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LChayse See my TER Reviews 534 reads
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I can't express how deeply sorry I am. Catch this consoling hug I'm sending your way.  

Many folks here know I am no fan of reviews. No matter how glowing they may be IMO they simply aren't discreet & take away a ladies control over the information that's out there about her business. Given the nature of what we are engaging in that is simply not cool.

Then when a gentleman(?) throws up a critical review, no matter his reason or how respectful he may or may not try to be it cuts deep. No matter how thick skinned a lady may be she is human & to be judged negatively over something so intimate & personal inevitably is bound to leave a scare.

I have found an effective way to prevent these types of reviews is to make sure before even scheduling that there is a genuine attraction. On both sides. I look at both the gent's review & posting history. This gives me an idea of the type of ladies he is drawn to as well as whether or not he is the type of man whose company I will enjoy.  

Then there's the phone call. I always require a phone conversation. I want to hear their tone of voice. Find out if we have genuine commonalities, expectations, motivations & such. If at any point during our chat my stomach ties up I decline the appointment without questioning my instincts. Gut instincts are rarely wrong & if I can't get through a brief conversation without feeling uncomfortable it will inevitable affect our time together in a not so nice way.

This isn't fool proof but has worked more often than not.  

I'm sure this information doesn't take away the hurt you & other ladies have felt in response to a negative review but hopefully it will help you in the future to keep such reviews to a minimum.  

A thousand hugs & kisses,

Leigh-Ann

Hi, I have a new review which is total bull crap lol. The session went south due to said client being aggressive (he was also 10 minutes late). Yes I made him leave 5 minutes early due to feeling completely uncomfortable. I even offered him $20 back. Anyways, I believe reviews are not discreet and its bizarre how an individual can say whatever they please and not include what they have done on their behalf. It makes me sick, I feel for every provider whom has become victim to false reviews. I understand this is part of the game, but there should be something we can do to either remove the review or have the full story included. I just dont want to be apart of them any longer if nothing can be done. :)  

Any advice on how to be removed the review or be removed from this site would be greatly appreciated.

He had similar behavior with me a while back...  
Mr. Shitty , you're going to push around the wrong person someday...  
If you need to talk PM me..  

 
Xxxooooo Nicole

That's hilarious, I'm sorry he treated you in an unpleasant way. If there are any other providers out there that has been a victim of Mr. Shitty please email me.  

Nicole I sent you an private message.

This is the type of person who refers to a gentleman who actually likes women as White Knights.  My question to them; is the opposite of White Knight - Asshole, women hater, wife beater or is it  Mr. Shitty...  

Ladies, for your sake and everyone else's don't just throw them out let others know.  We can do that in a review, you should be able to do the same.  In a serious case there is "providers with something to hide"  where is the "men who have something to hide"  section.  It could be and should be available to providers only, does not necessarily have to include details just a rating system that would serve as a warning to protect the ladies.  

just say'en

If you're attracted to slim girls don't book with us curvy ones.
If you want someone who's model material don't book with a 7.
And so on & so forth...
You aren't responsible for his nasty attitude Chanel. Not at all.
it's not rocket science to the many sweet & kind gentlemen here that some guys are just hateful towards women in general and they'll never be happy .
My honest opinion is that reviews like that are useless to other hobbyists and I'd like to believe that when they see fellow hobbyists choose to abuse their privileges, see those who seem to think we're subhuman as nothing more than a cheap crybaby with an axe to grind.
Also,
As if a half hour session with a massage lady is enough to do everything under the sun when in reality we all know that more often than not, we just can't .  
 Know what I mean ?  - V

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But, they don't.  They see women as inferior and in need of protection.  Never straight forward with their motives and pretend to be better then others.  

White Knights are the most disgusting and pathetic group there are.

I can't express how deeply sorry I am. Catch this consoling hug I'm sending your way.  

Many folks here know I am no fan of reviews. No matter how glowing they may be IMO they simply aren't discreet & take away a ladies control over the information that's out there about her business. Given the nature of what we are engaging in that is simply not cool.

Then when a gentleman(?) throws up a critical review, no matter his reason or how respectful he may or may not try to be it cuts deep. No matter how thick skinned a lady may be she is human & to be judged negatively over something so intimate & personal inevitably is bound to leave a scare.

I have found an effective way to prevent these types of reviews is to make sure before even scheduling that there is a genuine attraction. On both sides. I look at both the gent's review & posting history. This gives me an idea of the type of ladies he is drawn to as well as whether or not he is the type of man whose company I will enjoy.  

Then there's the phone call. I always require a phone conversation. I want to hear their tone of voice. Find out if we have genuine commonalities, expectations, motivations & such. If at any point during our chat my stomach ties up I decline the appointment without questioning my instincts. Gut instincts are rarely wrong & if I can't get through a brief conversation without feeling uncomfortable it will inevitable affect our time together in a not so nice way.

This isn't fool proof but has worked more often than not.  

I'm sure this information doesn't take away the hurt you & other ladies have felt in response to a negative review but hopefully it will help you in the future to keep such reviews to a minimum.  

A thousand hugs & kisses,

Leigh-Ann

that providers can (and do) weed out the unsavory by looking at reviews and posting history,   IMO, these type of threads do a disservice to providers.     I am likely to take some heat on that opinion but I do believe their are others with similar beliefs and feelings about this.   My fear is that  unsavory and unsafe hobbyists who are posted about on the local boards by providers will just change their handles,  emails, hobby names, and phone numbers to "hide" their reputations as dirtbags and fucktards.    We have seen it before.  

There are ways to get the message to other providers -- namely, PO Boards on this site and others, blacklists, & the tried-and-true back channeling to other providers.    I know there are many who are not on the PO Board but all it takes is one email or PM to a reviewed, established and trusted provider to get the ball rolling and the word out.

Belinda

And I would encourage the OP to reach out to some of the few providers that still post on this board to make connections so you are in their loop.  Good luck :)

Those who commented thank you. Lchase can I perhaps have your email? There are some things I'd rather chat about on a private level.

I don't have VIP so I'm not sure what he has said about other providers. Unfortunately TER doesn't accept my card or my bank doesn't allow? Therefore I'm unable to get VIP for the time being.  

Ladies PM sent

FYI Chanel, the reviewer has never reviewed until he has reviewed you. In other words no credibility and no one cares. You almost don't have to ask for it to be removed, anyone that can click the reviewer's name will laugh at his lack of experience and reviews. I think most will agree, especially since you don't have a run of bad reviews.  

Reviewers get unofficially graded, as well as providers on this board. I follow certain reviewers that I trust. Who do you imagine trusts this guy with one review?  
 

Posted By: ChanelJade
I don't have VIP so I'm not sure what he has said about other providers. Unfortunately TER doesn't accept my card or my bank doesn't allow? Therefore I'm unable to get VIP for the time being.  
   
 Ladies PM sent

He is fearless in his appointment making and reports back with an ass ton of honest reviews.  What more can you ask for in a contributor to this board?

From what I have heard, it is not an easy process as TER does require something to back up your claim besides what you say but you can try it.

Beyond that he is a first time reviewer whose review is at odds with your others.  He lacks credibility.

Even when you have solid proof they won't look at it or leave it up anyway in some cases which to me is ridiculous.

My one very bad experience with a reviewed provider--currently EXTREMELY highly reviewed in terms of numbers of reviews--led to me joining the board after being urged to do so by members here.  That review was dropped like a rock after I assume she complained--as was one other nearly identical review (for both of us it was a rip off with threats involved)...so perhaps something has changed.  At the time she probably had mere dozens of reviews, not hundreds.  But it was my first review.

I suspect that the old pattern of trust by TER relying mostly on how new to TER the provider or the reviewer is more than anything else still holds true in he said/she said cases.   Ideally this site serves as a warning resource for both providers and users, and given the nature of the "proof" TER likely deals with it's probably no surprise they don't always get it right.  

Chanel I wouldn't worry about that one review dissuading experienced clients.

It will be very hard to get the review removed because the meeting actually took place and right or wrong that is the reviewers take on what happened.  
The best thing you can do is keep giving the best service you can and as you get more good reviews his will become even less relevant. As it is his review is already so out of line with your other reviews it shouldn't have much effect on your business.  
Don't dwell on it because it's mostly out of your hands. Put it in your past and enjoy meeting the many guy who appreciate and enjoy what you do.

Ter needs proof that he was aggressive, not sure how in the world that is possible. This site isn't very provider friendly. How can I delete my profile if that's the route it ventures to?  

Are there review sites where I can have reviews but not any of the "juicy details" perhaps the site just says I'm safe? I won't recommend this site to anyone, I'm not surprised at all by the lack of providers whom participate here. Not very wise for business to not help the ones make this site. Without providers clearly this site wouldn't excist. I hope enough of them come together and want nothing to do with this site. I'm sure there's something better out there?

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Posted By: ChanelJade
I'm not surprised at all by the lack of providers whom participate here. Not very wise for business to not help the ones make this site. Without providers clearly this site wouldn't excist. I hope enough of them come together and want nothing to do with this site. I'm sure there's something better out there?
Top of the page, just look up there:

Total Reviews: 1,195,337

Seems like there are plenty of providers who participate just fine.

Look through the search bar up there, and you will find many threads indicating lack of providers engaging in the discussion boards.

;)

Posted By: Maruyama
Posted By: ChanelJade
I'm not surprised at all by the lack of providers whom participate here. Not very wise for business to not help the ones make this site. Without providers clearly this site wouldn't excist. I hope enough of them come together and want nothing to do with this site. I'm sure there's something better out there?
   
 Top of the page, just look up there:  
   
 Total Reviews: 1,195,337  
   
 Seems like there are plenty of providers who participate just fine.

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Posted By: ChanelJade
Look through the search bar up there, and you will find many threads indicating lack of providers engaging in the discussion boards.  
   
 ;)
There is a world of difference between providers not participating on the boards and not participating with TER in general, which is how you characterised your original comment that I replied to. It's also why I mentioned the number of reviews on the site; it's a number that has zero correlation to provider activity on the message boards, and instead relates to, as you described it, participation on TER.

If you want to keep telling yourself that you aren't in a very small minority of providers who start with TER and then dislike it/leave soon thereafter, fine, I'm not going to stop you. I would imagine neither would any potential client you might get from here. Nor would the ladies that represent competition for your business. It's your life.

Posted By: Maruyama
Posted By: ChanelJade
Look through the search bar up there, and you will find many threads indicating lack of providers engaging in the discussion boards.  
     
  ;)
   
 There is a world of difference between providers not participating on the boards and not participating with TER in general, which is how you characterised your original comment that I replied to. It's also why I mentioned the number of reviews on the site; it's a number that has zero correlation to provider activity on the message boards, and instead relates to, as you described it, participation on TER.  
   
 If you want to keep telling yourself that you aren't in a very small minority of providers who start with TER and then dislike it/leave soon thereafter, fine, I'm not going to stop you. I would imagine neither would any potential client you might get from here. Nor would the ladies that represent competition for your business. It's your life.
You & those like you boil my blood!  

This young lady is hurting. DO YOU GET THAT?! Put yourself in her shoes. She is young & new to the review boards. She got slammed HARD in her most recent review from a total douche bag early on in her career as a provider. Perhaps that douche is you hiding like a pussy behind that stupid alias of yours? Hmmmm......

She came to this board trusting participants could & would offer support & guidance. Thank god some of us were willing to provide that for her but lo & behold, as usual, the misogyny or hateful provider (which ever you are) has to jump at the chance to bully the new kid. PFFT!

She tried to address the issue with TER & failed to get the response she had hoped for. Another slap in the face for her. So now she is venting. BIG DEAL! I'd like to see how you would react under these circumstances. Don't you dare tell me you wouldn't be hurting & piping mad. JUST DON'T!  

People here will validate that provider interaction (on this board anyway) HAS in fact dropped. Substantially I might add. Why? Because of ASS HATS LIKE YOU!  

That is all

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Posted By: LChayse
 
 You & those like you boil my blood!  
   
 This young lady is hurting. DO YOU GET THAT?! Put yourself in her shoes. She is young & new to the review boards. She got slammed HARD in her most recent review from a total douche bag early on in her career as a provider. Perhaps that douche is you hiding like a pussy behind that stupid alias of yours? Hmmmm......  
   
 She came to this board trusting participants could & would offer support & guidance. Thank god some of us were willing to provide that for her but lo & behold, as usual, the misogyny or hateful provider (which ever you are) has to jump at the chance to bully the new kid. PFFT!  
   
 She tried to address the issue with TER & failed to get the response she had hoped for. Another slap in the face for her. So now she is venting. BIG DEAL! I'd like to see how you would react under these circumstances. Don't you dare tell me you wouldn't be hurting & piping mad. JUST DON'T!  
   
 People here will validate that provider interaction (on this board anyway) HAS in fact dropped. Substantially I might add. Why? Because of ASS HATS LIKE YOU!  
   
 That is all!  
   
 
You misunderstand entirely. I realise this is a crappy situation to find yourself in and I have and had no intention of making any comment about it - which is why I haven't. I've only talked about Chanel's comments about provider participation here and that's all I intend to talk about. The nature of the review or admin's handling of it is not something I have addressed or will address.

I was referring to the attitude that I see all too often from new users of this site, both male and female. Either a review doesn't get approved and said reviewer has to take to the boards to complain that their review didn't get posted and as such the system should be like x/y/z idea they have, or a girl can't get a review removed for whatever reason and then insists that the site is awful and there must be better, or things must change, or whatever. If you're a new user here and something doesn't go your way, it appears the very first step must be to call out the staff, say the site is terrible, complain, or all of the above.  

It never seems to occur to anyone that has either situation happen to them that decisions are made based on a great deal of past experience and knowledge, and are not meant as some personal attack on your individual character or credibility. Admin can only act upon the information that is available to them, which, in these situations, is always incredibly limited.

The site has been around for 15 years. Chanel has been using it for 15 seconds. Things are not perfect, clearly, but they are this way for a reason, and those reasons are not going to change via the venting of those who haven't been here long enough to know up from down. If you don't like the answers you get from admin, there is no obligation to stay here, but the idea that you can come in and either demand change or let loose a rallying cry for others to abandon the site for something better makes *my* blood boil, especially when this site, amongst many other things, provides you with free advertising and publicity.  

Last time I checked, no one was obligated to use the site.

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LChayse,
You're just ready to 100% believe the provider in this case? That the reviewer is the bad guy? Isn't it possible it's the other way around?

WK make my blood boil.

Posted By: LChayse
 
   
Posted By: Maruyama
Posted By: ChanelJade
Look through the search bar up there, and you will find many threads indicating lack of providers engaging in the discussion boards.    
       
   ;)
 
     
  There is a world of difference between providers not participating on the boards and not participating with TER in general, which is how you characterised your original comment that I replied to. It's also why I mentioned the number of reviews on the site; it's a number that has zero correlation to provider activity on the message boards, and instead relates to, as you described it, participation on TER.  
     
  If you want to keep telling yourself that you aren't in a very small minority of providers who start with TER and then dislike it/leave soon thereafter, fine, I'm not going to stop you. I would imagine neither would any potential client you might get from here. Nor would the ladies that represent competition for your business. It's your life.
   
 You & those like you boil my blood!  
   
 This young lady is hurting. DO YOU GET THAT?! Put yourself in her shoes. She is young & new to the review boards. She got slammed HARD in her most recent review from a total douche bag early on in her career as a provider. Perhaps that douche is you hiding like a pussy behind that stupid alias of yours? Hmmmm......  
   
 She came to this board trusting participants could & would offer support & guidance. Thank god some of us were willing to provide that for her but lo & behold, as usual, the misogyny or hateful provider (which ever you are) has to jump at the chance to bully the new kid. PFFT!  
   
 She tried to address the issue with TER & failed to get the response she had hoped for. Another slap in the face for her. So now she is venting. BIG DEAL! I'd like to see how you would react under these circumstances. Don't you dare tell me you wouldn't be hurting & piping mad. JUST DON'T!  
   
 People here will validate that provider interaction (on this board anyway) HAS in fact dropped. Substantially I might add. Why? Because of ASS HATS LIKE YOU!  
   
 That is all!  
   
 

Sure, I believe I misinterpreted my point (I may get into further details later). I didn't read your entire post (at the park occupied by keeping my flowing dress from revealing my see through panties) I don't tend to participate in off putting conversations. ;)

Posted By: Maruyama
Posted By: ChanelJade
Look through the search bar up there, and you will find many threads indicating lack of providers engaging in the discussion boards.  
     
  ;)
   
 There is a world of difference between providers not participating on the boards and not participating with TER in general, which is how you characterised your original comment that I replied to. It's also why I mentioned the number of reviews on the site; it's a number that has zero correlation to provider activity on the message boards, and instead relates to, as you described it, participation on TER.  
   
 If you want to keep telling yourself that you aren't in a very small minority of providers who start with TER and then dislike it/leave soon thereafter, fine, I'm not going to stop you. I would imagine neither would any potential client you might get from here. Nor would the ladies that represent competition for your business. It's your life.

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What I would do is..Wait, you were at a park on a windy day? In a dress with see through panties?   What were we talking about

I think this site exists because of reviews.  Reading all reviews is the only feature that requires a VIP membership and the VIP membership is  the only part of the site that may require users to pay money to the operators of this website.  The reviews are the site.  The discussion boards are simply another feature to keep members interested.  The site is set up for clients to post "reviews" of providers they have seen.  Providers have their own way to share information about clients.  Yes, both the reviews and board posts are wrought with all shades of shadiness.  But it is what it is.  Experienced people know how to navigate the BS and new members need to watch, listen, learn and research.  I understand you are upset.  There is a world of providers who come and go who have nothing to do with this site.  There are others yet who may have signed up but never say a word on the discussion boards.  There are providers who are active participants.  I can't understand why a provider wouldn't want a presence on TER, if only to never actively participate.  Don't you want to know what people are saying about you and others?  Knowledge is power.  Don't you want to advertise for free?  Do what you think is best for you personally and for your business.

I respect your opinion, in my opinion they should make the site fair.    Situations like this should be looked into and solved fairly. But it is what it is, I'm over it...I cannot dwell on what I cannot fix.  

It would sure be interesting to see reviews of the men, the gentlemen and ones to stay far away from.  

Posted By: Wongbater
I think this site exists because of reviews.  Reading all reviews is the only feature that requires a VIP membership and the VIP membership is  the only part of the site that may require users to pay money to the operators of this website.  The reviews are the site.  The discussion boards are simply another feature to keep members interested.  The site is set up for clients to post "reviews" of providers they have seen.  Providers have their own way to share information about clients.  Yes, both the reviews and board posts are wrought with all shades of shadiness.  But it is what it is.  Experienced people know how to navigate the BS and new members need to watch, listen, learn and research.  I understand you are upset.  There is a world of providers who come and go who have nothing to do with this site.  There are others yet who may have signed up but never say a word on the discussion boards.  There are providers who are active participants.  I can't understand why a provider wouldn't want a presence on TER, if only to never actively participate.  Don't you want to know what people are saying about you and others?  Knowledge is power.  Don't you want to advertise for free?  Do what you think is best for you personally and for your business.

Your profile will be removed along with all your reviews.  No future reviews will be allowed.  You won't be allowed to post on any of the boards; in fact discussing you at all won't be allowed.  With TER, it is an all or nothing proposition.

One thing you should understand though is what the origin and purpose of TER is.  It is a site primarily focused on allowing hobbyists to exchange information about providers primarily in the form of reviews but also through the discussion boards and the PM system.  The essential idea is to allow hobbyists to figure out who they want to see and who they don't want to see.  There are some areas that are more for the providers, such as the provider only board and the ad boards but the primary intent is to help the hobbyists.

It is an imperfect system of course and can be difficult for newcomers to deal with.  Heck it can be difficult for people who have been on it for years to deal with.  It is important to develop somewhat of a thick skin if you plan to actively participate here.

With out concrete evidence and I don't personally know either of you, who's to say what is the real truth.  Maybe your lying and maybe he's lying.

Posted By: ChanelJade
Hi, I have a new review which is total bull crap lol. The session went south due to said client being aggressive (he was also 10 minutes late). Yes I made him leave 5 minutes early due to feeling completely uncomfortable. I even offered him $20 back. Anyways, I believe reviews are not discreet and its bizarre how an individual can say whatever they please and not include what they have done on their behalf. It makes me sick, I feel for every provider whom has become victim to false reviews. I understand this is part of the game, but there should be something we can do to either remove the review or have the full story included. I just dont want to be apart of them any longer if nothing can be done. :)  
   
 Any advice on how to be removed the review or be removed from this site would be greatly appreciated.

To be removed from the site as you had originally asked, you can request from TER to be delisted. Be aware, however, that if you decide to return, your past reviews will return also.  

Posted By: ChanelJade
Hi, I have a new review which is total bull crap lol. The session went south due to said client being aggressive (he was also 10 minutes late). Yes I made him leave 5 minutes early due to feeling completely uncomfortable. I even offered him $20 back. Anyways, I believe reviews are not discreet and its bizarre how an individual can say whatever they please and not include what they have done on their behalf. It makes me sick, I feel for every provider whom has become victim to false reviews. I understand this is part of the game, but there should be something we can do to either remove the review or have the full story included. I just dont want to be apart of them any longer if nothing can be done. :)  
   
 Any advice on how to be removed the review or be removed from this site would be greatly appreciated.

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