Both are nothing new; the only difference this time was the number of casualties for what looks to be a "lone wolf" operation.
... all I can do is think about all those who lost loved ones and friends in the horror down South today.
I have been watching the news since this morning, just shocked over the attack and killings.
My heart goes out to those who where killed or injured, and to their loved ones as well.
As one commentator said, we shouldn't be shocked any longer -- as that implies the unexpected. Many of us have been expecting the next, and the next and the next.
Just curious, which thing shouldn't be considered unexpected?
Violence in the US by religious extremists, or violence against the LGBTQI community?
According to projects that document such incidents, about 20 LGBTQI are murdered every year in the US. My hunch is that that number is low, but it suggests that 300 have been murdered since 9/11. Many were committed by religious extremists - before last night, almost exclusively by Christian-identifying extremists.
We've already seen the next, and the next, and the next, ad infinitum. Violence against the LGBTQI communities in this country, that is. NOW it's supposed to be something we deplore, because the person doing the killing was familiar with the Koran rather than the Old Testament?
My fear is that the takeaway from all of this will be to act with hatred against Muslims, rather than to act against hatred itself.
Both are nothing new; the only difference this time was the number of casualties for what looks to be a "lone wolf" operation.
Violence by Islamists against ... whoever happens to be in their path. You know it is going to happen again soon. And again, and again.
Violence in the US by religious extremists, or violence against the LGBTQI community?
A heavily armed man was arrested who said he was on the way to a gay pride parade. No known connection to the first shooting at this time.
The gunman was a militant muslim with a hatred for gays, and was in contact with members of Isis. He could just as easily been a christian or orthodox jew. Religion is toxic and spreads all kinds of vile hate, and I want nothing to do with it. I'm not only an Antichrist, I'm also Anti-allah, Anti-yahweh, and basically Anti-deity of any persuasion. I will not pray for the people in this situation, but my thoughts are with them...and if this ever happens at the Gay 90's, I just hope I'm in a good position to take out the gunman.
Won't totally solve . But maybe take them out sooner. Yep have mine.
How many more mass killings do we need to have before Congress has the balls to act in a responsible way. Columbine, Aurora, SandyHook and on and on and on...now this tragedy. WTF!!!
The first clue someone doesn't know what they are talking about is when they mention "assault weapons" as if that means something.
No, the first clue someone doesn't know what they're talking about is when you blame Muslims.
If you folks want to argue about this, please take it there.
you know and I know you are right. So do a dozen dozen that read this board but won't pipe up.
I apologized because Vorlon is right this board is the wrong forum for this discussion. It's a sign of strength not weakness to admit when you're wrong.
and yet I can't get a single delegate to be local mod...;-( (that's frowny face for any hearing impared)
There is a death penalty for homosexual activities in at least 10 Islamic countries. Wake up.
You don't get it..anyone can get a weapon of mass destruction ( an assault weapon ) in this country. A terrorist on the no fly list is to dangerous to allow on a plane but he can legally purchase an assault weapon. Whether it's a Christian conservative shooting abortion providers or White supremacist shooting blacks at a church in So. Carolina or a sick kid killing 5 year olds at Sandyhook elementary school. Any sick fuck can legally buy an assault weapon in this country. We are the only country in civilized world where this is possible and it is no coincidence that we are the only country where week after week innocent people are dying from gun violence. What don't you get ? Wake up ? I wish I could wake up from this nightmare. But there are too many morons who want to perpetuate the fear and hatred that got us here. They think the problem is Islam..WTF!!
Yesterday 80 million US gun owners didn't kill anyone.
I think you are misunderstanding my post. The power syndicate is obvious. I was just trying to say...let admins tell someone to go to the politics board. You aren't MN board moderator so why try? Sheesh? Are you touchy or what?
The P&R board does have the virtue of keeping all the nastiness that involves political debate largely off the regional boards. Well, at least this one; I seldom look at the other ones. I think that is a good thing as we don't need any more unpleasantness than we already have. So, yes I am going to ask/suggest that when such debates start here that they take it to the P&R board. Obviously, just as is the case with any post anyone makes here, no one is under the obligation to pay it any heed.
where you will jump in as defacto mod on the local board (and hey I agree let's keep it about hobby) but when things get heated you are either:
1) absent
2) take the easy party line way out.
That is why this local discussion board is pretty cruddy at present time. I'm merely pointing out you as a board old head have influence. Use that pair God gave ya and advocate for something important other than topic police. It really, truly may help. No Wong snarkasm (nobody better shoplift that term as I just trademarked it) is either implied or intended here Vorlon.
1) Obviously, I have no control over when trainwrecks erupt on the board
2) Call if whatever you would like but I post what I think.
3) I believe any influence I have is largely because I think it is often wise to think about what I want to say before I actually post it rather than the first thing that pops into my head.
...one gun. It's hard to understand why someone wouldn't own at least one.
Data is by survey, so some room for error. But interestingly, twice as many Republicans own guns than do Democrats. So there is obviously a pansy-ass factor involved. Also I suspect generation-snowflake is afraid of them.
Where the fuck did you come up with that load of shit. You do realize that gun sales have gone through the roof since this moron entered the White House! Talk about a pansy ass factor. That clown has no friggin idea what the hell is going on anywhere in the world!
I'm afraid to search, NSA and Sam are watching...
It saddens me to no end thinking about the devastation these victims, their families & friends, & the entire community must be suffering. I just want to hop on a plane & hug everyone there.
There is a discussion on the Florida board. Perhaps we could chime in & let them know they are in our thoughts & available to support them?
Love & peace be with us all.
Leigh-Ann
I'd like that, too, Ms. Chayse.