanity.  

Let's face it. If Akmid McBlowMeUp said "Praise Allah" before dumping a shit ton of toxic sludge into the Gulf of Mexico, we'd elect a babbling drunk to the Presidency, just so he could invade the wrong country. But if we change Akmid McBlowMeUp's name to British Petroleum, then it's just an industrial accident. Pay a few fines, and off ya go.  

This is why I say that Osama bin Laden's biggest mistake was not incorporating first. If Osama was some corporate shithead CEO, then Time magazine would have put him on the cover of their magazine on 9/12, calling him a Wall Street maverick.

There is no level of bullshit that capitalists aren't allowed to fuck this country over with, without every Republican on Capitol Hill buffing their cocks. 25 buildings were destroyed or damaged on 9/11, and we spent 5 trillion dollars killing the motherfuckers responsible. A fertilizer company in Texas blows up and 150 buildings are destroyed and fucking nothing is done. A company in West Virginia pollutes a river, depriving everyone of safe drinking water and fucking nothing is done. An energy company in North Carolina dumps a shit ton of coal ash, and fucking nothing is done.  

I gotta ask, if the shitheads who did this were named Akhbar, wouldn't we fly a couple fucking drones to their house and bomb the shit out of them?

"They just know that all those hippy liberals seem to love the environment, and they hate liberals"

I've found that when people can't even frame the arguments of people they don't like in accurate and reasonable ways, they're more like team sports fans than objective participants in debate.

Characterizing Conservatives the way you did only makes sense to people who already are wearing your jersey and rooting for your team.  People in the middle and on the other side know that the arguments they've heard against runaway environmentalism are substantive and sound.

Take, for example, the EPA's major overreach of its charge to keep clean "navigable waters" whereby they've used the government's incredible power to go after homeowners, small farmers and ranchers who have puddles on their land.  It's a disgrace and has nothing to do with keeping our air and water clean.

"There is no level of bullshit that capitalists aren't allowed to fuck this country over with, without every Republican on Capitol Hill buffing their cocks"

Wait a sec, what party was in control of Congress when all that cock buffing Wall Street bailout happened?  Democrats.  It's also worth noting that Democrats are raising record amounts from big donors over the past few years.  They're way ahead of Republicans in that column.

Meh... I don't know why I waste my time.

Cataclysm245 reads

for the rights of tadpoles.  

Why do lefty Californians vote against energy and then cry over rolling blackouts .  

Why do dope heads cry every year when it's time to reduce the size of plague carrying prairie dog populations .  

Why do old men try to talk smack to killers ?  

Why do stupid lefties cry about pipelines and the rising cost
Of energy in the same breath .  

Why is AL QAEDA having block parties with over 300 of their pals long after the clueless HNIC said they were decimated .

Why isn't Hilary in prison for Ambassador Stevens murder

the fundementalist Christians take the Bible literally that 2nd Christ is coming, they haven't yet figured out THEY are the 2nd coming to bring heaven (peace) to earth.  And the anti-christ is also them, don't be deceived by intolerance, bigotry, prejudice and hate of fundementalist religions.

Because they want and need people to  be more dependent on the state. The EPA and all the other massive agencies in DC are the tools they use to excessively regulate private business and infringe upon the rights of the owners of private property. The results of which cause lost jobs and less economic individual economic freedom. Ask a member of the coal miners union.

Posted By: BigPapasan
...and the first Earth Day occurred during his administration.  However, Nixon's paranoia caused him to have J. Edgar Hoover spy on college students celebrating Earth Day.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0422/Earth-Day-1970-How-President-Nixon-spied-on-Earth-Day

But today's GOP hates the Earth.  Those fucking pollution lovers haven't uttered the words "Earth Day" in Congress since 2010.

Pimpathy149 reads

I'm sure it does. Mining coal, beats having no food on your table.

I have recycled since I was 14 years old, going on 50 years.  I live a very environmentally friendly life in to many ways to list.  

I hate to provide a chance for people to change the subject, but I just do not believe in some of the things the "envionrmentalist" movement stands for and I think it has been taken over by people who are just mistaken out of good feelings.  
 
That said, Why can't people accept that I am in honest and  good faith disagreement.  It cannot be that I have doubts about the accuracy of some computer projections. No. I have to be described as someone who "hates the earth."  I am de facto a "fucking pollution lover."  

When someone is a "fucking pollution lover," why even bother to talk to him.

The GOP doesn't hate clean air. We have to breath it also.  Our children drink the water, as to I.  Is it possible that we just question whether all the steps demanded are necessary or even productive.

Just one example, Canadian oil will be drilled and used no matter what happens to the pipeline.  All that does is change how it gets to market.  It will not affect the air one way or another, since it will still be used.  

But can we be given the benefit of the doubt that we have a good faith support of the project or do we just hate the earth, being a bunch of fucking polution lovers?

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