Now to be honest, I don't take them to McDonalds but I really don't go to McDonalds. But the Olive Garden and the Cheesecake Factory? Sure, why not?
But I am one of those odd gents that doesn't pay to watch a gal eat. I'll pick up the check and I'll ask them if they want to join me, but no need to pay to watch them eat. Many here will pay to do so, and that's fine for them. It's their money. I don't tell people how to hobby. But I do tell them what is possible in the hobby. Viva la difference!There's a thread on one of the local boards about guys asking
providers for rates lower than their published amounts.
I'm sure it happens frequently. I've never done it, and honestly
can't see myself ever doing it. I could see and understand a provider offering
a limited 'special' or maybe a 'deal' for a regular who she enjoys
spending time with. But isn't it presumptuous for a monger to ask
for a lower rate? What I receive from some of
these ladies is so beyond "services" that I'm more than happy
to pay what they ask. But I think it's rude, arrogant, and disrespectful to request
a lower rate. Not everything is negotiable imo. Maybe it's part of the game
and I'm just old fashioned.
I honestly think guys do it to get a rise out of the girls and would do it and ask no matter what the providers rate is. if she says yes,or no they have no intentions of following through with the appointment. Another reason I love my mature gents I find this usually doesn't happen with my guys age 50+ policy. When it does every once in awhile it tends to suck all my good energy leaving me unhappy and having to get ready for an appointment with a deserving gentleman who should have 100% of my attention. I'm good about disconnecting and not engaging in situations I don't want to be in there's 'block' 'spam' 'ignore this user' it's pretty easy to make clients or providers disappear when you've e had enough.
Totally agree with the 50+ issue. Most my regulars are 50+ and they are so respectful!
with LOTS of snow and ice. Did we see the same post, lol?
Steph xoxo
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If it is part of the game, I choose not to play. Let's set the "business" aside for a moment. You are asking a nice looking lady out for dinner and, hopefully a good time afterwards. Here is your pickup line. "I know you like that nice French restaurant, but well, you really aren't worth the tab, so we are going to McDonalds." Think you'll get laid?
Now to be honest, I don't take them to McDonalds but I really don't go to McDonalds. But the Olive Garden and the Cheesecake Factory? Sure, why not?
But I am one of those odd gents that doesn't pay to watch a gal eat. I'll pick up the check and I'll ask them if they want to join me, but no need to pay to watch them eat.
Many here will pay to do so, and that's fine for them. It's their money. I don't tell people how to hobby. But I do tell them what is possible in the hobby.
Viva la difference!
...I had dinner the other night at Nove Italiano at the top of the Palms in Vegas. I didn't try to negotiate the price of dinner to what I would have paid at the Olive Garden.
You, my friend, want to see Nove Italiano quality providers but you only want to pay Olive Garden quality provider prices. You should stick to the quality of providers and restaurants you can afford.
IDK about anyone else, but most people know I know how to complain haha. I have no complaints about anyone I actually see nowadays. ☺️
I'm not sure if it's appropriate to publicly say, but you are part of the crew that has taught me and reinforced that there are wonderful men out there who are sexy, fun, and appreciate the right things.
#truestory
is when the lady's online info is unclear. Like does she offer any discount for the second hour, or is the special she was advertising still available. I would be horribly embarrassed to make a mistake in the contents of the envelope. Otherwise, I think it's very bad form to ask for a discount. On the other hand, I have been offered a discount under special circumstances such as when a lady had to cancel on me last minute and offered to "make it up to me". Those discounts are always appreciated.
It's just flat out degrading to ask. If the rate is not something anyone is comfortable with, find someone whose rates are your fit. This is not an activity that should include bargaining.
that's my 2 cent
This is NOT the type of service you ask for a discount on.....simply said-if you can't pay the amount stated....move on! Totally Non Negotiable and all should know that !
I'd like to copy and paste the whole conversation here onto the Chicago thread.
It's a never ending battle. The true audience are the guys who look and see, "Oh. There's a lady who doesn't waste their energy on entitled people, giving them discounts. More energy for me!"
lol. 
Surely the discount maven will appear sooner or later.
He does have alot to say about discounts.
Yes I find it rude to ask for a discount.Now if she is offering an incentive that is a different story.
In some areas the provider's rate is already very reasonable so to ask for more of a discount is just bad form.
I had a gent ask me for 100 discount off of my 90min rate and he had a whole list of things he was expecting.I declined to see him asking for a discount and then a list of fantasies is a bit much.
Funny the next year he contacted me did not ask for a discount but while looking on his P411 profile he saw someone in my area whose rates were way higher than mine.Maybe she took advantage of his response of a discount or perhaps he never mentioned that to her.I just thought it was odd and a bit of a turn-off.
I'd be happy to discuss discounts or negotitating to anyone who has the ability to think outside the box. Many ways to do so. Most girls love giving them, some don't.
Lots of ways to play this game, the gals know it, and partake in it and benefit by it every day.
Not sure why anyone here would think a gal or a guy shouldn't involve themselves in something that can be mutually beneficial but they are entitled to their own opinions
Is they don't see the problem with what they're doing. They're already entitled to special benefits that really should be aimed privately toward faithful customers. And when I say faithful, I mean guys who keep paying full rate over and over again, many times. And are nice to you, talk nice about you, and are gentlemen.
These guys who think that because they have almost 400 reviews seeing people other than me gives them the right to have a discount, because "all the other girls do it" is foreign to me. That's like going into McDonald's asking for a discount because you've been very faithful to Burger King. LOL.
...That a provider in the Denver area ran some years ago. I assume she was trying to build up her clientele. She did not offer any discounts, but she offered the 12th date free! An interesting carrot on a long but measurable stick. I always wondered how that worked out for her. I thought it was a clever idea that may well have resulted in more business and wound up costing her very little
It's really pathetic if someone in our age group is asking for a discount..what would we be asking for the senior citizen's or AARP discount? Damn it's an insult to the provider and should be an insult to the client.
providers for rates lower than their published amounts.
I'm sure it happens frequently. I've never done it, and honestly
can't see myself ever doing it. I could see and understand a provider offering
a limited 'special' or maybe a 'deal' for a regular who she enjoys
spending time with. But isn't it presumptuous for a monger to ask
for a lower rate? What I receive from some of
these ladies is so beyond "services" that I'm more than happy
to pay what they ask. But I think it's rude, arrogant, and disrespectful to request
a lower rate. Not everything is negotiable imo. Maybe it's part of the game
and I'm just old fashioned.
Thank you!! We appreciate guys like you very much! xo
I personally never haggle over my advertised rates. If a guy tries that, then it ends the conversation very quickly. What I am willing to talk about is longer term, regular arrangements. Frequent travel, etc. That I think is perfectly acceptable to bring up.
You are the type all gentlemen crave....thank you. Perhaps our paths must cross...
What I am willing to talk about is longer term, regular arrangements. Frequent travel, etc. That I think is perfectly acceptable to bring up.
was thrilled when a new client, also, disabled, approached me for a session. Really hapy to work with a comrade--he s prominent and has a high position at an advocacy agency. Then, he asked me for a discount and it was so especially hurtful, coming from him.
I just recently lowered my rates. Used to be $400 and I lowered them to $300. I would get the typical guys asking me for a discount and everyone in my area knows who they are. I'd advertise a special and the same guys would take me up on it and never see me at my full rate. So I solved it. Lower my rates, no specials for anyone. Regulars may get a lunch or dinner OTC, or a little extra time, but they usually buy me gifts or make up for it with a great tip! My philosophy in life is you can't get what you don't ask for. Some ladies will be offended and some won't. But it never hurts to ask. But don't be a douche about it, be respectful.
I'm just recently back in the game and as a mature provider I love you old farts! Oh wait......
I am an old fart...lol!
Have a great evening.
Xoxo
Eclipse
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Hi MammaE
Not many ladies lower their rates....as a matter of fact, I've never encountered this!
Noticed your from my city...have not seen your ads before. Maybe this is the time!!
I've seen it once or twice before. But usually because the lady changes her menu. I think I'm priced just right for San Diego and for what I offer. (I just updated my profile.)
I haven't advertised in a few years. I'm just getting back into the swing of things
I have never asked for a discount and really don't like to even speak about rates. I appreciate a special once in awhile when they are posted clearly but never look to negotiate a providers rate. I have people ask for discounts on the goods and services I provide all the time. I don't get insulted I just know they want what I have and are trying to reconcile giving up their money. I'm sure all of you all inquire for discounts while purchasing goods or services. Cheap people can get very
annoying and we all have them in our lives one way or another. Just nothing to be insulted about its just who they are and you get the satisfaction of saying no or charging them more. You have all the power
Then I move on. Why take the chance of meeting someone who'll view you as a cheap fuck. Ask her and see if YMMV with her. That BBBJ that she's known for is all of sudden is a CBJ for a couple of minutes, oh and that DFK is now a LFK...Shit why chance it. I want everyone relaxed and not have some inside hostility toward me. But there's a few guys that actually brag on how they negotiate and have never paid full price. It's a badge of honor for these guys. This "hobby" isn't for everyone.
what i have done, and i have no problem with, if a lady's rate card doesn't' mention the specific time allotment i am looking for, is to suggest what i consider an equitable price for a certain time frame. usually it works. one time recently it didn't because the lady had different touring rates than her home town rates, of which i was unaware
I have never asked for a discount nor will I ever. I would be too embarrassed.However being older and on a fixed income I have a certain amount that I won't go over. Not by choice but by circumtances. One time I emailed a touring provider who I wanted to see but her rates weren't listed.I emailed her and asked for her rates.She got back to me promptly with her rates and I realized she was out of my league. I e-mailed her back, thanking her for her quick response, advised her that I would not be able to see her. I wished her well and thanked her again. She emailed me back, said she appreciated the fact that I got back to her , that most guys wouldn't bother and would just leave her hanging.Said she would email me again when she was back in town and would offer me a discount for being such a gentleman. I thought that was a classy thing to do. I guess what im saying is , good things can happen when you act like a gentleman with a little courtesy and respect for the ladies .
providers for rates lower than their published amounts.
I'm sure it happens frequently. I've never done it, and honestly
can't see myself ever doing it. I could see and understand a provider offering
a limited 'special' or maybe a 'deal' for a regular who she enjoys
spending time with. But isn't it presumptuous for a monger to ask
for a lower rate? What I receive from some of
these ladies is so beyond "services" that I'm more than happy
to pay what they ask. But I think it's rude, arrogant, and disrespectful to request
a lower rate. Not everything is negotiable imo. Maybe it's part of the game
and I'm just old fashioned.
I cut deals. I make offers. The gals counter offer or take my initial offer or they don't repsond. All good.
Adults can do amazing things when two people bargain in good faith towards a win/win negotiation.
It is stunning how many gals don't think I'm "rude" or "arrogant" or "disrespectful." Few people do when I am lining their pockets with cash. Just common sense really.
Many think having 75% of a large number is better than 100% of nothing.
But you are correct about one thing.
It does happen frequently. 
...feel the need to negotiate? Is it because you're a cheap asshole or you want to have a feeling of power over the women. Do you love it when it's the end of the month and their backs are against the wall because they have to make the rent? Does that make your orgasm extra good? Or are you really only capable of getting an orgasm when you jerk off while thinking of how much you saved negotiating a provider's price?
Unlike you, I really am rich. I got that way by being cheap as fuck in many ways. I've saved hundreds of thousands of dollars in business transactions and tens of thousands of dollars on acquisitions. But one thing I won't negotiate is the price of a human being. Unless a provider is an eccentric millionaire, I'm sure my net worth is more than 99.999999999999% of all providers. I won't miss the extra few hundred dollars that you try to negotiate. And if I think the price being asked isn't worth the value to be received, I'll simply move on to another provider that I determine to be worth the asking price.
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Like Trump you're an asshole ,taking pride in ripping off people by taking money earned by the worker. I'm glad workers are finally wise to people like you thivery. Tom