Minnesota

I haven't had to do much screening
vantheman666 10 Reviews 656 reads
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What I'm trying to do now is see a few providers other than my ATF, so I have a few references, and hopefully some whitelists.  As for the whole "trafficking" panic going on these days, it reminds me of the "Satanic Panic" that rocked the American church in the late 80s and early 90s.

Mzchievous1542 reads

When contacting a lady with references using only body rub ladies & maybe 1 escort you've seen 6 months ago or more is NOT sufficient for most of us.
 Ladies, what are your thoughts, am I wrong in feeling like the majority of body rub ladies don't do the same kind of screening as escorts, and how about when the only escort reference is outdated or suddenly ( they are) gone, maybe it's just me but my intuition says that when it quacks like a duck..

Screening is such an important step, it only helps keep us consenting adults safe. I would love to hear others opinions about the overall feeling lately in MN when thinking of LE

Do we believe that the embarrassing bust where the officers are now trying to sue the news reporters has any kind of effect on who they target?  

I've always heard it's pretty much low hanging fruit and of course the underage (as it should be those poor young girls)  
Though it's been my belief we as society are only becoming more evolved and accepting of each other's choices.  
Do we think these outdated laws may one day be eradicated?

The Human Trafficking tag line brings in so much money and must be very hard for officers not to use that wording when they know it only leads to more funding.
Personally I believe that human trafficking with mid and late teen white American girls is not the problem it was in the early internet days, maybe I'm naive, but I'm thinking the influx of so many beautiful adult women making independent choices & running their own escort activities had to have put a major dent in the pimp scenarios of yesterday, and maybe less demand for trafficking?  
I'm not sure, these are my thoughts, I would love to hear anyone else's opinions on the subject.
Either way Happy Hobby-ing and have a great Monday!

What I'm trying to do now is see a few providers other than my ATF, so I have a few references, and hopefully some whitelists.  As for the whole "trafficking" panic going on these days, it reminds me of the "Satanic Panic" that rocked the American church in the late 80s and early 90s.

Dmbs1650 reads

Compard to a couple of years ago massage provider screening is way ahead of where it was.  
Some are as careful as the FS providers.
If dealing with references one needs to have an idea of who you are getting it from.

 



-- Modified on 10/12/2015 1:08:50 PM

I've had troubles recently when completing screening - not getting any communication after a standard "Hi
Thanks for contacting me. I received your request and I am checking on your info now. I will get back to you shortly to confirm our meeting."

That was on October 6th, and since then no response when I've asked for updates if I could assist in any way.  The appointment was supposed to be for this Friday :-(

This is a highly reputable provider, I not only provided multiple references but also legitimate references (FB, LinkedIn, employement) - so I'm surprised with the lack of response.  Even a denial due to lack of ability to confirm (references not getting back to her, etc) would be understandable.  I've wanted to see her for a long time, and now finally mustered the courage to put in references to provide confidence.

It's disappointing to say the least - I fully support the screening process, but only submit info outside of provider references when it's a confirmed legit, highly reviewed provider.

Any thoughts?  I don't want to bother her or call/text to follow up...is this a "get the hint" moment or what do you all think?

Regardless of the why I'd move on at this point.

Whynotyou383 reads

No provider is worth giving your real information. You should ask her to delete all your info if you hear back from her. You do realize you're participating in something illegal don't you?

Posted By: dutch151
I've had troubles recently when completing screening - not getting any communication after a standard "Hi  
 Thanks for contacting me. I received your request and I am checking on your info now. I will get back to you shortly to confirm our meeting."  
   
 That was on October 6th, and since then no response when I've asked for updates if I could assist in any way.  The appointment was supposed to be for this Friday :-(  
   
 This is a highly reputable provider, I not only provided multiple references but also legitimate references (FB, LinkedIn, employement) - so I'm surprised with the lack of response.  Even a denial due to lack of ability to confirm (references not getting back to her, etc) would be understandable.  I've wanted to see her for a long time, and now finally mustered the courage to put in references to provide confidence.  
   
 It's disappointing to say the least - I fully support the screening process, but only submit info outside of provider references when it's a confirmed legit, highly reviewed provider.  
   
 Any thoughts?  I don't want to bother her or call/text to follow up...is this a "get the hint" moment or what do you all think?

I think that most body rub only providers don't screen as thoroughly as escorts due to being higher volume by nature, the booking process is faster and that any guy who uses a 3 yr old reference needs to get out more or start over again with some kind of verification service because a lot can happen in 6+ months or longer.
 I know I won't vouch for them I'm pretty much like;
Oh' you saw me 2 years ago? Nope, I won't vouch for you.  
Don't even ask. Because chances are I will not remember you.

That article on MPD "no longer using undercover police to investigate" didn't mean they aren't investigating suspected "criminals" at all as there's more than one way to bust an operation, we all know this.

The guise of "human trafficking" will forever be used as leverage by officials to combat something that is obviously never going away so, the only things we can do as citizens is continue to vote for people trying to get legalization at least on the table for discussion.
 Maybe then that will get the ball rolling towards legalization and shut down all those negative stigmas the general public has regarding sex work ? Who knows.

God forbid we have a bunch of financially empowered women running around Minnesota investing in & buying things amirite guys ? :P
- V

Posted By: Mzchievous
When contacting a lady with references using only body rub ladies & maybe 1 escort you've seen 6 months ago or more is NOT sufficient for most of us.  
  Ladies, what are your thoughts, am I wrong in feeling like the majority of body rub ladies don't do the same kind of screening as escorts, and how about when the only escort reference is outdated or suddenly ( they are) gone, maybe it's just me but my intuition says that when it quacks like a duck..  
   
 Screening is such an important step, it only helps keep us consenting adults safe. I would love to hear others opinions about the overall feeling lately in MN when thinking of LE  
   
 Do we believe that the embarrassing bust where the officers are now trying to sue the news reporters has any kind of effect on who they target?  
   
 I've always heard it's pretty much low hanging fruit and of course the underage (as it should be those poor young girls)  
 Though it's been my belief we as society are only becoming more evolved and accepting of each other's choices.  
 Do we think these outdated laws may one day be eradicated?  
   
 The Human Trafficking tag line brings in so much money and must be very hard for officers not to use that wording when they know it only leads to more funding.  
 Personally I believe that human trafficking with mid and late teen white American girls is not the problem it was in the early internet days, maybe I'm naive, but I'm thinking the influx of so many beautiful adult women making independent choices & running their own escort activities had to have put a major dent in the pimp scenarios of yesterday, and maybe less demand for trafficking?  
 I'm not sure, these are my thoughts, I would love to hear anyone else's opinions on the subject.  
 Either way Happy Hobby-ing and have a great Monday!  
   
-- Modified on 10/15/2015 4:28:18 AM

I actually had a very well known fs provider go through this very same process with me when I saw her multiple times last fall. She was the only girl that ever told me that "massage" girl references weren't as reliable as "fs" providers. I can bet this is that same girl.

... I don't know why it needs to be painted as a body rub vs. FS thing. I know many non-FS providers who do thorough screening--either by themselves, or through their assistants. And from what I've observed in TER over the years, several FS providers have gotten into bad situations due to inadequate screening.  

I would hope that rather than going by a generalization when considering references from other providers (e.g. "Oh she's a body rubber so I won't accept her as a reference"), providers would take into account the person behind the reference. Not what kinds of services she chooses to offer or not offer, but whether she has a solid reputation in the provider community for protecting her safety and that of her clients and other providers.

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