I guarantee you, you're talking about one-tenth of one percent of the people on this board. And until you finally clarified what you were talking about, your statements on the subject were much broader, as if they applied to all.
Bottom line, you need to stop talking out of your ass because you've got about zero credibility now. Your entire rep is based on being this board'
Has anyone had any experience with sex resorts like Charlie's Angels in the Dominican Republic? Is there a way to be sure it's legit and not a front for human trafficking? I want nothing to do with helping anyone force anyone else into something against their will. If it's legitimate, then I need to start saving for vacation.
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With the human trafficking laws and the way they are written, you will be seen as being involved. The human trafficking bill now held up in congress over some abortion bullshit is scary (H.R. 3530). I say go (I have made plans to hobby internationally) but have a story when you get back. ICE may question you about hobbying if you traveled alone.
I travel internationally more than once a month, and 99% of the time I also travel alone, AND most of the time I travel to hobbying hotspots like Costa Rica, Panama, or Colombia. I have NEVER had an issue with ICE about hobbying, and I sometimes even volunteer the fact that I was off out of the country getting drunk and whore mongering. Usually it just brings a smile to the customs agents face. lol
BTW I think the question the OP was asking was whether or not there was "real" human trafficking going on at these places staffed by mainly Eastern European women, and to that question I am afraid I don't have the answer, but if the OP is worried about human trafficking my suggestion is "go native" skip the all inclusive places and see local girls when you travel, the chances of any of them being trafficked are almost nil and the rates are MUCH more reasonable.
One of my buddies was asked point blank in NY by ICE if he did prostitution in Curaçao (Campo Alegre). He had a hard time saying no with a big smile on his face when the ICE agent asked him that.
I have made several hundred international trips in the post 9-11 era, and I have NEVER had a single customs agent give two shits, or even one shit, if I had been out of the country fucking hookers.
and FWIW prostitution is completely legal in Curacao, as it is in both Bonaire and Aruba.
I have admitted, (without even being prompted) to fucking prostitutes in a dozen different countries over the last decade or so while clearing US Customs and have almost always generated nothing but a chuckle from the Customs Agent.
His Q-Clearance would have been revoked and out of a job.
It's the ONLY thing that you seem to have any experience in, and even then 90% of your advice is wrong.
Now please quit dumbing this place down. Some one new here might actually take you seriously
People with clearances are required by law to have a security briefing with their security officer before leaving the us. They are also required to debrief when they return to work.
The security officer is notified about other issues such as dwi/dui.
There is a process ones goes through for adjudication to get a revoked clearance back. For a hobby incident people don't get them back. For a martial affair the agency requires you tell your spouse otherwise you get fired on spot.
For a dwi/dui first offense if you do treatment program you get the clearance back.
I guarantee you, you're talking about one-tenth of one percent of the people on this board. And until you finally clarified what you were talking about, your statements on the subject were much broader, as if they applied to all.
Bottom line, you need to stop talking out of your ass because you've got about zero credibility now. Your entire rep is based on being this board'
You can go see as many hookers as you want and most countries couldn't give a shit. If youre worried about this you should find another hobby.
Just posting details and background information. Not trying to scare anyone. If a lot of folks with clearances stopped hobbying the hobby would shutdown in some cities in the U.S. lol.
Some security officers have a good sense of humor. They have a don't ask don't tell policy. They will tell you what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. that means don't talk about hobby stuff at work.
U.S. citizens who have produced proof of citizenship and a written customs declaration are not obligated to answer questions posed by Customs when they are entering the U.S.
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And how the fuck did we go from asking about sex trafficking to you talking about people with clearances getting in trouble over DUI's.
I held a pretty high clearance for a number of years, and yes, you can get in a pickle by breaking the law, but that shit about telling your spouse about an affair? Pure bullshit.
The security officer is notified about other issues such as dwi/dui.
There is a process ones goes through for adjudication to get a revoked clearance back. For a hobby incident people don't get them back. For a martial affair the agency requires you tell your spouse otherwise you get fired on spot.
For a dwi/dui first offense if you do treatment program you get the clearance back.
The affair stuff is true I know some who choose to resign and lost all his clearances. He had a life style polygraph.
I know another guy who passed the polygraph and was a hobbyist. The 5 year polygraph came up and failed. They asked him if he committed a crime. That's how they got him to spill the guts about hobby activities. He lost all his clearances and lost the court case. He had a female judge who was outaged. You can read the case on the internet. Its on the government adjudication website.
Some hobbyists won't see providers who are foreign nationals to stay out trouble with background investigations.
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Dude, he lost his clearance because he was an idiot and admitted to several felonies.
I'm done.
I know another guy who passed the polygraph and was a hobbyist. The 5 year polygraph came up and failed. They asked him if he committed a crime. That's how they got him to spill the guts about hobby activities. He lost all his clearances and lost the court case. He had a female judge who was outaged. You can read the case on the internet. Its on the government adjudication website.
There are a lot of cases out there and there is a big industry of lawyers who work to help guys get their clearances back. You are not talking about the same case(s) I am talking about.
When you read the cases the names are taken out (redacted).
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Your friend, if you even have any friends, committed no crime, and thus it was none of the customs agents business if your "friend" fucked a hooker, or a hundred of them.
and my original point still remains, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
You guys all sound like you have a heathy conscience. I sure a guy is aware when it trafficking ! If it look like it smells like then it is. There is enoff out there that you don't need slaves just to have sex. Lol gross and inexcusable as we all agree?
Underage is just wrong and phychologically is severe brutality that stay in the mind as in war. replaying itself to the victims/underage kid. It create monsters out of children and hate. I could give a list in jail over unthinkable crimes.
Ok I will get off my soap box now. Lol la la play safe and fair. Plenty to play with so no excuse for dumb shit.
You're correct. I am more concerned with "real" trafficking. I understand laws in different places might get thorny, and might even be applied to varying degrees at different times, or different regions within a country. The only thing I'm truly concerned about is whether or not the women I'm spending time with are doing so voluntarily, and not against their wills. I'm all for fun and freedom, but if it's at the expense of someone else's liberty, safety, and volition, I can't really think of a worse thing to do to someone (short of physical violence, and even then it might still be worse mentally and emotionally).
I don't have anything against "going native" and probably will when I finally get to do a hobbying vacation, but I also see the appeal of the all-included kind of getaway. Of course, it's super expensive, so it's a once in a great, great while kind of thing, but I'd certainly like to give it a shot if I could know beyond a doubt it's safe for the girls. So does anyone know about Charlie's Angels or Blue Oxygen?
In terms of "going native" I've been considering saving for a vacation at Blackbeard's Adult resort. Are there any others I should consider? Thanks for the input.
If you like beach resorts and want to stay in this hemisphere, Jaco Beach in Costa Rica is a great option. It's ala carte, but you can stay right there on the property and never lack for food, drink, sun, sand or pussy. Rooms are only in the hundred dollar range, chicas are about $100-150 hr, with substantial discounts if you want them to stay for longer periods. The same chica that will charge you $150 for an hour will most likely spend all night with you for $300.
As for BlackBeards, it's even cheaper, and I have heard very good things about it from some mongers that I trust. I just haven't made it there YET. lol
As for "Human trafficking" with the Eastern European girls, I don't have any first hand experience, but somehow I doubt that any gangsters are having to force these girls to go to a beachfront resort to only have to fuck one guy a day, compared to there "day job" which I can only imagine is a LOT more work, in much less pleasant surroundings. I really can't imagine them having to resort to force to staff their resorts, but again I have no first hand knowledge to back this up. I can guarantee you that the chicas at the Co Cal are all there of their own free will, and some of them only work one or two days a week as that's all the money they really need.
Campo Alegre in Curaçao. A few years ago they were $30/hour US.
I didn't see any reason to further discuss Campo Alegre as it's been thoroughly discussed already on this very thread.
Are you really this stupid in real life? My god man, you are a fucking moron.