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Unless someone can PM you, these sort of rescue groups are rarely discussed in public. You get to them by going to get the traditional help, and someone calling you after the fact saying "the cops can't help you, but we can." For all we know, you could be the stalker.

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first thank you for reading this.I'm wondering with such a wide range of people if someone could help answer a question for me. if anyone has any kind of information for a woman who attempted to escape and abusive situation with her  children but that person found out where she lives again, and the only way this woman feels like her life can be saved is to escape far out of state.. would anybody know of any resources what does anybody know of anything that a person that situation could do... thank you and I appreciate your time this is very important matter if anyone has any information to give I was so greatly appreciate it.and everyone be safe goodnight

Highly recommend you get appropriate professional help from law enforcement, lawyers, etc.  No advice you get here will come with the same authority or expertise.  

Be cautious transporting kids over state lines...if custody is in play...I belive that could seriously complicate things.  Check out the link I posted.  I just found it with a quick google search...but...I'm no expert on this stuff.  You really need to seek out pros on this kinda thing...especially if physical threats are imminent.

 
 

Posted By: TORRYD
first thank you for reading this.I'm wondering with such a wide range of people if someone could help answer a question for me. if anyone has any kind of information for a woman who attempted to escape and abusive situation with her  children but that person found out where she lives again, and the only way this woman feels like her life can be saved is to escape far out of state.. would anybody know of any resources what does anybody know of anything that a person that situation could do... thank you and I appreciate your time this is very important matter if anyone has any information to give I was so greatly appreciate it.and everyone be safe goodnight

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This site advertises on BP.  I know NOTHING about them.  Maybe they are awful, but you sound like you need help badly and maybe they could refer you to another group as appropriate.  Can anyone else comment on this link and tell TORRYD whether it is worth contacting them?

TORRYD524 reads

thanks I think only found that be for teens only.. thank you though

Deen463 reads

If they have a social worker on staff who cares?

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Seek out abuse shelters and/or organizations. They will have the best advice and info plus secured shelter for you and the kids. They can even help with legal forms and advocate for you. Most of these organizations even have lawyers.  

Yes,most if not, all states have made it illegal to take/move your kids out of state without the other parent's permission. However, there are ways around that such as getting an order from a judge, if you have family in another state and that's the only safe place to be (it's better to live with family in another state than one the streets in the same state as the dad). Remember that it's also about the welfare of the children ... If they are being abused as well then getting them to safety is more important than staying in the same state than the dad.  I am not say take off but I would get real legal advice first but not from police or just any lawyer, but from those with experience in abuse situations.

as it can vary from community to community.  I would discretely inquire at a women's shelter or hot-line.  Use a clean phone, a "hobby phone".  Or a community pubic health center.   You need to find the link BEFORE you make your move.  
Know where your valuables & documents are so you can grab them quickly.  Passports, license, credit cards, title to your car.  There is not a lot of room in shelters so don't take things you don't need.  Do not return to get your things with out a Police Escort.  Move money that is legitimately yours to another account in another bank.  Accumulate cash in a safe place where you can access.  
When the time is right, you'll have to make your move to a shelter or safe place.  Use their resources (lawyer) to file restraining orders & divorce or custody papers on an emergency basis.  

While this is a Physical Emergency it is also a Psychological & Legal Emergency.  It will seem overwhelming but things need to happen on each front, simultaneously.  She will need professional counseling.   A friend is a great thing but does not replace the professionals.  A professional councilor will NOT tell her what to do.  The councilor will help her to decide for herself what her right decision must be.  In her heart she already knows but there is a great conflict in accepting this truth.  

I was not physically threatened but I was emotionally & finically devastated.  It was her house, she acted out...  but would never say...  she wanted me gone.  After bankrupting me.  After I was out, I went to better councilor...  She went & told the councilor "she did not want to be married to me."  After pouring everything I had & was into the relationship that was pretty hard to hear.  But it was definitive.  

Wishing the best...  
HV

or even if not, hookersforjesus.net is a house that is for women who were once providers but want a new start...that means quitting the business.  

If she is being stalked, the people helping her that are underground (not the one I referenced) are not going to tell you or anyone else where they are located, because that puts the women at risk. Stranger things have happened than some psycho trying to find them and break into the safe house.  

If you know this guy's name, pass it along to me...there are ways of dealing with his kind. If her children are in danger, she needs to call CPS for help before they do it for her. The cops would not be a bad thought either.

TORRYD512 reads

thank you that's helpful he's not in Vegas she's in Milwaukee the situation is the man is verbally and emotionally abusive and it had happened over 7 years the past 3 years she's been trying to get away but she and where she moves he finds her that's why she thinks her only option is out of state.the thing is she's had the restraining order she's done that none of that works it doesn't stop him from coming and hurting her which then turns into a physical activity use and by the time you call the police may get there he's gone again the children may not be physically abused but I know it is emotionally and mentally damaging to them just to see the beauty that the mother is getting and the lady is also disabled so it's kind of know..but yeah something like that with someone that can be underground help her out that would be like her best option....I've tried everything I could looking for some information like that I couldn't come up with anything..I don't know if I'm looking in the wrong spot

Posted By: London Rayne
or even if not, hookersforjesus.net is a house that is for women who were once providers but want a new start...that means quitting the business.  
   
 If she is being stalked, the people helping her that are underground (not the one I referenced) are not going to tell you or anyone else where they are located, because that puts the women at risk. Stranger things have happened than some psycho trying to find them and break into the safe house.  
   
 If you know this guy's name, pass it along to me...there are ways of dealing with his kind. If her children are in danger, she needs to call CPS for help before they do it for her. The cops would not be a bad thought either.

Unless someone can PM you, these sort of rescue groups are rarely discussed in public. You get to them by going to get the traditional help, and someone calling you after the fact saying "the cops can't help you, but we can." For all we know, you could be the stalker.

If the restraining order has been violated, no wonder she is concerned for her safety.  I do ABSOLUTELY that she will have to utilize local resources but may have to go to a National Hotline to find them.  
I say again,  she needs her paper work, her restraining order, copies of Police reports, medical records if she's been injured.  Copies need to be somewhere safe where the offender can not destroy them.  Copies are cheap insurance.
I received First Responder training at one time.  Let me tell you, that she must document every violation.  An example given:  next door kids drives over your lawn...  after several times he wrecks your bushes.  Finally he hits your porch.  You call the Police.  So the cop says to start at the beginning & you explain how he's been using your lawn for a short cut etc.  The cop tells you that NONE of that COUNTS.  Because you did not report it promptly when it happened.  So now a year of harassment is a "First Offense".  
Even if the cops are too late, report it.  Speak to an officer or go to the Police Station to make a statement.  Get it on the record.  Keep a journal of these statements dates & times so they can be more easily recovered.    

Even if she relocates, there will be legal steps that must be followed.  

PS  copies of tax returns may be needed.  

Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
They'll also be able to refer her to local resources.

If no longer married & custody issues legally concluded, much easier to start over.  

Good points...  you do not want to scare kids but kids, in their innocence, can also blow up a plan.

Do you have some legal agreement that says you will not take the children out of state without the court or the other parent's permission? Moving out of state could make in violation of a court approved separation or custody agreement.
 It might be best to find a safe place in your state, and then get legal advice and support before moving out of state.

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