You may get this to work, if you have a team of top level attorneys. But I think you would be more likely to see the inside of the local jail!
1- I wen to ho house, gave cash to ho and told her it's for a friend who's going to show up later.
Perfectly legal because I'm not paying to sex.
2- "Friend" shows up, he fucks ho with out paying. Perfectly legal because he didn't pay for sex.
I'm an engineer and not a lawyer, but it seems to me that two perfectly legal steps should lead to legal result?
Am I a fucking genius or crazy to think this is legal or is this a find line between genius and crazy?
not well defined, but do you trust her to say the right thing ?
If this was Wall Street, it would be legal, but such a supposition here may incur a big legal bill to overcome if all parties agree to their story when confronted.
What you are describing is a criminal conspiracy, both you and your friend would equally guilty.
Prostitution is not exchanging sex for money, it is agreeing to exchange sex for money. The fact that you and your friend can sing a two part harmony to form one agreement accomplishes nothing more than adding an additional charge.
Up is right. Furthermore, talon is a fucking idiot.
What you are describing is a criminal conspiracy, both you and your friend would equally guilty.
Prostitution is not exchanging sex for money, it is agreeing to exchange sex for money. The fact that you and your friend can sing a two part harmony to form one agreement accomplishes nothing more than adding an additional charge.
I've never mentioned to the ho that the $ was for sex, I told her it was for my friend. The ho agreed to fuck my friend who did not pay for sex.
What you are describing is a criminal conspiracy, both you and your friend would equally guilty.
Prostitution is not exchanging sex for money, it is agreeing to exchange sex for money. The fact that you and your friend can sing a two part harmony to form one agreement accomplishes nothing more than adding an additional charge.
Doesn't matter. The sting LE runs at motels rarely have the explicit expression of $ for sex, basically you show up and are busted. Justice may be blind, but she is not stupid. Prosecutors and judges can easily see through your ruse. If you want more information, I can PM you the names of attorneys that handle prostitution cases.
Remember that being charged with prostitution does the real damage, no one gives a flying fuck that the charges are dropped or you are acquitted.
I have the skills and knowledge to be able to help a provider get the proper kinds of photos, a high-end web site and help her with advertising and marketing and setting herself up in such a way she can make a lot more money and be much safer from LE. I was thinking of offering my service to a provider in exchange for a FWB situation and I mean true friends not just in theory. Would love to have a close female friend without it being a "relationship". I enjoy just talking with a woman. The problem is...me helping her out as a friend could be defined as "promoting prostitution"
It disturbs me when I see so many mistakes some of the girls make as I truly worry about them. For example, some post photos with EXIF data embedded in the image giving their GPS coordinates. Luckily backpage seems to strip that data out automatically.
The way they have these damn laws structured really sucks. I have nothing but admiration and respect and appreciation for these wonderful women and I wish the idiots in charge would just legalize everything.
You are correct sir, let me know where/when I can buy you a drink.
Based on what I have gleaned from those who are, that might be considered promoting prostitution.
Perfectly legal because I'm not paying to sex.
2- "Friend" shows up, he fucks ho with out paying. Perfectly legal because he didn't pay for sex.
I'm an engineer and not a lawyer, but it seems to me that two perfectly legal steps should lead to legal result?
Am I a fucking genius or crazy to think this is legal or is this a find line between genius and crazy?
you would probably fall into "promoting" prostitution angle.
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How would it be "promoting"? I didn't tell the ho that the $ was for sex, I told her it was for a friend and if she decides not to pass the $ to my friend, the friend won't complain.
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Lets put it this way...
If you give a drug dealer $100 and say I have a friend stopping by later hook them up or what ever you want to say with out saying it is for drugs. Your friend shows up and bang gets some drugs. You all will get hammered. You were involved in the transaction. Same as prostitution.
Like others have stated..... you are all in the mix.... money exchanged hands, act was committed. That is all Jonny Law needs to prosecute. All involved parties will get hammered.
Here is another example.... Ho calls you up and says, "i need a ride to a hotel can you give me a ride".... You being a good guy give Ho a ride to the hotel you don't know she is a ho or is going to exchange money for sex.... you never even take one penny for doing this either.... yet you are now apart of the illegal act. YES JUST GIVING THE HO A RIDE you are not falling under promoting prostitution.
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Can't compare illegal drug to sex act. Last time I check I can have sex legally with anyone over 18 if both of us consent.
If you give a drug dealer $100 and say I have a friend stopping by later hook them up or what ever you want to say with out saying it is for drugs. Your friend shows up and bang gets some drugs. You all will get hammered. You were involved in the transaction. Same as prostitution.
Like others have stated..... you are all in the mix.... money exchanged hands, act was committed. That is all Jonny Law needs to prosecute. All involved parties will get hammered.
Here is another example.... Ho calls you up and says, "i need a ride to a hotel can you give me a ride".... You being a good guy give Ho a ride to the hotel you don't know she is a ho or is going to exchange money for sex.... you never even take one penny for doing this either.... yet you are now apart of the illegal act. YES JUST GIVING THE HO A RIDE you are not falling under promoting prostitution.
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yes you can if money is some how involved.
Lets put it this way....
If that guy comes to that place just for sex. You are now apart of a illegal transaction. You gave money towards something that is illegal. even if it was unknown to you.
You are over thinking this and trying as hard as you can to find a loop hole. There are none. Don't you think lawyers who handle this stuff wouldn't have found these "loop holes". Don't you think there are lawyers in this hobby. And any "loop hole" would have been discovered by now.
especially this one you are talking about.
If you don't want to believe it, feel free to try it out.
Alright lets put this few ways....
1. you are in the mix of the transaction because you supplied the money. You are at risk of getting busted.
2. Lets say this is drugs... you are in the mix again because you supplied the money. You think cartel leaders ever touch the drugs or mafia heads. Yet they still get busted because they are in the chain of events. Same with you.
3. This is an example of "Promoting Prostitution". A ho calls you up and asks for a ride to a house/hotel. You being a good guy give Ho a ride. She doesn't tell you that she is going to go there to suck dick for $$,. You are blind to what she will do. You don't even ask for a dime in gas money. You are just doing it out of the kindness of your heart. If you drive her to a sting.... you will get nailed for "promoting prostitution".... because you were in the mix.
You see any trail from you to the actual act of something going on you are apart of the crime
And the overwhelming opinion is you'd be an "accessory".
but hey don't take our word for it, do whatever you want to do.
You may get this to work, if you have a team of top level attorneys. But I think you would be more likely to see the inside of the local jail!
....but I'm guessing the laws are written to cover these kind of technicalities and you most likely would be convicted anyway.
Speaking of which, I think we spend way too much time on here discussing "legal" issues. While it is important to know (and exercise) your rights and nobody wants to see the inside of a court room and/or jail house, the penalties are relatively minor for a first time offender convicted of garden variety solicitation (usually a combo of probation and community service/counseling).
Much more concerning (to most hobbyists) would be the effect on our personal lives and relationships: wife/SO; kids; job; friends; community reputation; etc
A couple of years ago, there was an outfit in Phoenix which advertised as a studio. There, you would go and pay a fee to have a porn film made with you and the girl of your choice as the stars.
They had an address and maybe a website; I had my choice of 5 or 6 girls. Once in the room, I took a few pictures of the girl and then the camera was turned off. I had a great time with a heavily tattooed, bbbj specialist
I'm not sure what happened to them but they are no longer there. Probably got busted after a couple of years.
...but it's a very common misconception that it's always legal to make porn anytime, anywhere. Only in California and New Hampshire is it legal to shoot porn and, despite the huge volume of porn that's produced in Florida, it's illegal there, too, just not strictly enforced.