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If you work alone, don't share anything do all your own stuff would a task force like that go after a single provider who travels and such ?  

 
Is there any such force working now in Phoenix

Are they involoved or is it just ind cities that do this?  
Can they just come arrest you without you making any apt with them because you have ads?  
Just wondering  
Payton

DAVEPHX1203 reads

About every six months or so has been massive joint raids by FBI and local police in major cities including Phoenix organized or started by the Cook Cty Ill Sheriff Dept.  

In some cities its not the "real" FBI but local police assigned FBI status for the purpose of the raids so can bring federal trafficking charges (if coerced its severe trafficking vs consenting adults just regular trafficking.  

They arrest maybe 1000 under the sham of children and trafficking but find only a few under aged and alleged "pimps" which are often just boyfriends, drivers or appointment setters.  

It is a huge money scam to get grants and fund the rescue industry like Catholic Charities in Phoenix.  

If  you have appt setter, driver, 2 gals sharing a phone or incall or massage parlor, agency it is often charged as a criminal enterprise felony with up to 10+ years potentially in prison and a life long felony record

If you work alone, don't share anything do all your own stuff would a task force like that go after a single provider who travels and such ?  

 
Is there any such force working now in Phoenix

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Posted By: pp001
 If you work alone, don't share anything do all your own stuff would a task force like that go after a single provider who travels and such ?  
  Is there any such force working now in Phoenix  ?  
   
If work alone no criminal enterprise felony.  But 15 days minimum mandatory consecutive for ad with GFE etc or say the wrong thing to a undercover on phone or when meet, or catch a client coming out of your place or hotel room and scared into telling about you if you offerred anything sexual for money.

Or, Project Rose choice if first arrest to go do six months of rehabilitation by Catholic Charities group . About every six months Project Rose big weekend 3 day roundups to the "hooker fair" at Bethany Bible Church to be offered the six month rehab to avoid jail since you are deemed a victim since no women would choose sexwork willingly is the attitude.  

Risk to any individual companion low since so many but LE main source is ads  and reviews on private boards...like.... ah....  

Last Project Rose announced day before on local TV - great for the fund raising to "save the prostitutes" industry.  Otherwise raids by local LE sparadic and of course don't know about until after done.   latest trick is to use non local cell phones to call from tricking you to think they are coming to Phoenix like on business.  Often give references fake of known escorts but last time the references were often from long ago retired escorts.

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Posted By: pp001
Are they involoved or is it just ind cities that do this?  
 Can they just come arrest you without you making any apt with them because you have ads?  
 Just wondering  
 Payton
Yes often done in Phoenix for solicitation if sexual terms used.  A jury in Scottsdale years ago convicted an escort solely on GFE on ad and police have used this many times.   Reviews are compiled in evidence books also, although would be hard to introduce at trial but usually included in Grand Jury indictments as a reason.

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Posted By: pp001
Are they involoved or is it just ind cities that do this?    
  Can they just come arrest you without you making any apt with them because you have ads?    
  Just wondering    
  Payton
   
 Yes often done in Phoenix for solicitation if sexual terms used.  A jury in Scottsdale years ago convicted an escort solely on GFE on ad and police have used this many times.   Reviews are compiled in evidence books also, although would be hard to introduce at trial but usually included in Grand Jury indictments as a reason.  
My ads are quite tame...
I dont use sexual terms in ads and never say gfe.  
If you don't even do many ads but are posted in these boards and on nice ad places such as Eros , City Vibe Az Meeting place and Verify Super Hard. No pun intended.  Can they then just show up or mail us a citation for having any ads?  
I sometimes worry if you are a difficult target such as that if they will make the effort to come get you

DAVEPHX831 reads

Posted By: pp001
 
   
 My ads are quite tame...  
 I dont use sexual terms in ads and never say gfe.  
 If you don't even do many ads but are posted in these boards and on nice ad places such as Eros , City Vibe Az Meeting place and Verify Super Hard. No pun intended.  Can they then just show up or mail us a citation for having any ads?  
 I sometimes worry if you are a difficult target such as that if they will make the effort to come get you ?  
 
Ads like yours from what I've seen are very low risk.  Nude pictures, "companionship", modeling etc without any sexual terms should be no basis for solicitation bust - where they can issue a ticket or arrest you if find address by coming to home as they have done for some with explicit ads with sex related abbreviations.

With the zillions of ads in Phoenix and other aggressive cities individual risk is low but I know too many that have been arrested.  But again you have to offer something sexual directly in ad or on phone.

Just today getting e-mails of cop calls almost for sure in Phoenix, trying to trick companions from saying the wrong thing on calls.

You may have heard this story before but in the Temple bust police report very detailed report of cop laying in bed with a gal but unable to get her to say the wrong thing no matter how hard he tried.  Was very honest and detailed in police report and no prostitution bust.  Sadly still charged for mere association with criminal enterprise (allegedly Temple).    So also have to work alone to be safe from felony charges

Yet again in your case very low risk from what I've seen of you :)

PSEguy147705 reads

If she advertise as a wife experience and render it, she may not gotten in trouble. The Arizona Supreme Court already legalizes live in escort services. The wife experience include domestic services like house cleaning, laundry, cooking, yard work, etc. It is legal to pay for a wife experience package in Arizona. It is illegal to sell individual sex acts which is not packaged.

As far as my knowledge goes the wife experience doesnt include sex....

 Isn't that why we have a job? JK lol

Payton

RonMexico649 reads

I would just go home. This guys off his meds or something.

PSEguy147802 reads

Yes. The FBI going to spy on escorts to find sex trafficking victims. The FBI can get involve because escorts are trafficked across state line.  

 

Posted By: pp001
Are they involoved or is it just ind cities that do this?  
 Can they just come arrest you without you making any apt with them because you have ads?  
 Just wondering  
 Payton
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DAVEPHX762 reads

Consenting adults across State lines is Mann act violation of someone hires etc.  But using the Internet or phone is interstate bringing in FBI jurisdiction travel not needed.  And of course trafficking includes consenting adults with no coercion (if coerced is extreme trafficking).

to be hard ass.  Others just pick off the careless in occasional sweeps or stings.  You really need to know your local jurisdiction & where they fall in the spectrum.  Pheonix is KNOWN for being hard ass.

escorts but not arrest them under the Mann act which cover those importing, helping to import  and conspiring to import persons for prostitution, but not the person.  Read the Statute.  Every guy who sends money across state lines for the hooker to com visit him is helping to transport.

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