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GaviaImmer 542 reads
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Not all states recognize a Single Person LLC and the IRS treats an SP-LLC as a disregarded entity which pretty much means you are viewed as a Sole Proprietor to the IRS.

You do not file taxes the same way with both because you will have a separate Tax ID number for an LLC but again this will vary with states filing requirements. Some states might require you to file as a Sole Proprietor because you are an SP-LLC which basically means filling out an income/expense schedule with your personal tax returns filed under your SSN.

I highly suggest you consult a Certified Public Accountant before you proceed. Most accountants will not care much that you are an escort. An accountant will help you decide how best to organize based on your income, expenses and financial goals. He/she will also know how best to minimize your tax liability but also protect you from the IRS or your state in case you get audited.

Most full time escorts with significant income will organize as an LLC simply to keep their personal life separate and organized from their escort life.

UnderCoverLover12291 reads

Is there any real benefit for a provider to change her business structure from a sole proprietorship to an LLC?

I understand an LLC offers the individual protection from liabilities against the business.  But, in this business - is that even relevant???

What are the pros and cons of LLC vs. sole Propietorship (not in general) but specifically related to any and all ways they affect an independent escort?

Are there any tax benefits in choosing one over the other, and do you file taxes the same way with both?

Thanks for any input!

GaviaImmer543 reads

Not all states recognize a Single Person LLC and the IRS treats an SP-LLC as a disregarded entity which pretty much means you are viewed as a Sole Proprietor to the IRS.

You do not file taxes the same way with both because you will have a separate Tax ID number for an LLC but again this will vary with states filing requirements. Some states might require you to file as a Sole Proprietor because you are an SP-LLC which basically means filling out an income/expense schedule with your personal tax returns filed under your SSN.

I highly suggest you consult a Certified Public Accountant before you proceed. Most accountants will not care much that you are an escort. An accountant will help you decide how best to organize based on your income, expenses and financial goals. He/she will also know how best to minimize your tax liability but also protect you from the IRS or your state in case you get audited.

Most full time escorts with significant income will organize as an LLC simply to keep their personal life separate and organized from their escort life.

LLC's are recognized by some states so that the sole proprietor can shield his/her personal assets from the liabilities that may relate to their business. A sort of "corporate umbrella" without having to designate the business taxwise as an 1120 or 1120S.  

As you noted, in the escort biz, there's not much liability (as far as being sued for example) so having an LLC is just an unnecessary expense. However, since you file a Schedule C (one of the most scrutinized tax forms beside EITC), depending on your income, you might want to look into another option when you talk to a tax professional, the 1120 S. It's for small businesses and has a few benefits taxwise, but it also has additional expenses (like monthly/quarterly accounting; payroll; incorporation fees, etc.) that may make it not be worthwhile. For your specific tax scenario, please speak to a pro. Like attorneys, most will do an initial consult for free.  

As far as your other questions, if your state allows an LLC, there are no benefits taxwise unless you elect to file the LLC as an 1120S. Most people that have an LLC are sole proprietors and usually chose to file on their 1040. However, you can designate your LLC to be a corporation for tax purposes by filing Form 8832.  

You can read all about this on the IRS website IRS.gov -Choose the tab "Filing" (top left) & then on the left hand side of the page, choose the 2nd from the top, "Self-Employed & Small Businesses" then choose from the middle of the page the link "Business Taxes" there you'll find under "Income Tax" a link called "Business Structures"; finally, choose "Limited Liability Company" or if your state does not recognize LLC's, choose "S Corporations".

I know it seems like a lot but it's some necessary homework to maximize the time with the tax professionals you choose to consult. "Sole Proprietorships" are on that last page too.  

Good luck,
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Jinni

DAVEPHX496 reads

LLC unless you have maybe over $400,000 of taxable income are not worth it and often will be far more costly than just a sole prop.   Maybe if someone had a heart attack with you and wife sues for $1 million might have some protection but not likely in most States if a personal services contract basically with you.

You have to keep up corporate records, annual meetings, minutes the cost of State registration filings each year in addition to additional state and fed LLC tax returns or it will probably have no legal protection.  

Since even with a Sub S you have to pay reasonable compensation you wind up paying more in the combined FICA taxes between you and LLC vs SE tax of self employed.  Maybe you can get some Sub S income as a Sub S UTI (undistributed taxable income) to avoid but have to have paid in wages reasonable compensation.  Plus if its just you and for your services may wind up being a personal holding company with an even higher tax rate which is what other reply was kind of leading to.  

We have some of the lowest individual tax rates in the world and historically especially if under $400-$450k taxable.  Corp highest 35% rate is comparatively high but most large companies pay very low rates taking advantage of the many loopholes so overall corp burden is about average in the world with the largest paying lower rates than smaller typically, especially if multi-national.  

Decades ago I was a tax supervisor for a then "Big 8" CPA firm but now more involved in helping clients plan for the future not record the past (like taxes and auditing).

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Mr-Blonde480 reads

A single owner LLC is taxed as if they are a sole proprietor anyway, so there is no tax benefit of one over the other.  An LLC requires more fees to be paid to the state to register it in the first place, some states require annual fees just to keep it going, and pretty much all states require you to have a statutory agent which you would have to pay some annual fee to also.  So an LLC  would actually cost a bit more than a sole proprietorship if you factor in those expenses.  

As for individual protection against liabilities against the business, yes an LLC does all that in principle, but that would only apply if you are operating a real business under the name of the LLC, and everybody who does business with the LLC  knows that they are doing business with the LLC not the individual personally, and this would have to be evidenced by invoices, receipts, contracts, business cards, advertising, phone number listing in the phone book, websites, and all things of that nature that are relevant to your business always clearly state the name of your company the words "LLC" at the end. The LLC also has to maintain its own set of accounting, that is separate from the owner's personal money.  If you skimp on this stuff, then your LLC doesn't protect you, because someone would just claim that you are not really operating under the umbrella of your LLC anyway.  

Therefore an LLC isn't going to protect the personal assets of a provider who does all her business under her own name or pseudonym, who collects her fee in cash and who provides no receipts, who puts the money in her own pocket, who performs the service personally, and who does not appear to be acting as an employee or agent of another business.  

Aside from that, businesses that perform professional services (like a doctor or a lawyer) where you are relying on the individual's own professional skills, are not shielded by LLC structures as a general principle of law, which means that a prostitute probably wouldn't be shielded by an LLC either for that reason.  Another thing is that the owner of an LLC can't hide behind the shield of an LLC if the owner formed the LLC to engage in illegal activities (like prostitution).  An LLC would mean literally nothing in that case.  

In conclusion, an LLC would do absolutely nothing to benefit a provider in the scenarios that you asked.  

Posted By: UnderCoverLover1
Is there any real benefit for a provider to change her business structure from a sole proprietorship to an LLC?  
   
 I understand an LLC offers the individual protection from liabilities against the business.  But, in this business - is that even relevant???  
   
 What are the pros and cons of LLC vs. sole Propietorship (not in general) but specifically related to any and all ways they affect an independent escort?  
   
 Are there any tax benefits in choosing one over the other, and do you file taxes the same way with both?  
   
 Thanks for any input!

In addition to the above, in states like California, LLC are taxed based on gross revenue.  So in many instances this actually will lead to higher tax bill.  Aside from the issue of liability, the main purpose of an LLC is to show a loss which can then be used to offset other income on your tax return.

Mr-Blonde352 reads

If your only goal is to try to show a loss, you don't even need an LLC for that purpose, you could do that with a sole proprietor company, since the IRS looks at a single owner LLC as if it is a sole proprietorship anyway.  

If you are showing losses every year, eventually the IRS is going to start questioning whether or not you really are running a business, they will try to tell you that your losses are "hobby" related, not "business" related unless you can prove otherwise.  Because hobby losses (haha) can not offset your other income.  

Yea, to prove that you are in business, you need a business phone number, business cards, advertising of some kind, a website of some kind, a business bank account, a credit card machine, all of that crap that a business of your type would normally have, in order to convince the IRS that you are actually trying to run a business ...assuming that they ever ask.  If you are taking losses of hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for years and years, they will probably ask.  

Posted By: dontknowmuch
In addition to the above, in states like California, LLC are taxed based on gross revenue.  So in many instances this actually will lead to higher tax bill.  Aside from the issue of liability, the main purpose of an LLC is to show a loss which can then be used to offset other income on your tax return.

Many LLCs show annual losses, not forever but for a period of years.  However, without belaboring what is basically an academic point . . . the main point of my post was as to the OP's original question.  And this is one place the LLC may be different than a SP in their state - the actual way in which they might be taxed.

Posted By: Mr-Blonde
If your only goal is to try to show a loss, you don't even need an LLC for that purpose, you could do that with a sole proprietor company, since the IRS looks at a single owner LLC as if it is a sole proprietorship anyway.    
   
 If you are showing losses every year, eventually the IRS is going to start questioning whether or not you really are running a business, they will try to tell you that your losses are "hobby" related, not "business" related unless you can prove otherwise.  Because hobby losses (haha) can not offset your other income.    
   
 Yea, to prove that you are in business, you need a business phone number, business cards, advertising of some kind, a website of some kind, a business bank account, a credit card machine, all of that crap that a business of your type would normally have, in order to convince the IRS that you are actually trying to run a business ...assuming that they ever ask.  If you are taking losses of hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for years and years, they will probably ask.  
   
Posted By: dontknowmuch
In addition to the above, in states like California, LLC are taxed based on gross revenue.  So in many instances this actually will lead to higher tax bill.  Aside from the issue of liability, the main purpose of an LLC is to show a loss which can then be used to offset other income on your tax return.

Also, if the venture is deemed by audit to be a hobby instead of a business, the hobby losses/expenses would only allowed to the extent of hobby income, and would be reclassigied as a Miscellaneous Itemized Deduction. This could significantly increase your tax bill.

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