Almost any question you might have has been discussed here. There are pages of threads on the sugar bowl. You can also search and find answers. While I'm basically retired from the sugar world, to answer your question I didn't pay for any meet or greets.
Posted By: Tarheel10
I am a bit confused with a recent situation on the site.I contacted a beautiful young lady and our conversation was going really well until she told me that she expected a date allowance for our meet and greet time..we were just going to hang out and get acquainted. Obviously I haven't met any ladies yet in person on the site.Is this standard procedure for you guys on the site or a line of bullshit?? I appreciate any input I can get...
Although, SOP in the Sugar Bowl is a tricky subject. There are not a lot of hard and fast rules in the Sugar World except for using common sense of course.
So far in the slightly less than a year I have been at this I have seen about three dozen POT SB's in person. I have yet to give a "date allowance" for a first M&G date unless and until it ended up with sex. The closest I have come to this was just the day before yesterday as a matter of fact. I had a girl claim she was broke and out of gas and needed "something" to come meet me. I was feeling generous after getting laid twice that day and I contacted her as I was nearing town and told her if was really that much in need if she would meet me at a gas station close to both of us that I would fill up her tank.
Actually it was myself that I ended up doing the favor for, we were supposed to go out for dinner/drinks last night, but after seeing how "thick" (fat) she was, all she got out of me was that tank of gas. lol She texted me a few times yesterday, but I was "busy" busy with my other 18 year old SB who I just took home an hour ago that is. lol
I treat POT SBs who DEMAND money just for meeting the same way as I treat HDH's who demand you fill out their stupid online form before giving you the time of day. I simply move on to the next one.
The decision to pay for a first meeting depends on numerous factors. I have never had to pay a "greeting fee' myself in about 3-4 years of this. It all depends. How many SB's are close? What is the pool before you kick this one to the side for an initial asking price. Is she really hot? How badly do you want her? Has she been doing this for a while? What are your finances like? How hot are you, lol? If a 100$ is nothing, then throw it out there in a nice card. She would be very impressed. An expensive restaurant could be much more. How much are you prepared to pay her monthly? If over 1200-1500 a month, then she's on what I would consider the higher end. Some guys with money to burn would throw it away like water and overpay. Is this her MO, making her a high maintenance girl that wants "shopping, gifts, jewelry, etc?'
Most realistic college age girls are good with 300 or so per meet, sometimes 350-400 depending on the area. Their friends have to work 30+ hours to make that much pre-tax at 10$ per hour wage. The max I go to is 400, if they want more than that, I move on. If I wanted, I could pay more but why bother. Everyone does things that work for them.
Lastly, you have the money which you can take elsewhere. There is always a new girl around the corner thinking about posting a profile. Give it time. In the end, there is no set answer to your question. Do what feels right for you.
She was not that hot...I would rate her about a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10.. She wanted 350 just for the meet and greet.. She had very little cost involved as I was going to her city to meet her which is only one hour from me.. Hell I could get a very nice lay from an awesome escort for that cost.. Blew my mind!
I have done this for only a month, I'm in LA and I have had more sex with young hot women then ever. So much, to tell the truth, I'm a bit burned out and almost need to go to a sexaholic class; but I won'! I met one girl who was very mature and business like, but in a good way, and she was willing to come to a Starbucks near my work to meet me free of charge. In fact, she offered to buy me coffee! I bought hers. But basically, just chat the girl up like you are on match.com then ask to see how your physical chemistry is and ask her to come over to you, or you to her place. I suggest in advance getting the $ clear, but as others have said, $300 is basic at least in Los Angeles for a 18-25 year old, the extremely hot 25-30 year olds who have been around want $400. The girl that met me wanted $500, but she was so worth it!
But I also suggest that you be careful with the 18-21 year olds, they since they fuck and suck us, they will do the same to everyone else, including their "college" friends. So get your STD tests and have them in an email so you can show them and suggest they also get them. There are many very low cost places out there, especially in large cities. If you show them you are clean, they will deliver much more fun for you, and if they have tests to show you, then you have some peace of mind.
But SA, it blows away your traditional hooker!
Some of the really hot ones (10 on the TER scale) get so many requests to meet that they decide to ask for a fee to meet. This way, they can weed out the time wasters and tire kickers. If the girls is really hot and the fee is small (no more than 100), I will consider paying it. So far I have only done it twice. Unfortunately, they both wanted too much money per date (1K and 800) so I passed. 1K for an evening/afternoon (1 hour dining and 3+ hours of private time) is still a bargain compared to how much a TER-10 escort charges, but that sort of defeats the purpose of seeing a SB.
I have also met several girls from Baltimore and one from Richmond. Since they drove to Northern Virginia to meet me, I gave them 50-100 just to cover their gas money.
Not only dont I pay I stopped the lunch or dinner meets. It can ad up plus your are stuck with someone you may have zero interest in.
Only for arrangements. Had arrangements on first date.
For all the good info and excellent guidance!! Have fun guys and be safe!
but I won't pay a girl to have coffee with me. I had one hot Asian girl demand $500 for M&G which was ludicrous and when I politely declined she got all huffy and insulting! I have a meeting set for tomorrow with a local SB who is really hot and I am so eager to meet her and play with her. She asked for $100 to M&G and again I declined and she said ok! My theory is that I expect both me and the POT SB to have enough interest in each other to at the very least be willing to meet for coffee. What's the big risk, wasting an hour? If they don't even feel that motivated I'm gonna pass and find someone else.
Many SBs have never been told no so they are a bit confused when they run into a man that tells them ti to fyck off.
Posted By: sweetman
but I won't pay a girl to have coffee with me. I had one hot Asian girl demand $500 for M&G which was ludicrous and when I politely declined she got all huffy and insulting! I have a meeting set for tomorrow with a local SB who is really hot and I am so eager to meet her and play with her. She asked for $100 to M&G and again I declined and she said ok! My theory is that I expect both me and the POT SB to have enough interest in each other to at the very least be willing to meet for coffee. What's the big risk, wasting an hour? If they don't even feel that motivated I'm gonna pass and find someone else.
I think there are just as many flakey guys, scammers, and wack jobs that hound some of the POT SBs that some of the women get gun shy.
I always think to myself in regards to those guys "Thank you for setting the bar so low" lol
It's funny, just like with hookers and screening information. It's all in the way they either "ask" or demand" If a POT SB "demands" even five bucks for her time, she isn't getting a red cent from me, OTOH, if she needs cab or Uber fare, or tells me her tank is on empty, I "might" consider those types of "requests"
IMO any woman who demands a hundred, two hundred or more, just to show up, How much do you think such a self important demanding woman is going to ask for sex? Whatever that number is, I am POSITIVE it's too much.
I refuse to treat SA as if it is "What's Your Price" a sister site which people actually do bid up for dates (terrible site, more flakes and delusional girls who want 300 just to go on dates, supposedly for hair, make up, dress and Uber!!!)
I only had this one POT SB (I think Eastern Euro) who had asked for Uber money to meet me at an exclusive restaurant in La Jolla (George's, which I think SftD should know of), so the b*tch not only wanted to cost me a 200 lunch, she also wanted 100 in Uber or perhaps more, because as she put it, "a true gentleman ought to know that time is money". In my response, I wrote to her that what she was asking was totally reasonable and that I was a true Gent who would love to see her on the upcoming Friday! Thereafter immediately, I unshared all my private photos and then put her on a block and also blocked her email address! I think that she may have gotten the message!
Personally speaking, I operate a bit differently to most of my fellow monger daddies on here and I do actually offer 500, but it is not per meet basis. The girl I am currently seeing gets 500 every two weeks and stays overnight at the weekends. This is the closest to a GF situation with boundaries. We do go out to lunch and dinners which are also extra expenses but definitely worth it for me. I have also surprised her here and there by giving her anywhere from 50-100 for little trinkets or whateves! I don't like to make the ones whom I'm interested in to feel like a prostitute and I do not directly correlate the bi-monthly "gift" to BCD sort activity and the first case between us involving intimacy was "free", for lack of a better word. At times, I do see her logged into SA (I log in under a fake account which I have created) and I do not believe that I am the only SD involved or that she was going to be exclusive (we never discussed it) but I have certain advantages in my lifestyle which may lead into that situation.
The above is not a unique scenario as I have another POT SB (low 20's) who I think will jump at the same deal, but I have to be strategic with funds and although I would love to be able to have both, lack of further $$$ compel that I string along the 2nd one. Having invested already in the second one, I'm thinking that Eff it, maybe I offer her 500 and let her decide as to whether she wants to see me once a month (or more if she should so desire). As SftD has already stated, some of these college type young ladies just want to be able to hang out at a single guy's place who sorta "dates" them and helps out a bit with bills which is something their own peers will not be able to provide them with.
The caveat emptor being that one could easily lose that 500 if the POT SB turns out to be a R.O.B (for lack of a better acronym) which has happened to me before, but I can not change the style that suits me. I like to go to bed with them and have them wake up with me in the AM to hit the shower together! The hookerville never catered to my foibles in such manner and the civvie world turned out to be more headache than I ever wanted!
Good luck.
P.S. my fake profile is such a doozy 
Perhaps I will write up about it in a new thread as I have come up with some real scientific data on how BSC some of these delusional women are! LOL!
Hmmmm. Maybe I will go with a doozy story just for grins
Posted By: principium
I refuse to treat SA as if it is "What's Your Price" a sister site which people actually do bid up for dates (terrible site, more flakes and delusional girls who want 300 just to go on dates, supposedly for hair, make up, dress and Uber!!!)
I only had this one POT SB (I think Eastern Euro) who had asked for Uber money to meet me at an exclusive restaurant in La Jolla (George's, which I think SftD should know of), so the b*tch not only wanted to cost me a 200 lunch, she also wanted 100 in Uber or perhaps more, because as she put it, "a true gentleman ought to know that time is money". In my response, I wrote to her that what she was asking was totally reasonable and that I was a true Gent who would love to see her on the upcoming Friday! Thereafter immediately, I unshared all my private photos and then put her on a block and also blocked her email address! I think that she may have gotten the message!
Personally speaking, I operate a bit differently to most of my fellow monger daddies on here and I do actually offer 500, but it is not per meet basis. The girl I am currently seeing gets 500 every two weeks and stays overnight at the weekends. This is the closest to a GF situation with boundaries. We do go out to lunch and dinners which are also extra expenses but definitely worth it for me. I have also surprised her here and there by giving her anywhere from 50-100 for little trinkets or whateves! I don't like to make the ones whom I'm interested in to feel like a prostitute and I do not directly correlate the bi-monthly "gift" to BCD sort activity and the first case between us involving intimacy was "free", for lack of a better word. At times, I do see her logged into SA (I log in under a fake account which I have created) and I do not believe that I am the only SD involved or that she was going to be exclusive (we never discussed it) but I have certain advantages in my lifestyle which may lead into that situation.
The above is not a unique scenario as I have another POT SB (low 20's) who I think will jump at the same deal, but I have to be strategic with funds and although I would love to be able to have both, lack of further $$$ compel that I string along the 2nd one. Having invested already in the second one, I'm thinking that Eff it, maybe I offer her 500 and let her decide as to whether she wants to see me once a month (or more if she should so desire). As SftD has already stated, some of these college type young ladies just want to be able to hang out at a single guy's place who sorta "dates" them and helps out a bit with bills which is something their own peers will not be able to provide them with.
The caveat emptor being that one could easily lose that 500 if the POT SB turns out to be a R.O.B (for lack of a better acronym) which has happened to me before, but I can not change the style that suits me. I like to go to bed with them and have them wake up with me in the AM to hit the shower together! The hookerville never catered to my foibles in such manner and the civvie world turned out to be more headache than I ever wanted!
Good luck.
P.S. my fake profile is such a doozy
Perhaps I will write up about it in a new thread as I have come up with some real scientific data on how BSC some of these delusional women are! LOL!
I've had demands of $300 to meet, I give them a simple no thanks and on to the next. If I really enjoy a woman's company and she requested nothing then I will give kick down a $50-100 to let her know my interest, I won't give a penny if asked.
It's a chance that "maybe" someone will actually agree and cover what she's asking for and I bet some have. I think another reason for them to ask is like someone said, "too many flakes" and "No shows". I'm very straight up and honest with my communication that maybe they get "comfortable" meeting me...but I have never been ask.
It implies that she is in charge, that she makes the rules and that you are lucky that she will even grace you with her presence. That is NOT the message I want to send to a POT SB. Since when does a grown ass man allow a college aged girl to dictate how things are going to be between them?
Many of these women are brand new to this, not at all like the "top tier SB's" that Z was always raving about. Even the hottest of the hot are still college aged "NON pros" To allow them to set all the rules is the same mentality that has created the HDH mentality in hooker land. I don't overpay for hookers and I don't pay simply to watch a girl eat a meal that I am paying for. lol
Agree with GA gambler! Don't be that asshole that inflates their entitled egos and fucks it up for the rest of us... They are lucky to be in OUR presence... We have careers, have experience, and our shit is together. They are lucky getting to know us just as much as its a privilege to be with their youth... It's a mutual respect thing and don't let them dictate otherwise.
