I have been looking on here for quite some time now. I have tried to make a few appointments work, and unfortunately backed out of a couple along the way. With plenty of notice (I am not disrespectful) being new to this, with no references makes most of the women leary of me. I don't blame them, because the main reason I have no references is because I'm a bit nervous myself. The last thing I want to do is get in trouble over something as simple as this should be.
But, here I am once again. Wanting to make this happen, I have tried to make contact with a few that I like. And one of only does out call, which I don't prefer because I don't live in the area. I pass through occasionally for work..
Any advice would be helpful, besides becoming VIP. (Does that really make that big of a difference?
Also, if there are any younger (early to mid 20'September preferably) newbie friendly providers.... please let me know if you are willing to give a guy his first shot in this new hobby.
this sounds fake as shit. Before the helpful few chime in to tell you to check the newbie board and all sorts of funny fun shit. This.post.sounds.fake.as.shit.
bored.manipul....
Sorry that you think I'm fake. I'm not really sure how to respond to that, or what part of me asking for advice on this sounds fake. Is it so bad that I have a real meaningful life that I want to protect? I have read the newbie board, I have looked all over the Internet. And came to the conclusion that the only "real" advice I could get would be from this board.
I'm not asking anyone to put themselves out there, or anyone else for that matter. That's why at the end I asked the providers themselves if they would be interested.
I really am new to this, and was only hoping for some true advice on how to not make a stupid decision, just so I could become "real" to you.
We all have to start somewhere, maybe I was wrong reaching out here
his or her opinion. Board? Comments?
I agree, everyone is and should be entitled to their opinion. And I welcome each and every one of them. But, that still doesn't explain why you feel that I'm fake. I'm just wanting to get started, and am having an issue with doing so. BTW, Wongbater, I have read many of your comments during my lurking time on here. And know that you are one of those who's opinion I need to listen to. That's why I continue to reply to your messages, and ask about why you feel I'm not being honest
Just some tips for newbies that I've picked up through experience and listening to other people:
1. Check out the newbie board; lots of good info there
2. Get the VIP membership so you can see the review details and have access to the PM system
3. Spend some time learning how to use the search functions for both reviews and the discussion board so you can identify ladies you would be interested in seeing based on the criteria that matter most to you (ex: looks, menu, rates, etc.)
4. Figure out what kind of verification the ladies you would like to see require and how you can meet those requirements. Some ladies are very particular. Others are more flexible. It's OK to contact them about it if you are not sure; just remember to be discreet. Any explicit questions will likely get you disconnect or otherwise ignored.
5. Some ladies advertise here or on other sites that they are newbie friendly; keep an eye out for that.
6. Consider joining a site such as P411 that pre-screens potential clients. Some escorts will accept membership in such sites as satisfactory verification.
7. If you are still puzzled by something after having done research, please feel free to ask questions. I think for the most part we are willing to help out so long as we think you are not just freeloading on what others have learned.
8. Develop a bit of a thick skin; some people are going to be jerks regardless.
9. If an ad or offer looks TGTBT, it's probably TGTBT.
10. If you find yourself in any situation that doesn't feel quite right, trust your instincts and walk away.
11. As a newcomer, stick with well-reviewed ladies. It's harder when you are inexperienced to figure out who the legit providers are from the fakes and scammers when they don't have reviews.
12. Google is very useful. Searching on a phone number or other info from an ad in Google can sometimes save you a lot of grief. Google Image Search is another very useful tool to search for other places where pictures in an ad are being used.
13. To help uncover ads that are using someone else pics Google Image Search and Tineye are useful tools. Much better to find out ahead of time that the girl you are thinking of calling is using the pics from some porn star or model or that the pics have been used in ads from one side of the country to the other.
14. Get an anonymous hobby email that is not through your work, school, or anything connected to your real life (yahoo, hotmail, gmail, etc.) and use it for all your hobby email activity and for nothing else. Be sure you include nothing that identifies who you really are when you create it.
15. Get a prepaid phone that you use for nothing else other than hobby phone calls and pay cash for it and whatever refill minutes you buy.
Getting established is not easy.
A provider needs to have *some* basis (Her Mileage May Vary) for being comfortable that you're: not LE, not Ted Bundy, not a robber, not a pimp or a pimp wannabe, not a rapist, not violent, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Those are only some of the occupational hazards our favorite kind of ladies are confronted with, just perhaps the most dire. Among established hobbyists, they also have to deal with time-wasters. I only hope I'm not one of them (and 2 years into it, I'm not even sure I'd be considered "established" yet). Yet their experience with time-wasters informs how likely they are to respond to an inquiry, which should also inform how you actually approach them on first contact. This is where reading the Newbie board can be most helpful. And I'm talking read the first 10 or 15 pages of posts. All good things come to those with the patience to find the thing they need to learn from others' experience. And yeah, that means a lot of wading through crap you already know. But the epiphany post is most likely to be found there.
Getting VIP early on would have saved me a lot of money. When just getting started, it would be useful to only try seeing providers that do whitelists. This is something that can be determined by reading the profiles of reviewers for a provider you're thinking of contacting. Below their list of reviews, will be a list of providers who have whitelisted him (or her, there are female mongers too). Not all providers will accept whitelistings only, but they can help in general when getting started, and in a pinch, once sort of established.
Read the ads on the Minnesota ad board - while not all ads will disclose a provider's newbie-friendliness, following her profile link to her P411 profile frequently will. Read her personal website - it will frequently disclose what information will be required for her to respond to a newbie. Expect no response if you're unwilling to "go there".
Once you do finally make full contact, when all is said & done, ask if you can use her as a reference. Then, write a review of your experience. By the time you've posted a few reviews, you'll have put enough of yourself out there for any provider to decide if she wants to see you or not.
Good luck
Thank you to both of you. I have been researching both with the newbie board and online. I have also taken most of the precautions that you and the previous post have mentioned. I guess I will have to bite the bullet and just go ahead with VIP. I honestly didn't think getting started with this would be as time consuming as it has turned out to be.
But, like it's been mentioned, we don't want to get involved with the wrong type.
Again, thank you for the advice
So you had appointments and backed out and your new. So some one stepped up and said I'll see you. Then you back out. Take the plunge or use your hand.
Quote: getting started with this would be as time consuming
REALLY ! Next time you have free time like 1.5 hrs walk in to any amp and get a massage to get your feet wet.
But, like it's been mentioned, we don't want to get involved with the wrong type.
Again, thank you for the advice
... be sure to heed the advice re verification sites. From my experience and what from opinions I've seen over the years on TER, P411 appears to be the best of the bunch, but there's others as well.
And as we've seen, vorlon's advice about needing a thick skin is pertinent as well.
I think Wong was right this post is fake as shit.So after getting all of this great advice I would expect a review of an established provider.See what happens there.
A provider needs to have *some* basis (Her Mileage May Vary) for being comfortable that you're: not LE, not Ted Bundy, not a robber, not a pimp or a pimp wannabe, not a rapist, not violent, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Those are only some of the occupational hazards our favorite kind of ladies are confronted with, just perhaps the most dire. Among established hobbyists, they also have to deal with time-wasters. I only hope I'm not one of them (and 2 years into it, I'm not even sure I'd be considered "established" yet). Yet their experience with time-wasters informs how likely they are to respond to an inquiry, which should also inform how you actually approach them on first contact. This is where reading the Newbie board can be most helpful. And I'm talking read the first 10 or 15 pages of posts. All good things come to those with the patience to find the thing they need to learn from others' experience. And yeah, that means a lot of wading through crap you already know. But the epiphany post is most likely to be found there.
Getting VIP early on would have saved me a lot of money. When just getting started, it would be useful to only try seeing providers that do whitelists. This is something that can be determined by reading the profiles of reviewers for a provider you're thinking of contacting. Below their list of reviews, will be a list of providers who have whitelisted him (or her, there are female mongers too). Not all providers will accept whitelistings only, but they can help in general when getting started, and in a pinch, once sort of established.
Read the ads on the Minnesota ad board - while not all ads will disclose a provider's newbie-friendliness, following her profile link to her P411 profile frequently will. Read her personal website - it will frequently disclose what information will be required for her to respond to a newbie. Expect no response if you're unwilling to "go there".
Once you do finally make full contact, when all is said & done, ask if you can use her as a reference. Then, write a review of your experience. By the time you've posted a few reviews, you'll have put enough of yourself out there for any provider to decide if she wants to see you or not.
Good luck.
I understand you're nervous to meet a provider for the first time. In my opinion, here is what you should (and should not) do:
1) get the VIP membership - not only will it help legitimize you, but it'll alleviate some anxiety about the provider you're willing to see.
2) pick a provider, and if you decide to schedule a date, have the date and time in mind and KEEP IT. If you're wishy washy about it, I'd assume you're just another guy from bp with whom I'd rather not waste my time.
3) please, please don't ask me if I'm a cop. Nothing infuriates me more. Not only does asking that question not work (I mean really, basic research), but I'M the one at more risk of arrest, bodily harm, or death, I'M the one with x amount of reviews essentially proving/legitimizing myself beyond reasonable doubt, I'M the one taking a risk by seeing YOU. Maybe other girls don't feel the same way, but I swear to christ if you ask me if I'm a cop, especially if you found me on TER, the phone hangs up and I go back to watching reruns of Law and Order.
Point is, be respectful of time, don't ask a million questions, get a VIP membership so you can read about the provider and don't have to ask a million questions, and understand that in my particular case, I (the provider) am taking a bigger risk on you than you are on me, despite what your nerves are telling you.
Good luck!
Thanks for giving your honest and unbridled opinion to a newb, Abbi. It's good to hear from the other side.
As for you, tbloid, just find a newbie-friendly provider and jump in. On my first time out, I was lucky enough to meet with a FBSM provider who shared a scheduler (who has been discussed ad nauseam in this forum) with others. It happened by accident, but it really helped me with screening later on.
And, did anyone mention "don't be a douche?" Respect goes a long way.
Add to that do not cancel.
The comunity is not that large that it is easy to burn bridges and easier as a newb/
Try the cock bait method.
-Get a bunch of hundred $$ bills
-Spread the bills around your cock
-Take picture
-Send to providers.
Not like 2 or 3 bills, at least 100 bills.
But, here I am once again. Wanting to make this happen, I have tried to make contact with a few that I like. And one of only does out call, which I don't prefer because I don't live in the area. I pass through occasionally for work..
Any advice would be helpful, besides becoming VIP. (Does that really make that big of a difference?
Also, if there are any younger (early to mid 20'September preferably) newbie friendly providers.... please let me know if you are willing to give a guy his first shot in this new hobby.
Use all $1 bills with a few $100 on top. It's all about strategic placement.
-Get a bunch of hundred $$ bills
-Spread the bills around your cock
-Take picture
-Send to providers.
Not like 2 or 3 bills, at least 100 bills.
But, here I am once again. Wanting to make this happen, I have tried to make contact with a few that I like. And one of only does out call, which I don't prefer because I don't live in the area. I pass through occasionally for work..
Any advice would be helpful, besides becoming VIP. (Does that really make that big of a difference?
Also, if there are any younger (early to mid 20'September preferably) newbie friendly providers.... please let me know if you are willing to give a guy his first shot in this new hobby.
LOL, just make sure the $1 don't show.
-Get a bunch of hundred $$ bills
-Spread the bills around your cock
-Take picture
-Send to providers.
Not like 2 or 3 bills, at least 100 bills.
But, here I am once again. Wanting to make this happen, I have tried to make contact with a few that I like. And one of only does out call, which I don't prefer because I don't live in the area. I pass through occasionally for work..
Any advice would be helpful, besides becoming VIP. (Does that really make that big of a difference?
Also, if there are any younger (early to mid 20'September preferably) newbie friendly providers.... please let me know if you are willing to give a guy his first shot in this new hobby.
Haha, I can personally say this would NEVER work for me - but if you want to roll money on your dick when we're together, by all means.
Thank you for all of the good advice. I just had my first adventure into this amazing new hobby. ( I will be writing a review soon). I wound up meeting with a very beautiful young woman who ended up being a complete sweetheart as well. I cannot thank you guys (and girls) for the advice, as well as convincing me to go VIP. I wouldn't have even thought to give her a call if I hadn't been able to both search better as well as read more about the reviews. Once again thanks to all. And to those who think I'm fake, I hope that you are as free with the kind words as you are with trying to knock someone down who's new to this.
I understand newbies need a starting point. But as a provider, of course we are nervous.
Some helpful tips
VIP will not make gals less weary, but it will help you find the right gal.
Higher end gals have better screening tools and tend to be better with newbs. If you can afford it, go big. Plus you want your first to be great. Find a girl with great reviews.
Provide as much as you can right off the bat. LinkedIn, ID with the address blocked, work info, a real phone number are all things that help. If a guy is being sketchy with his info because he doesn't trust me, then I don't trust him.
A girl with a long history and solid reputation is key. Not only will she give you a good reference going forward, but she will handle your information delicately and discreetly. Gals like us are not going to ruin their reputations by being careless with a client's personal info. Discretion is our job!
Just go for it. Do tour research. Ask for a phone call and just explain that you're nervous. You'll do fine 