If you read a few threads on the forums, you will quickly find out that there is lot of overlap between providers and Sugar Babes. From a guy's prescriptive, we expect to pay in both cases, while providers will give you great service but limited time, the true SBs give a little more time and sometimes expected not to be the pros. Also, lots of men want to go around with their prize SBs hanging around shopping, eating out and traveling together. So while providers can be GFE, the SBs is the real GFE with more time and of course regular allowance.
I have a question....
Are there providers here who do both? Or is that something Sugar Daddies don't like? I would like to know more about the SB/SD world, PMs or replies I appreciate the info!
If you read a few threads on the forums, you will quickly find out that there is lot of overlap between providers and Sugar Babes. From a guy's prescriptive, we expect to pay in both cases, while providers will give you great service but limited time, the true SBs give a little more time and sometimes expected not to be the pros. Also, lots of men want to go around with their prize SBs hanging around shopping, eating out and traveling together. So while providers can be GFE, the SBs is the real GFE with more time and of course regular allowance.
I want to be a SB now!
So to try to answer your question and seeing you're based out of Vegas this will be a Vegas type of answer.....Yes,there's a few TER ladies that post in SA under different names. Now how do SD like it? Well it depends on the agreement...if the SB/SD have an "Exclusive Agreement" and he's fronting her 5 digits a month, then yeah he'd be bugged is she continued to do both. I knew of a few girls who got out of escorting because they found someone who would take care of them financially. But they usually come back in a year or so. But when they come back, all their bills have been paid and they start fresh, with the LV purses and CLB shoes....lol
Then you have the Simi-Exclusive Agreement, which the daddy can't fully financially take care of her. Usually the agreement is that she can keep her regulars. All her ads and reviews are poof, gone. That's what I'm in now, my favorite girl in Vegas is in a Semi but we'll still see each other when I'm in town...what a shame that the review got pulled cause I wrote a kick ass review of our time....but I'm seeing her next week so I got no beef with her arraignment...now her daddy?..I dunno.
Them you have your P4P SB who gets the allowance per date, SD's don't give a shit what she does, she might as well be a hooker....lol.
Most escort who post in P411, list Sugar Baby as an option that they're willing to look into....
But see your friend post below, she asked the same kinda of questions
Some of us SDs truly prefer the gift per visit type of arrangement. I do NOT want an exclusive arrangement with my SB because I don't want to be fully responsible for her maintenance nor do I want to commit myself to a regular visiting schedule nor do I want to limit myself to only one playmate. To say that I "don't give a shit what she does, she might as well be a hooker" is completely wrong. I simply prefer to have non exclusive arrangements in which I am free to see other women and they are free to see other men.
She's free to see and get paid to see other men, again cool cause she does need to have some money. So what does that make her?. And you don't care who she sees, right? So where am I wrong? And if using the term "Hooker" offends you, oh well.And please don't refer to yourself as a SD. A true SD takes care of his SB to some degree more just paying her phone bill. Look I can see the stigma of labeling all of this hooker/John shit, and if it makes you feel better then have it your way, You're SD and she's a SB...whatever. But you're a John and she's a...Just trying to keep it real.
As some noted above, this is a NSA arrangement, more GFE than a normal provider, clock goes away, and usually (though not always) including a significant social component. There are all sorts of ladies who want SDs, including a lot who would fiercely declare they are not providers in any way, and they are not being paid for sex. Not so much, but it is how they feel. At the other extreme, there are women on SA who are absolutely providers, just selling on that platform. They host, they book private dates all the time, and do not want to waste time on social stuff. The main differences are a somewhat lower price point, and a much more flexible clock - one usually just pays to see them, not for an hour, 90 minutes or whatever. You play until you are done.
Unlike my friend above, I strongly disagree with the point about exclusivity or not being solely a function of how you get paid. Jealousy and possessiveness exist at all price points and with all arrangements - they are a function of the individual, not the money or form of payment. Some people get NSA, some people do not. Of course, if you pay someone enough that they can stop seeing anyone else, they probably will, but not because he demands it or she wants to be faithful. It is just easier. Of course, just like with providers, a guy who pays a lot more can request and get a lot more, but whether that is exclusivity, BBFS, some other service or set of things, depends on the individual.
And there, my dear is the biggest difference. Each arrangement in the Sugar World is a unique arrangement between two people. It is much less standardized than with escorts, everything gets discussed and agreed upon, from how often you meet, what sex you do, where meetings occur, what you do together, how much is paid, and how you get paid. All of which takes time. The tradeoff for you is pretty clear - you lose a lot of marketing and overhead expenses, no longer need to screen, are off in a grey legal world that probably is mostly legal, and get treated a lot like a GF who can expect to be treated the way she likes both in private and public; in return you get a lower hourly rate, spend more time negotiating deals and meeting with potential SDs to see how it works, and end up seeing fewer guys (which is both better and worse).
I have a friend who has done tax returns for providers on and off for a while, and when I made the case to him that providers make a lot less money than SBs, he laughed at me and said it was not true for 90% of providers because of all their expenses. A SB with one rich daddy, or two or three decent ones, can easily net six figures and have a more predictable and comfortable lifestyle. But if you are netting more than that as a provider, and like the structure and distance from the clients of that situation, stay a provider.
Hope that helps.
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She's the one who told me about SA and that she had gotten some good dates off the site. So yes, there's overlap. Many of the guys on this forum have expressed disapproval when they find an obviously pro escort "masquerading" as a SB. Personally I don't mind one bit.
I have no problem at all with it. My big surprise, as I have said before, has been the degree to which she really wants this to be an SB arrangement, and not more like a LTR with a provider. It remains to be seen how it goes, though.
On the flip side, I had a SB-like arrangement set up with a semi-retired provider before I found SA and got a little distracted. Anyway, I am with you, SM, I do not care if a lady is a retired provider, an active one, and never was one. All that matters is how we click. And I expect to continue to see providers as providers from time to time. It all fits together nicely, IMO, if you just relax and enjoy it for what it is.
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I'd been trying for some time to see a provider that I found on TER, with no luck. It just never seemed to work out due to scheduling conflicts, screening delays, etc. But then I found her profile on SA and was able to immediately contact her. She responded and we set up a meeting in no time. She clearly was not looking for a true SD/SB relationship, and that was fine with me. I was just glad to finally connect with her.