So I am an African American man who doesn't see providers often because of life getting in the way. I had an atf but she retired recently. I have looked at a few ads recently and notice almost every as says no African American/black men.
Now, I understand about pimps and some other unruly behavior demonstrated by some black men, but I hate it affects the decent guys who occasionally are looking for a provider to share company with. For the women that have this policy, what can be done to change things.
Thanks
I do a light screening and the potential client, regardless of nationality or skin tone, must be a gentleman and have good references to back that up. As long as you're a stand up guy, treat ladies with respect, and are honest & upfront I'm sure you'll have much better luck with meeting a great lady with those same qualities. Happy hobbying!
Laney Luvs Ya!
I agree completely with Laney and feel the same way. I think there are plenty of other ladies in Minnesota that would agree.
Jillian
No, I'm not a provider but I am curious where you are finding so many ads saying no black men. Is it perchance a site whose initials are BP? If so, you might have more success in looking at providers who are fairly well reviewed on TER; I don't see the "no black men" restriction that much among that group.
When ho advertise no black, I don't care what your reasons are, that makes you a racist. In the history of mankind, white people killed more people than any other race? Yeah, let that sink in, now go suck more cocks
Many providers know too many people in a tight knit community and want to ensure they don't ever have them at their door.
Many asians won't see asian men for the same reason.
This is me trying to impart wisdom to you. Oh that you take it...
Imparting wisdom would require he realize that he does not know it all.
I am not prejudice when it comes to race, but I am when it comes to disrespectful, rude, and ignorant people. I have the choice to decide who I want to share my time and my body with and I would never ever see anyone with an attitude like yours.
Jillian
Perfect, and I too have chosen not pay $ to old chicks.
Jillian
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Somethings cannot be unseen.
Like some incalls I have trampled through. And the one provider with the skin condition that creeped me out so bad I had to flee (oh and yes she is still around and well reviewed - talk about YMMV!)
In P4P we guys and gals all see those things that Talon speaks of...those things that cannot be unseen.
(final thought - and this is a true story - the provider that ate half a package of my string cheese, boy she was evidently hungry and I was happy to oblige. The things you see...)
Vorls wouldn't know what to do with that much woman prob a pre spunk
Talon is just an unhappy little troll who is unable to post anything on this board without dissing someone ells, we wonder why providers don't want to participate in this forum .
He's just one guy. There's plenty of other threads that providers can comment on.
everyone is welcome to post here
My advice would be to re-establish your personal reputation with the providers that will see you. That's the best chance you have of opening other doors.
As far as changing society ... there really is nothing you can do about it. The water has been poisoned ... as demonstrated by Talon's rant here. It is no longer possible to discuss the subject.
HOWEVER, I've never even thought about it with black men. They are just men, of all different acclamations of culture in our society, as are most of us. Clearly, we have plenty of dumb ass white mother fuckers on this board to light up a stadium.
Perhaps you just be determined to do your part to change those stereotypes.
From a very deep thinker who also has these moments: Damn I love me some chocolate and coconut anything 
ooxx,
TL
First off, I'm white, and I'm not a provider. My regular girl is African American and she stipulates "no AA men" in her ad. I asked her about it and she said that the majority of AA men that showed up prior to this policy are either wannabe pimps or they want to trade (probably stolen) electronics or drugs. Her words not mine. One solution might be to be honest on initial contact like "hi, I'm an AA man but I have no interest in being your pimp or trading for your services". My girl says that would work with her. Just my $.02
While reading some hobbying board in the past, I read that advertisers will include this to show that the provider is not LE. This due to the naive belief that LE can't put anything discriminatory in an ad. This, of course, is a load of bull--about the same as the belief that LE can't lie when you ask if they are LEOs. Anyone who has ever watched a cop show--whether real or fictional--knows that they will say or do just about anything to get a person to confess to a crime or to accidentally spill the beans and show that they are guilty.
That's just what I read somewhere sometime in the kind of distant past. Take it as you will.
Clearly... there is absolutely positively no limitation whatsoever on what LE can say.
The best way to solve this as an AA man would be to see an upscale provider or two that will give you good references. However, this means that you will be limited to the P411 type of "upscale" providers going forward because most BP girls don't have time for reference checking, etc.
I ask every provider if they see black men and very few will, voluntarily. The reasons include: pimp wannabes, being very grabby or aggressive and generally being treated like a piece of meat, not a person. Also, the women I know that have been raped, have all been raped by AA men. This is a lot to overcome in a generalized world and I feel for you. Based upon what others here have said and the providers I spoke with, don't talk street, sound professional and behave during the session. Once the providers experience a positive session with you, they are likely to invite you back.
Someone I saw recently doesn't have an issue at all with AA men, but has had a very similar experience to Trinity's and will not ever entertain that demographic again.
The key is having a good track record of being a gentleman and honest. Obviously there are some that won't see you, and that's everywhere for various reasons. But I've found there are many more wonderful ladies that will see you.
Shaft1
that is a list of reviews and whitelists. An OG
There are plenty of providers who are race inclusive, disability inclusive, etc. I've never had an issue with AA clients, and I don't see individuals as representative of an entire group of people.