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Snidleywhiplash 2 Reviews 314 reads
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And STFU.     Haha.   Happy valentines Day.

TalonTed4140 reads

1- Don't use fake or old pictures from when you were 18/19/20.  We will rip you on the reviews-> less customers.
2- Listen to your customers, aka cash boss.
3- A little make up goes a long way.
4- Shower between customers.
5- Let the customer dictate the conversions. Most guys just wants to fuck, pay, leave or pay, fuck, leave and we do not want to hear your stories about how hard your life was and you had to turn to tricks to make a living.

6- More kissing and bbbj will definitely have more repeat clients.

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belindabell1194 reads

1.  Send an email complete with a small introduction, screening information, and references.
One-Liner emails are most likely to be ignored as are those without so much as a first name.
An example of what NOT to send:  "Hay, u avail now"

2.  Be freshly showered (i.e. at least wipe your ass -- brown streaks in the underwear is simply not appealing)

3.  Be shaved but keep in mind, fresh stubble is going to hurt a ladies tender parts)  OUCH!

4.  Be respectful in correspondence and in person

5.  Don't be gossippy -- most providers do not really care what SusieQ did last week, where she lives, her private phone number, how many clients she sees, what she had for wine, etc etc etc.  You should be talking about the lady you are with NOW not the lady you were with last week.

6.  Mostly, follow her rules and don't push boundaries.
 

Have a super wonderful weekend!!!

Belind

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jillianthemilf1302 reads

I rarely post, but I have been reading your stupid comments for so long, I just can't take it anymore.  Didn't your Mother teach you that you should treat people the way you would like them to treat you? I think the ladies you see are treating you far better than you are treating them. You need to grow up and have some class. It still amazes me that anyone is willing to spend time with you. I think the only ladies that see you are the ones that don't read the discussion board.

Jillian

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OldTimerB969 reads

Jillian,

While you certainly have some very good points, isn't it a little hypocritical for you to be calling him names?  

Even if it might be true, no need to imitate, right! A pig, a ho, you're both being disrespectful IMO.

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belindabell831 reads

It is every single day, sometimes, multiple times a day, that providers read on this hobby board how the men here really see them and what they really think of them.  In all honesty, most guys here are wonderful and kind. But, there are a handful who continually say insulting, mean-spirited and hurtful things to and about providers.  The providers that I know personally and have met are smart, educated, sexy, beautiful, heart warming, tender women.  Women who have big, compassionate hearts.  Hearing the same old nasty comments by a few guys wears on us.  Jillian is human.  I am human.  Providers are human.   We feel.  In all honesty, we have to feel in order to do what we do.  

Someone once told me,  it's not so much what you say but how you say it that matters.

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elanmontage756 reads

Truly, not all men deserve the title of a gentleman.  Some of them even deserve to be called a spade when they are a spade.  

 
As far as giving a gift to a provider: the truth is that life is short and the body is a temple.  What you want to offer as a gift can be as little or as much as you feel your temple worship mood inspires.  In a cult some hand over all of their belongings and property as at the time of the real death, not the little death, but in our final hour we hand it all over or it is taken, depending on perspective.  Our time in our little deaths, I feel both the provider and the client are at their best when they perceive in truth that in our short lives our bodies are temples and deserve the deepest of respect in whatever form of worship is appropriate in the moment and celebrate in kind; so, make offerings of service or offerings of coin, but do make a beautiful offering as this is a beautiful place, a beautiful palace.  

 

 



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arunee489 reads

Elan, you are always the class of acts and the Belle of the ball.  You're fantastic!  Happy Valentines Day, my Dear.

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Wongbater646 reads

Clients are human and providers are human.  We all get fed up with things that irritate us and respond in our own ways.  

I understand and appreciate the providers comments and your comments, as always, Belinda.  I want to offer a couple of other points to consider from a client's perspective.

Personally, I get where Talon is coming from on some of his posts.  I get the feeling of frustration, disappointment, and outrage he's expressing at what he encounters as an active guy on the local scene in parts of the scene that not all of the people on the board regularly dive into.  I get into some of those areas too...the TOFTT forays into hobby land.  What keeps me checking out Talon's posts are what I can learn by reading between the lines.  It's info to me and I chalk up the outrageous to his personality and leave it there.  I don't delve into AMP/Asian agencies.  Just not my thing but I still file away all the info that I have gleaned from his posts over time about that world, just in case.  I'd rather he be on the board sharing his exploits than not.  His way of expressing himself I don't always like but to each is own.  I can also see how providers just get sick of hearing from him but understand some on the board may see it differently.

Regarding my own verbal sparring with certain providers in the past I have both opened up dialogue with some and will continue to push back on others.  I have been around in the hobby long enough to see bullshit for what it is in both clients and providers when the posts show up.  There are some things I can't not respond to.  I think that is important on the board.  The board has huge potential for manipulation and infiltration by LEO.  Over the last, let's say two years, I have gotten into it with a couple providers I still feel deserve everything I said because they were absolutely 100% full of it and I knew it for sure.  A couple others I regret because when it comes down to it those battles didn't need to be waged.  Same goes for clients on here.  I still think many of them suck but I wouldn't want them to go away because, again, I listen and mentally file away everything for my own personal use to keep me on top of my game.  Knowledge is power, knowledge is built by information, information is either moderated or discouraged on the board in the last few years.  That's why I said previously this is an adult board.  Act like adults and either kiss ass or battle.  That's what I have learned from being a corporate whore myself.

Lastly, I'm of the opinion that a lot of providers are lurking watching, listening like a lot of clients are.  But I feel it's more about her or his own PERSONAL reasons why they don't participate until Talon posts pull them out.  It's not exclusively bad boys being bad that has caused the degeneration of the board.  I've been lumped in with Talon already as a top 5 board trouble maker when in all honesty ask any provider I have ever met in my life and 99% of them would say I am above all else a model of respectfulness and a decent person to spend an hour with.  The other 1% ripped me off so fuck 'em. ;-)  What I say on the board is what I think and what I do.  Totally the same guy that shows up for an appointment but I have my personality on this board too, for my own reasons.  Again, don't like me and don't want to be informed...click that ignore button...click it!

Wanted to clear my own air and give some thoughts for others to think and comment about.  Agree, disagree, ignore, and troll away...

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Snidleywhiplash343 reads

Posted By: Wongbater
Clients are human and providers are human.  We all get fed up with things that irritate us and respond in our own ways.    
   
 I understand and appreciate the providers comments and your comments, as always, Belinda.  I want to offer a couple of other points to consider from a client's perspective.  
   
 Personally, I get where Talon is coming from on some of his posts.  I get the feeling of frustration, disappointment, and outrage he's expressing at what he encounters as an active guy on the local scene in parts of the scene that not all of the people on the board regularly dive into.  I get into some of those areas too...the TOFTT forays into hobby land.  What keeps me checking out Talon's posts are what I can learn by reading between the lines.  It's info to me and I chalk up the outrageous to his personality and leave it there.  I don't delve into AMP/Asian agencies.  Just not my thing but I still file away all the info that I have gleaned from his posts over time about that world, just in case.  I'd rather he be on the board sharing his exploits than not.  His way of expressing himself I don't always like but to each is own.  I can also see how providers just get sick of hearing from him but understand some on the board may see it differently.  
   
 Regarding my own verbal sparring with certain providers in the past I have both opened up dialogue with some and will continue to push back on others.  I have been around in the hobby long enough to see bullshit for what it is in both clients and providers when the posts show up.  There are some things I can't not respond to.  I think that is important on the board.  The board has huge potential for manipulation and infiltration by LEO.  Over the last, let's say two years, I have gotten into it with a couple providers I still feel deserve everything I said because they were absolutely 100% full of it and I knew it for sure.  A couple others I regret because when it comes down to it those battles didn't need to be waged.  Same goes for clients on here.  I still think many of them suck but I wouldn't want them to go away because, again, I listen and mentally file away everything for my own personal use to keep me on top of my game.  Knowledge is power, knowledge is built by information, information is either moderated or discouraged on the board in the last few years.  That's why I said previously this is an adult board.  Act like adults and either kiss ass or battle.  That's what I have learned from being a corporate whore myself.  
   
 Lastly, I'm of the opinion that a lot of providers are lurking watching, listening like a lot of clients are.  But I feel it's more about her or his own PERSONAL reasons why they don't participate until Talon posts pull them out.  It's not exclusively bad boys being bad that has caused the degeneration of the board.  I've been lumped in with Talon already as a top 5 board trouble maker when in all honesty ask any provider I have ever met in my life and 99% of them would say I am above all else a model of respectfulness and a decent person to spend an hour with.  The other 1% ripped me off so fuck 'em. ;-)  What I say on the board is what I think and what I do.  Totally the same guy that shows up for an appointment but I have my personality on this board too, for my own reasons.  Again, don't like me and don't want to be informed...click that ignore button...click it!  
   
 Wanted to clear my own air and give some thoughts for others to think and comment about.  Agree, disagree, ignore, and troll away...

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Snidleywhiplash305 reads

Yada yada yada.

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Wongbater305 reads

very telling you chose the troll option...

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Snidleywhiplash315 reads

And STFU.     Haha.   Happy valentines Day.

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Wongbater337 reads

silence not gonna happen.  so sorry

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jchan113286 reads

Two people (talon &wong) fighting for relevance in a fantasy world. One is 'me, me, me, me. Enough about me let's talk about you. What do you think about me?' and the other is 'me, me, me, me. Enough about me, let me tell you what I think of you'.  
 
The 'ignore' selection has spared me much of what Wong writes since I find too much of it personal attacks and name calling. That's not sharing ideas or information, it's just mean, does service to no one and shuts down contribution. Having said that, his post was really good minus the parts where he feels it necessary to defend or justify himself.

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Wongbater276 reads

and you would disagree chan.  If you "actually" took my suggestion and hit the ignore button you wouldn't have any idea what I've been posting and both you and I could go forth and have happy lives.  But...here you are again.  When you respond personally yes I will give you my opinion back - always.  Just by posting a response I see that you can't just ignore because you just can't stop clicking that link to see what I have to say.  Just by responding you give me legitimacy even when you try so hard not too....thanks buddy!

From a guy that reiterates over and over that he is above being a client (morality reasons) you sure do have a lot of nerve saying I don't share ideas or information.  You are many things but I will sum it up with one word ---- misguided.  Take a look at my posts.  Talk to some other clients locally (oh wait you don't have VIP and don't want it blah blah blah).  I actively hobby, network, and the like.  I actually have an idea of what both clients and providers are saying, doing, the good things locally and the challenges.  You are sadly mistaken to believe any of my posts get down to some of the vulgar things being said by others on the board within the last week even.  Give me a break...defend and justify myself, yeah you are right I'm done with that.  I'm not going anywhere so I suppose we can rehash this again and again and again until you hit that ignore button finally.

From an actual participant in the hobby to a guy that for some reason feels the need to visit the board...my parting thought is you have some balls to even compare what I have shared vs what you have shared.  There is no comparison.  For all of you that agree...let's chat further.  For all of you that don't agree...let's chat further.  For all of you that because you see the handle "Wongbater" feel the need to get outraged before you even read the post...please hit the ignore button.  Thanks for listening!!

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vorlon352 reads

Posted By: Wongbater
Clients are human and providers are human.  We all get fed up with things that irritate us and respond in our own ways.    
   
 I understand and appreciate the providers comments and your comments, as always, Belinda.  I want to offer a couple of other points to consider from a client's perspective.  
   
 Personally, I get where Talon is coming from on some of his posts.  I get the feeling of frustration, disappointment, and outrage he's expressing at what he encounters as an active guy on the local scene in parts of the scene that not all of the people on the board regularly dive into.  I get into some of those areas too...the TOFTT forays into hobby land.  What keeps me checking out Talon's posts are what I can learn by reading between the lines.  It's info to me and I chalk up the outrageous to his personality and leave it there.  I don't delve into AMP/Asian agencies.  Just not my thing but I still file away all the info that I have gleaned from his posts over time about that world, just in case.  I'd rather he be on the board sharing his exploits than not.  His way of expressing himself I don't always like but to each is own.  I can also see how providers just get sick of hearing from him but understand some on the board may see it differently.
Talon's hobbying strategy reminds of the following which has been attributed to Einstein:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
But he never learns; he just comes on here and bitches about it and in the process does so in a way that pisses a lot of people off.  He's been told multiple times exactly why what he does is so annoying but it makes no difference to him.  Whether he's clueless, just doesn't care, or is one of those who enjoys getting a rise out of people is not clear and may well be some combination of all three.  He's not the worst troll I have seen but I definitely regard him as a negative influence on the board.
   
Posted By: Wongbater
Regarding my own verbal sparring with certain providers in the past I have both opened up dialogue with some and will continue to push back on others.  I have been around in the hobby long enough to see bullshit for what it is in both clients and providers when the posts show up.  There are some things I can't not respond to.  I think that is important on the board.  The board has huge potential for manipulation and infiltration by LEO.  Over the last, let's say two years, I have gotten into it with a couple providers I still feel deserve everything I said because they were absolutely 100% full of it and I knew it for sure.  A couple others I regret because when it comes down to it those battles didn't need to be waged.  Same goes for clients on here.  I still think many of them suck but I wouldn't want them to go away because, again, I listen and mentally file away everything for my own personal use to keep me on top of my game.  Knowledge is power, knowledge is built by information, information is either moderated or discouraged on the board in the last few years.  That's why I said previously this is an adult board.  Act like adults and either kiss ass or battle.  That's what I have learned from being a corporate whore myself.
That LE can get on the board should surprise no one.  It's easy to get on TER and I frankly would be shocked if they aren't.  As far as manipulation goes, well if I were them one strategy I would follow would be to sow misinformation and mistrust among the membership and in doing so make it more likely people will end up making the sort of mistakes that end up with an unpleasant encounter with LE.  
   
Posted By: Wongbater
Lastly, I'm of the opinion that a lot of providers are lurking watching, listening like a lot of clients are.  But I feel it's more about her or his own PERSONAL reasons why they don't participate until Talon posts pull them out.  It's not exclusively bad boys being bad that has caused the degeneration of the board.  I've been lumped in with Talon already as a top 5 board trouble maker when in all honesty ask any provider I have ever met in my life and 99% of them would say I am above all else a model of respectfulness and a decent person to spend an hour with.  The other 1% ripped me off so fuck 'em. ;-)  What I say on the board is what I think and what I do.  Totally the same guy that shows up for an appointment but I have my personality on this board too, for my own reasons.  Again, don't like me and don't want to be informed...click that ignore button...click it!

 Wanted to clear my own air and give some thoughts for others to think and comment about.  Agree, disagree, ignore, and troll away...

Behaving well when actually seeing a provider does not automatically equate to behaving well on the board or vice-versa.  As I recall, you posted around the beginning of the year of your desire to "turn over a new leaf" so to speak.  Yet in my view lately you have increasingly gone back to being overly argumentative and quick to take offense

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Wongbater292 reads

The Talon topic...get over it people.  Vorlon have you even bothered to talk to the guy?  I have.  Early on I sent him some info about who robbed him.  Wow...what a nice thing to do so he could get some closure or do whatever he wanted to do with the info...I've talked to him over time.  Not regularly (Talon please chime in) and increasingly little as of the last maybe 9 months.  Talon PM'd me today and I answered.  I have what I consider friends on the board and in hobby life and I have what I call people I will respond to and yes Talon is one.  I've posted my reason why.  End of my thoughts on Talon.  He is the sum of what you think Vorlon from my experience talking with him.  But...you and the majority are WEAK for not interacting with him.  I say idiots but you will all respond with your opinions which I find funny....

So you and others find it important to try to dissect the mental personality of others?  what business is that of yours?  yeah I get opinions formed about a lot of you too.  BUT...I also circle around and meet alot of the providers in our local scene besides just being a board mouth.  Providers, open up your opinions and tell us all why you are pissed...it's because business is shit!  How does that come back to the discussion board?  How does that come back to Wong?  The business is shit because....well we can talk about that later.

Regarding LE and board manipulation...it's about time a guy like you even acknowledges that Vorlon.  LE is still surprisingly funny to pick out with all their ISO and links to the ads that make you want to barf.  But since you referenced the thought let's talk more about board manipulation.  LE is the most important enemy but you should also understand there are others in the community that need to be called out.  THAT is why i continue to engage you all.  

Lastly Vorlon I have turned over a new leaf.  Wanna know why?  I'm giving little to no reason why I can be banned anymore.  Your beloved board is a place of subtle nuances...the 2016 crabby pants bunch like yourselves get to post away...the rest of us get to continue as we do trying to not quite say it but say it.  Ah well I have a couple years experience understanding how to dumb down the message while still getting it out there.  BTW...still not having a problem getting a date...got to get on my way as she's on her way...Happy V Day lovers and detractors

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vorlon270 reads

No, I have not bothered to talk to him.  I have no reason to do so because I have nothing to say to him beyond what I have posted here.  That could always change at some point but I see no point to it at present.

I form opinions on the "mental personality" of a good many people on this board and others.  The data I collect based on the reviews, posts, and any other interactions I have with someone are what I use to decide how credible I consider someone.  How accurate is the data?  Hard to say, given we all have a vested interest in privacy.  But I do the best I can with what I've got.  And I don't think that is really any different from what you do or a lot of other people on here do.

As far as LE goes, it may be the first time you have read a post of mine regarding LE but it is far from the first time I have posted an opinion on LE presence on TER and why people should be mindful of it.  As far as the actions of other go, unless you are willing to be more specific, it's hard to have much of a conversation about it.  For my part, there are few that I have met in my years doing this where matters have progressed to the point where I have some degree of trust in them.

What's the point of repeating that you are still not having a problem getting a date?  There are plenty of providers who don't care what you say here (assuming they pay any attention to this board at all) so long as your behavior as a client is good.

Lastly, what's the point of tossing phrases like "idiots" and "crabby pants" into your post?  I'm sure you know that most people will get annoyed by being referred to as such yet this is far from the first time you have done this sort of thing.  It makes me wonder if you do so deliberately in order to see what reaction get.

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Wongbater252 reads

yet jchan says we shouldn't respond to every thread...better watch out buddy!  

The only comment of yours that I want to respond to goes like this...if I say idiot or crabby pants it's part of my overall post.  Don't take it out of context Vorlon.  If you or anyone's weak sensibilities gets weepy at the terms idiot or crabby pants then maybe TER should check ID at the doors more closely.

Have you read the poo (insert your own vulgar word of choice instead) that plenty of other people PM me, post about me, etc...it includes alot more adult language than I use in my posts lately.  Pot shots taken over here Vorlon but I'm a big boy and can actually deal with a 4 letter word.

What I find interesting is those pot shot posts toward me are not taken down due to the admins saying it's "rude, troublemaking...blah blah blah", um...no.  Again, I see the double standard and I'm big enough to just deal with it.  I know exactly who and where it comes from.

So am I to understand by decree of the board elite, like yourself Vorlon, that now we shouldn't say "idiot" or "crabby pants"?  I PURPOSELY use terms that an average ADULT should be able to handle reading.  I had some other colorful words I would have rather used in that particular post but, again, I dumb it down for publication.  Enjoying your board censorship yet Vorlon?

Lastly, and most importantly...you make the accusation, and yes I mean that term - accusation, that I deliberately try to get a reaction by what I post.  Not recently son.  Yet, you and others like jchan should take a look in the mirror.  You know I'm not a punk...I'll respond to you and him and him and that alias when I feel like it's right.  Are you and others trying to elicit a response from me and um...maybe Talon?  Think about it...you and the board fence sitters are just waiting for me or someone else to post so you can pass judgement and whine and perpetuate your illusion of why this board is the way it is.

Looking forward to our continued conversation

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vorlon305 reads

My question has nothing to do with whether or not I can handle such language.  I've been called far worse by people I actually know.  Nor does it have anything to do with censorship, something I have no power to do anyway as you well know.  Maybe there's a double standard.  Maybe there isn't.  Maybe I'm just better at knowing when I've rattled TER's chain enough that next they will decide to yank mine in return.  And yes, I am aware you have been on the receiving end of more than a few posts with one degree or another of derogatory language.

But none of that has anything to do with why I asked you the question I did. I want to know specifically why you do.  You will write these posts presenting your view on one or more matters and they are clearly well written; words chosen with care.  And yet here and there you will toss in a word or phrase that makes me go hmmm.  And I do that because it seems jarring; somehow out of place with the rest of the sentence, paragraph, etc.  And it seems to me that it undercuts the argument you are trying to make.  And then I think about it some more and wonder if it is intentional, if you are trying to accomplish something by including it.  If not, so be it.

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funman1969556 reads

Could not agree more.  My advice if you have a beef with someone take it up with them privately. If you want to make this a board people want to participate on  and  relevant . Name calling and disparaging posts serve no useful purpose to furthering our enjoyment   together IMO

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vorlon402 reads

He has become our poster child for poor board behavior.  At this point, why should he be treated civilly?

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my_2Cents305 reads

All of talon's posts are troll-jobs.  He throws out the lure and someone always bites..

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arunee357 reads

I'm not sure why people comment to this Talon.  He seems to be a very lonely fellow who without a keyboard in front of him would probably get no attention whatsoever.  Just ignore him as you would the passing of gas from someone walking past you on the street.  Same premise.

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Dr.BudGreen445 reads

(mostly because I would like to see you and your friends posting here more often)
but I think that your response was exactly what talon was hoping for.  
I certainly don't believe he was trying to be helpful.  

Happy Valentines Day
Bud

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Nago8441 reads

Too bad we can't all be one of your little minions and expect a freebee after shilling you 15 times. You get more out of this board than Talon so quit whining

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Boccaccio8434 reads

She does not stoop to that.  
Are you pissed off because she wouldn't for you?
No PMs please.

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OldRanger340 reads

I shilled her because I had  a wonderful experience with a wonderful lady.
The extra likes I the shill received  I feel came from reactions to all of the obnoxious posting in regards to women and it was a place for people to show their frustration.
I personally am glad to see many of the silent ladies are reading the board even though not actively participating

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OldTimerB436 reads

And both can learn from the other.

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MsDynamite576 reads

Charge more so talon can't afford to see you let alone look at your ads because they'll be filtered out of his search criteria

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TalonTed526 reads

Hi sweetie,, I'm pretty I spent more money on hoes last year then your take home. If there's a person I think its worth seeing, I'm more than willing to pony up whatever their asking $.

Posted By: MsDynamite
Charge more so talon can't afford to see you let alone look at your ads because they'll be filtered out of his search criteria.  
 
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Snidleywhiplash384 reads

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sirex312 reads

There you go using that word  "ho" again. I hate that F*****g word! I guess some of us know how to treat and respect woman and some never know how to! Anyone with that attitude towards provides, who feels that they are just "hos" shouldn't be allowed to partake here!

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MsDynamite384 reads

And I'm pretty sure they threw up ....
Multiple times after reading your reviews . Like I said you're the problem not providers.
Maybe take up knitting or something if you hate women so much eeesh !

Posted By: talon199094
Hi sweetie,, I'm pretty I spent more money on hoes last year then your take home. If there's a person I think its worth seeing, I'm more than willing to pony up whatever their asking $.  
Posted By: MsDynamite
Charge more so talon can't afford to see you let alone look at your ads because they'll be filtered out of his search criteria.    
 
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TalonTed339 reads

Why would you think I hate woman? I fucking love chicks with pussy and tits.

Posted By: MsDynamite
 
 And I'm pretty sure they threw up ....  
 Multiple times after reading your reviews . Like I said you're the problem not providers.  
 Maybe take up knitting or something if you hate women so much eeesh !  
Posted By: talon199094
Hi sweetie,, I'm pretty I spent more money on hoes last year then your take home. If there's a person I think its worth seeing, I'm more than willing to pony up whatever their asking $.  
Posted By: MsDynamite
Charge more so talon can't afford to see you let alone look at your ads because they'll be filtered out of his search criteria.    
   
   
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OldRanger438 reads

The validity of everything you say in your post is tainted by your attitude and disrespectful nature.
I can actually agree with a lot of what you said but not so amazingly most of the ladies I have seen do not need a lesson from you as how to run their business.  
Why not try to be a little respectful for a change and maybe someone besides one or two others will actually admit to agreeing with you on things.
Or is it that you just enjoy being a TROLL.

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Picknpoppy629 reads

Not all men are worthy of receiving me and those who are must prove it.

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OldTimerB399 reads

My thoughts exactly.

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Not all men are worthy of receiving me and those who are must prove it.

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Not all men are worthy of receiving me and those who are must prove it.

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jimmymack100414 reads

you my boy are in need of human relation skills. I don't know why you even see these gals by listening to your comments by certainly understand why you have to pay for it. These women are providing us services that some men need and enjoy yes the sex is great but many men also enjoy their conversation, wit ,charm and their varied stories. Certainly a portion come from a lifetime of hardship and some or may not be fresh enough for you be gentlemen and have some tolerance after all look what they have to put up up such as drunks guys with terrible hygiene and of course now a arrogant duck like you.I wonder what the women who have seen you would write on a form such terms about a visit from you.Just try and look at things in a more positive perspective and if you have to criticize these gals do it with constructive criticism your message may be worth while.

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TalonTed437 reads

They would say he's a fucking awesome dude, a good and few who actually tips.

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you my boy are in need of human relation skills. I don't know why you even see these gals by listening to your comments by certainly understand why you have to pay for it. These women are providing us services that some men need and enjoy yes the sex is great but many men also enjoy their conversation, wit ,charm and their varied stories. Certainly a portion come from a lifetime of hardship and some or may not be fresh enough for you be gentlemen and have some tolerance after all look what they have to put up up such as drunks guys with terrible hygiene and of course now a arrogant duck like you.I wonder what the women who have seen you would write on a form such terms about a visit from you.Just try and look at things in a more positive perspective and if you have to criticize these gals do it with constructive criticism your message may be worth while.

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Dr.BudGreen321 reads

then why do you feel the need to behave the way you do when you post here?

Posted By: talon199094
 
 They would say he's a fucking awesome dude, a good and few who actually tips.  
   
Posted By: jimmymack100
you my boy are in need of human relation skills. I don't know why you even see these gals by listening to your comments by certainly understand why you have to pay for it. These women are providing us services that some men need and enjoy yes the sex is great but many men also enjoy their conversation, wit ,charm and their varied stories. Certainly a portion come from a lifetime of hardship and some or may not be fresh enough for you be gentlemen and have some tolerance after all look what they have to put up up such as drunks guys with terrible hygiene and of course now a arrogant duck like you.I wonder what the women who have seen you would write on a form such terms about a visit from you.Just try and look at things in a more positive perspective and if you have to criticize these gals do it with constructive criticism your message may be worth while.
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TalonTed325 reads

Some people can't handle the truth, I tell like I see it, no hate here. I've saved a lot of guys from wasting their hard earn $$$ from ugly, or poor performance chick.

Posted By: Dr.BudGreen
then why do you feel the need to behave the way you do when you post here?  
   
Posted By: talon199094
 
  They would say he's a fucking awesome dude, a good and few who actually tips.  
     
Posted By: jimmymack100
you my boy are in need of human relation skills. I don't know why you even see these gals by listening to your comments by certainly understand why you have to pay for it. These women are providing us services that some men need and enjoy yes the sex is great but many men also enjoy their conversation, wit ,charm and their varied stories. Certainly a portion come from a lifetime of hardship and some or may not be fresh enough for you be gentlemen and have some tolerance after all look what they have to put up up such as drunks guys with terrible hygiene and of course now a arrogant duck like you.I wonder what the women who have seen you would write on a form such terms about a visit from you.Just try and look at things in a more positive perspective and if you have to criticize these gals do it with constructive criticism your message may be worth while.
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vorlon266 reads

Doubtful.  Most of us figured out a long time ago that your hobbying strategy is one that is likely to produce a lot of bad results.  You on the other hand don't seem to grasp that.

Posted By: talon199094
Some people can't handle the truth, I tell like I see it, no hate here. I've saved a lot of guys from wasting their hard earn $$$ from ugly, or poor performance chick.  
   
Posted By: Dr.BudGreen
then why do you feel the need to behave the way you do when you post here?  
     
Posted By: talon199094
   
   They would say he's a fucking awesome dude, a good and few who actually tips.    
       
   
Posted By: jimmymack100
you my boy are in need of human relation skills. I don't know why you even see these gals by listening to your comments by certainly understand why you have to pay for it. These women are providing us services that some men need and enjoy yes the sex is great but many men also enjoy their conversation, wit ,charm and their varied stories. Certainly a portion come from a lifetime of hardship and some or may not be fresh enough for you be gentlemen and have some tolerance after all look what they have to put up up such as drunks guys with terrible hygiene and of course now a arrogant duck like you.I wonder what the women who have seen you would write on a form such terms about a visit from you.Just try and look at things in a more positive perspective and if you have to criticize these gals do it with constructive criticism your message may be worth while.
   
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bosssik345 reads

He is a pig. You ladies are wonderful. I wasted 15 minutes reading this shit.  

Posted By: talon199094
1- Don't use fake or old pictures from when you were 18/19/20.  We will rip you on the reviews-> less customers.  
 2- Listen to your customers, aka cash boss.  
 3- A little make up goes a long way.  
 4- Shower between customers.  
 5- Let the customer dictate the conversions. Most guys just wants to fuck, pay, leave or pay, fuck, leave and we do not want to hear your stories about how hard your life was and you had to turn to tricks to make a living.  
   
 6- More kissing and bbbj will definitely have more repeat clients.  
   
   
   

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tayler3000446 reads

something from his past. But most of us are all a little damaged

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turbinflyer1384 reads

Like I said yesterday, the guy hates himself

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looking64452 reads

But, my .02.  

I've been on this board for years, have hobbyed for quite awhile....due to some life changing turn of events...my hobbying days are very limited(almost nil).  I have kept up with my VIP for years, finally deciding to not renew.  I have also kept up on the boards....cheap entertainment.  I sure do miss the gals, though.  Anyway....

Technically, Talon's initial post in this thread is correct.  I don't see anything that I vehemently disagree with.  I guess I take it as face value.  Here's my issue though.  Could Talon voice his displeasure differently?  In a more civil matter?....Of course.  BUT....listen to how society talks, how society disrespects, how society tells us to be independent, to say what we want, freedom of speech, how our culture today generates these attitudes.  He's not saying anything new that I can't hear on the radio, facebook posts, twitter...whatever.  We, the people of this land, demand our freedoms...but without any responsibilities.  We have nurtured this type of behavior...and now we criticize it?  Hmm

And Wong.  I guess I don't go back and study his posts, but lately I've looked more closely to what he's written.  Opinions are just that, opinions.  If certain statements are based on facts, I need to see with my own eyes.  Otherwise, still an opinion.  Some of us are confrontational and argumentative.  I'm not one.  However, it's good some are...it brings debate.  A debate in which one needs thick skin.  My job requires me to have this....I deal with problems and clients all day...I don't want it otherwise.  Some thrive on it.  Like I said, I haven't gone back to see his posts...but if he threw out a few zingers...I think he's man enough to receive them.  

Probably a little late for any one to give a shit anymore, but needed to write something.  

I would like to add.  I believe I wrote these statements as if I would have said this man to man.  Maybe before you start typing something, ask yourself if you would say these things if that person were standing in front of you.

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Wongbater256 reads

Very well written opinion.  IMO nothing at all to disagree with.  Thanks for still showing up even if you felt you were late to the rodeo...it's great to hear an opinion from someone we may seldom hear from.

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OldTimerB248 reads

I think you said exactly what I've struggled to say re Talon. We need to take him at face value. Shooting the messenger doesn't work.
Excellent post sir. Please join us again.

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nobodysfool2007268 reads

Thanks for your well thought out post, and observations.
Hence, it is never to late to the rodeo, as intelligent and impartial observations, and smooth
delivery should always be welcomed in this forum.

If anything, it tends to give to the perception of Lead by Example, and possibly get others to
think, before they begin to type out an opinion, or make a statement.
I, like you, have been around for a very long time, and due to circumstances, and life, I have been
absent by choice, but still reading the board, for the occasional view into hobby land, as well
as cheap entertainment at times.  

I tend to keep my yap shut now days, but years ago, I shared opinions, experiences, and performed
a whole lot of point man duties, because of who I was. No one got hurt, and it was fun.

That all begin to change some time ago, and it was then, that it was time for me to move on
and find a different kind of entertainment than the hobby.
With that said, I can clearly see, that the board, and those who post, are a lot less informative.
This Talon may be a different breed, but he does state his mind, without any PC.
while I do not always agree with the substance of his posts, I will say that he has made it quite
clear, that he is going to state whatever is on his mind, no matter what anyone else thinks.

The very least is that he is contributing what he thinks or feels is worthwhile information.
Some posters just jabber on, and blow smoke, without any real substance shared.

Off my soap box and back to my perch.  

 

Posted By: looking64
But, my .02.    
   
 I've been on this board for years, have hobbyed for quite awhile....due to some life changing turn of events...my hobbying days are very limited(almost nil).  I have kept up with my VIP for years, finally deciding to not renew.  I have also kept up on the boards....cheap entertainment.  I sure do miss the gals, though.  Anyway....  
   
 Technically, Talon's initial post in this thread is correct.  I don't see anything that I vehemently disagree with.  I guess I take it as face value.  Here's my issue though.  Could Talon voice his displeasure differently?  In a more civil matter?....Of course.  BUT....listen to how society talks, how society disrespects, how society tells us to be independent, to say what we want, freedom of speech, how our culture today generates these attitudes.  He's not saying anything new that I can't hear on the radio, facebook posts, twitter...whatever.  We, the people of this land, demand our freedoms...but without any responsibilities.  We have nurtured this type of behavior...and now we criticize it?  Hmm  
   
 And Wong.  I guess I don't go back and study his posts, but lately I've looked more closely to what he's written.  Opinions are just that, opinions.  If certain statements are based on facts, I need to see with my own eyes.  Otherwise, still an opinion.  Some of us are confrontational and argumentative.  I'm not one.  However, it's good some are...it brings debate.  A debate in which one needs thick skin.  My job requires me to have this....I deal with problems and clients all day...I don't want it otherwise.  Some thrive on it.  Like I said, I haven't gone back to see his posts...but if he threw out a few zingers...I think he's man enough to receive them.    
   
 Probably a little late for any one to give a shit anymore, but needed to write something.    
   
 I would like to add.  I believe I wrote these statements as if I would have said this man to man.  Maybe before you start typing something, ask yourself if you would say these things if that person were standing in front of you.

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belindabell318 reads

Spot on.   As I said, it's not so much what you say but how you say it that matters.

Most things Talon says has merit but it's HOW he says it that is not so endearing

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