This is the sort of thinking that has produced the "Nordic model" of prostitution laws, which has recently also been adopted in France and Canada and which quite a few people are pushing to be adopted here in the U.S.  It's good in the sense that it no longer views women as criminals but it does so by putting all the blame on the men and essentially saying that any woman who does this is a victim and if she claims to be doing it of her own free will then she is mentally ill.  That last part is downright insulting to women IMHO.

That give me something like "double for half the price".  

Not talking about a McD's supersize drink for a $1 for the smart asses here.

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and you got a hell of a combo bro.

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I also deal with customers as Talon does that request discounts of various types. It's all part of business negotiations.

In silvertongue's restaurant analogy, one place I often frequent, they often give me free drinks, free food, etc. even though I've never asked just because I'm a good customer.

I think the issue here is in one case, the customer "asks for" discounts and it's an acceptable business practice. In the other, the customer is "offered" discounts to reward their loyalty.

I've noticed in this hobby that some ladies "reward" loyal customers in various ways while others never do.

Rip off asshole.

Yep ! and as far as all the crying and wailing, and then the R word is trotted out there as well.
IF the other side of the story has valid substance, Then Who Really has been Raped by the supposed event ?  

I know of a similar circumstance that occurred to a very good friend of mine, with whom I would not question his credibility for a second.
And Yep, this provider calls him up, crying and begging for a loan, cause her pimp BF needs his drugs, so my friend, against his better judgement, fronts her some $$
Well, you can guess the rest of the story, once she has $$ in hand, she disappears and does not answer the phone and so on.
Then about 8 months later, she contacts him, asking why he has not called her, to book some time, and so he books time with her, so that he can recover his $$, she shows up, and promptly questions, "Where is the donation ?" at which time he reminds her of the past outstanding loan, and so she defiantly gives him a quickie with an attitude, and tells him upon her exit from his location, To Never Contact Me Ever Again ! LOL  
Are you kidding me ! LOL  

BSC ! and so I advised him, that while she may be pretty and a good fuck, She is not worth the hassle, so find another provider, and One who is somewhat Sane ! LOL

These threads appear from time to time and it comes down to who each of us thinks is more credible.  For my part, I'd prefer to hear directly from the client.

and NOT the one the OP posted about.   Talon, please clarify.

First let me question something, You L C state, that it is possible that Talon is taking about a different individual altogether, as opposed to the OP. In the chronology of his post, in relation to the post that his reply follows, YOUR Post. So is Talon stating that YOU, the appalled one, stuck it to a client ? Or is he referring to the OP as the culprit ? LOL Confusing No?

As for Pimps, and predators, Yes Pimps are predatory, and so are other individuals not engaged in the pay for play world, They are known as sociopaths, pyscopaths, and other personality disordered people. Lets not forget to cover ALL the bases, in relation to abusers, liar, manipulators, thieves and BSC.
They are Everywhere, and it is not against the law for them to exist, It is when they cross the line
and do illegal acts, such as pimping, kidnapping, Murder. fraud, rape, and so on that finally offends society enough, to do something, or at least we hope that the powers that be, would do something.
However everyone else with an agenda, jumps on board with regard to the issue, and then pollutes
and further confuses the entire issue.
Such as the small hobby world, of consenting adults, paying for play, and having to find ways to side step the LE, because why? Because it is illegal to solicit for sex, and or pay for sex.
So Are You,  a BAD BAD individual L.C.  Are You a mentally ill, or criminal or both according to the women's advocacy groups or the civil and criminal justice system ? Do  you need get rescued from yourself, or your pimp /boyfriend. where they lock you away in a jail setting, or a mental institution, because You must be unstable and are a threat to society at large.  
That my dear, is what the Law and advocacy groups want everyone to think of males who pay for play. Where do we draw the line ? on what is acceptable ? and not ? this venue, or board exists as an support to help weed out the undesirable individuals, or at least identify them, then it is a see them at your own risk kind of advisory.
Sadly, the Dis ordered folks are able to manipulate things at times, and use this venue to further their enterprise, of abuse, personal gain, or general drama and confusion.  

And Here we are, yet again, trying to figure out, Who is the culprit in the latest round of Drama ?
What we know, is that one of the players, may be a sociopath, or pyscopath, or other disordered individual, But whom is the one who is hiding behind a false façade, and charming the pants off  
everyone, enough to be considered creditable ?

Okay, enough of as the world turns ! Everyone stay safe, and enjoy the weather, and go out and have sex !
We shall continue to sort out whom is a jack ass, or rob, or BSC as we process the evidence and examine the facts. Remember, Everyone is Innocent, at least until you Catch them, and that is their ( The dis ordered ones ) game.

Its sort of funny that always comes up when i tell someone i dont want a relationship outside of what i do. Dig up personal info and assume I have a pimp because it helps them sleep better at night thinking the only reason I'm not interested is because my pimp wont let me. Its hardly original.

Again, using back page last year really hurt me with questionable clients. I'm interested in discreet fun not finding partner or making relationships. If it happens it happens but thats my choice and odds aren't good.  

I think most that know me know that I am not being trafficked. I have a good time doing what I do by choice and that should be obvious.

My intentions in posting this were to warn others. It is a violating feeling. I dont post enough to post on provider only board.. It wasn't to purport an image of innocence. I have made mistakes. And maybe I deserved it.

And I would love it to be karma because if thats the case I shouldnt have to deal with shit like this again.

Ps talon, dns meaning do not see list. Know u were wondering

The person I know is LOADED, we share a garage at http://automotorplex.com/ and "cheapest" car we have in the garage is $100k.  Not trying to brag about him/us, just letting you know that he's not 'cheap' and would never try to get anything free from anyone. I'm 100% certain, that he would never arrived w/zero $, as for 45 minutes late(maybe?). I asked him about the one time he had to run to ATM, and he told me you needed more  $ than the normal fee.  He felt bad because you were crying and need the $ that day, so he went to the ATM and got you the extra $(and never did asked for anything in return for that $)

Here are some of the things he has told me. He fixed your squeaky door, tried to help you with your broken stove and he also told me would have paid for your tuition if you went back to school, etc.  He also told me he was willing to pay for all your legal obligations that were outstanding and asked you numerous time to add them up and give me the total.  For whatever reason, you never gave him the information.    

Again talon is referring to a seperate person/ situation that happened a year ago before i had reviews or even knew what ter was.

 Ive responded 3 times on this 2nd subject, far more than i even should have. I feel like airing the details of this is worse than the situation itself for the 2nd person in question. He didnt ask for this and doesnt deserve this. Hes actually super nice and cool, its unfortunate that we had such a miscommunication

My intention in making this thread was  
1 warn girls about him
2 remind providers that just because youve met dont let guard down (i see many threads of where guys dont like being asked for $ and like to pay after when they know them. I know it makes it more personal, being trusted, but thats a quick way for otherwise honest people to get ideas or make a shitheads job easy of ripping you off)
3 yes probably venting a bit. Feels shitty knowing hes walking out of your incall, still smiling and in a great mood after release having no regard for what he did.  

Not to look innocent or demonize anyone. Unless the 2nd person in question wants to get involved and clear up any of this im done responding to these. Its truly not fair to him unless he feels its relevant and he wants to say it.