All Asian, normal massage price with HE, tip is expected. Mostly young Asian, some are older, it's a hit/miss.
I hate rants, but here I am. Earlier today, I was asked to pay $200 for a body rub. In fact, the last 3 girls I've contacted (who now all seem to be managed by "Em") have quoted me at least $200 for a 1 hour session. Think about that -- $200 for a crappy massage and a hand job from a youngish, probably slightly overweight, reasonably cute woman. $200!!! 2 years ago I'd go 3 - 5 times per month, pay between $120 - $150 and have a hot hour with a really cute young woman. The market is getting flooded and is being dominated by one player who is driving up the pricing, while driving down quality. I hope guys start to wise up, stop paying too much for too little, and bring things back into reason. I'm looking for alternatives and willing to pay a reasonable price on a regular basis for good (body rub) service. But if things keep going the way they are going, I'm done with this. Am I alone in my frustration? Has anybody found any good alternatives? Sorry for the rant. Thanks for any thoughts.
For some examples, see my reviews... with the disclaimer that everyone has different tastes, and the always-popular "YMMV".
are the same thing he was ranting about unless you take the escort options then it is way more than 120-150 for sexy young fun!
But you are right, there are options out there!
Rub and tug with a very sexy lady for 130 not 200!
There are sexy providers for 200-250/hr.
Be a gentleman and a regular and you can find multiple hours for 100/hr or less with Girl next door types.
I am guilty, I venture out into the 300-350 range on a rare occasion, but my regulars are very reasonable.
The OP said he wanted alternatives to "$200 for a crappy massage and a hand job from a youngish, probably slightly overweight, reasonably cute young woman." My reviews include providers who:
A. Are under $200/hr and who give great FBSM with extras beyond a HJ. And depending on the woman, isn't youngish and/or slightly overweight, and is pretty hot IMO; or...
B. Are around $200/hr and give a great FBSM+++, but aren't youngish or overweight, and are far beyond "reasonably cute."
Of course, a lot depends on what one considers "youngish", "overweight", and "reasonably cute".
And there's others I know about but haven't reviewed (or seen yet) who offer a good massage with extras for under $200, and are very attractive--in my eyes anyway.
Maybe talon can offer some good options for the OP? 
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If Talon is going be our source we might as well ALL give up on finding a cute girl whom delivers at any price! LOL
Who were the providers?
I agree and that is keeping me from going to the bodyrub places. Because why pay $200..... for a rub and tug.
When FS is offered by some very hot women for $300.... and sometimes you get 2 pops and in between an average massage.
I'm friends with a massage provider , she charges more bcuz she offers more then the typical rub and tug body massage provider . I believe it's fair - offer more and be darn good at it = charge more.
IE Daty , Cbj OR Bbj , Toys , prostate , roleplays , GFE without the sex etc .
who is your friend ?
Em is simply a scheduler, she does not "manage" any ladies.
If you are paying more than 130-140 for a rub-n-tug you are paying too much! You can find that for 80-120 if you are diligent and patient.
Em is a scheduler, not a pimp; does not get paid on commission; has no personal or financial incentive to push prices up. Clients like to deal with Em because communication is prompt, clear and courteous; photos are real; you get verified once and can see any lady Em schedules for; and Em doesn't schedule for robs or rip-offs. So it's easy and safe. If Em's good work means women can get as many appointments as they want while charging $200, then I imagine they will continue to do so. Your post could start a groundswell of resistance that will force the ladies to lower their prices. Equally likely, it could motivate more ladies to contact Em about scheduling for them, too.
A quick look at backpage suggests there are still many advertisements for services in the range you seek. They are often unreviewed, though, so you can't be sure what you will get for your money.
I'm not trying to be snarky. I can't hobby as often as I'd like, either. If gas was still 25 cents a gallon and I could still rent a nice, two bedroom apartment for $100 a month (yes, I'm that old), I'd be hobbying twice a week. Personally, I'd still rather pay a bit more for safety and convenience.
If you look closely enough you will see that there's quite a few that charge under the 200 range ...Do more than a tease or hj too at that.
That's why I rarely see any "body rub" ladies these days for an average massage and a HJ for $180-200.
However, that being said, I do see some 'body rub' ladies (such as "Ahem") that offer MORE than a HJ. Those ladies I have found to be worth getting a 'body rub' from! Just not the HJ only girls, no matter the age or if nude/topless...
If you're looking for and only wanting that, then go for it but I prefer to get more bang for my bucks
Put in what you are looking for and see who pops up. You might be surprised.
he massage world has changed and there are many nuances in differences and the reviews are our friend.
Providers who use screeners pay allot for that service And they get allot in return for it... in some cases that covers rent and supplies, in other cases not. One smaller screener/organizer takes home after expenses 20-30k per month - and that is not the most common screener, by the way!
This does add to costs to the clients, some agree with it, some don't. Many providers who "only" do massage have come to the point of needing to hire a screener as that process can be overwhelming and even disgusting to read some of the dreck that is out there that can even sometimes be scary at worst, annoying at least, on a daily basis and if the providers are scared or annoyed by hard screening experiences then that may hamper their mood! What good is that?
However, some screening is slop shod and way too easy to get past.
But I do believe it is worth paying more for added safety for those providers who are high volume and always available night and day so you can come and visit most anytime and see someone within just hours. Some providers who do not use screeners can be more selective and are a longer wait and require a bit of planning in advance.... likely because they have a high return client base and lower volume and have more to give energetically in their sessions.
There are so many factors but the most important piece is to be safe, discreet, enjoy, and certainly there are very many options! You can find services in the $130 range and upwards. You do get what you pay for but it's still up to your preferences and chemistry. Are you looking for an incredible experience you'll remember fondly forever and ever? Or just to get off real quick? If the former, well, that's worth the hunt to find!
There is no monopoly on pleasure in Minneapolis twin cities and if you look you will find what suits you best
Very informative and very accurate as far as I'm concerned. Very well done.
Well said , my friend gives out $80 per appointment plus $10 for her ad everyday , this is for screener and the place she works out of , say she charged $150 a hour she would only keep $60 !
I keep telling her to go independent , but she enjoys the place she works with sense there's no overhead cost & its licensed . Please consider all of this before judging on why someone charges what they charge .
The massage world has changed and there are many nuances in differences and the reviews are our friend.
Providers who use screeners pay allot for that service And they get allot in return for it... in some cases that covers rent and supplies, in other cases not. One smaller screener/organizer takes home after expenses 20-30k per month - and that is not the most common screener, by the way!
This does add to costs to the clients, some agree with it, some don't. Many providers who "only" do massage have come to the point of needing to hire a screener as that process can be overwhelming and even disgusting to read some of the dreck that is out there that can even sometimes be scary at worst, annoying at least, on a daily basis and if the providers are scared or annoyed by hard screening experiences then that may hamper their mood! What good is that?
However, some screening is slop shod and way too easy to get past.
But I do believe it is worth paying more for added safety for those providers who are high volume and always available night and day so you can come and visit most anytime and see someone within just hours. Some providers who do not use screeners can be more selective and are a longer wait and require a bit of planning in advance.... likely because they have a high return client base and lower volume and have more to give energetically in their sessions.
There are so many factors but the most important piece is to be safe, discreet, enjoy, and certainly there are very many options! You can find services in the $130 range and upwards. You do get what you pay for but it's still up to your preferences and chemistry. Are you looking for an incredible experience you'll remember fondly forever and ever? Or just to get off real quick? If the former, well, that's worth the hunt to find!
There is no monopoly on pleasure in Minneapolis twin cities and if you look you will find what suits you best!
anks Nicole for that unexpected insight for the OP.
Welcome dear !
Thanks Nicole for that unexpected insight for the OP.
I always listen.
Trinity, Portia, a few guys...their words are always spot on.
The massage world has changed and there are many nuances in differences and the reviews are our friend.
Providers who use screeners pay allot for that service And they get allot in return for it... in some cases that covers rent and supplies, in other cases not. One smaller screener/organizer takes home after expenses 20-30k per month - and that is not the most common screener, by the way!
This does add to costs to the clients, some agree with it, some don't. Many providers who "only" do massage have come to the point of needing to hire a screener as that process can be overwhelming and even disgusting to read some of the dreck that is out there that can even sometimes be scary at worst, annoying at least, on a daily basis and if the providers are scared or annoyed by hard screening experiences then that may hamper their mood! What good is that?
However, some screening is slop shod and way too easy to get past.
But I do believe it is worth paying more for added safety for those providers who are high volume and always available night and day so you can come and visit most anytime and see someone within just hours. Some providers who do not use screeners can be more selective and are a longer wait and require a bit of planning in advance.... likely because they have a high return client base and lower volume and have more to give energetically in their sessions.
There are so many factors but the most important piece is to be safe, discreet, enjoy, and certainly there are very many options! You can find services in the $130 range and upwards. You do get what you pay for but it's still up to your preferences and chemistry. Are you looking for an incredible experience you'll remember fondly forever and ever? Or just to get off real quick? If the former, well, that's worth the hunt to find!
There is no monopoly on pleasure in Minneapolis twin cities and if you look you will find what suits you best!
The YYMV policy is very true with Em's girls, in my experience. I was a client of a couple of her DIY girls for years. The first few massages were DIY, but I was nice, always clean and respectful and I eventually started getting way more than DIY.
I really like the massage providers that GIVE you that extra...2-Cnotes is fine in my book...
HJ only...not...
Hence why we read reviews...
thanks
Kra
I could be charging $70-$80 but then that means I'd have to upsell the heck out of people if they wanted extra services, I think most ladies would do the same.
When I was working in an amp I didn't get out of any appointment without at least $180-$200 after my drop for doing the same things I may or may not do now .
I'd say that it's a lot better to have a set rate than sit there upselling guys to death during an appointment or hinting at tips wouldn't you agree?
One more thing, it's the same with hairstylists and manicurists.
When I work at a salon I'll charge you $80 for a haircut because it's that good & totally worth it so who are you to be telling providers what they're worth in the first place ? I mean,
If you can't afford it, don't buy it & If you can't afford to tip, don't go out to eat. Very simple. - V
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V,
I can for sure say that your $80 haircut for me is not worth it lol.
When I was working in an amp I didn't get out of any appointment without at least $180-$200 after my drop for doing the same things I may or may not do now .
I'd say that it's a lot better to have a set rate than sit there upselling guys to death during an appointment or hinting at tips wouldn't you agree?
One more thing, it's the same with hairstylists and manicurists.
When I work at a salon I'll charge you $80 for a haircut because it's that good & totally worth it so who are you to be telling providers what they're worth in the first place ? I mean,
If you can't afford it, don't buy it & If you can't afford to tip, don't go out to eat. Very simple. - V
-- Modified on 6/26/2015 11:12:26 PM
You're bald haha anyway, the price is the price naughty or nice 
Girls gotta pay bills you know and chair rentals aren't cheap these days .
big egos that need grooming...am I right? Vi you are worth one, two, three...wait every penny.
-- Modified on 6/28/2015 8:28:11 PM
All Asian, normal massage price with HE, tip is expected. Mostly young Asian, some are older, it's a hit/miss.