I have heard these tales from a handful of POT SBs whose SDs wanted a live-in with no rent and some (meager) allowance and some sideline fringe benefits. It's a very tough path on the ladies' side too. Completely in agreement!
Could give me a some info & tips on what it takes to be a SB? Thanks!
Hi SiennaMarie! If you already have experience as an escort/provider you really only need to focus on the differences. A SB does not watch the clock since there's no by-the-hour feature to Sugar Dating. Your date will progress in a natural way until you are both ready to depart. IF your arrangement is of the gift-per-visit type, your SD will give you some $$ at the end of the date, or whenever it feels right to him, NOT always within 5 minutes of meeting (which is the norm when escorting). Establishing boundaries with your dates is a bit more deliberate than with escorting. Escorting is more anonymous. You will not be able to use typical tools to screen your dates in the Sugar World, tools such as P411 or TER White List. But you will be able to meet him in advance for coffee and check out the vibe. So it takes more time and effort to ensure your safety. There's much more I could say, but I just dropped my 19yo SB at the airport for a morning flight she had to catch to go visit another
SD! She wore me out last night, in the best possible way. Come back with more follow up questions. I'm sure the other Wise SDs here will jump in with more advice for you.
SD! She wore me out last night, in the best possible way. Come back with more follow up questions. I'm sure the other Wise SDs here will jump in with more advice for you.
The delivery of the gift is what ever you two agree upon (before, middle, or end).
Lisa Lang is the provider currently here on TER whereas Lisa Ling is the documentarian and journalist who is currently with CNN. It is obvious to me that the former has made a play on the latter's real name, perhaps after watching that SD/SB documentary on CNN.
The rest is pretty straight forward. It's just like being a hooker only now you can tell your friends. Mom and dad still don't understand.
I think I would make a great Sugarbaby but I honestly have been frightened off after running into a few men who tried to run game on me & not come to a mutual, & some who were adumit about me living under them... I still would like to be free & pursue many things... Not sure if their many gentleman out there who understand that?
There are definitely men out there who understand that, and who actually prefer it, knowing their SB is not wholly dependent on them for their sole support. I feel delighted to be a part of 4 women's lives right now. I love the variety and love knowing that they could have most any guy they wanted but they choose to spend time with me. Just this morning, after a lovely night with one SB, I put her on a plane to go visit another man who's paying her airfare for her to visit him. She enjoys her independence and it works for me!
I have heard these tales from a handful of POT SBs whose SDs wanted a live-in with no rent and some (meager) allowance and some sideline fringe benefits. It's a very tough path on the ladies' side too. Completely in agreement!
Are you sure you are prepared to deal with a bunch of guys wanting a six hour date with you for about the same amount of money you currently get for around an hour of your time?
I am not saying that you won't find some "generous" guys in the Sugar Bowl, but just look at the many posts here to see what most TER guys at least has as far as expectations are concerned. Personally, I haven't paid more than $500 for an overnight to any woman I have met in the Sugar Bowl. I am not saying you won't get guys willing to pay more, but are you REALLY willing to take that big a cut in pay?
BTW, If I were in Vegas, I would probably pay your hourly rate to see you. I would not see you at your present rate in Texas where I live, but that's just because the rates are lower here. You are very fairly priced for the market you live in as a provider, but don't think those rates are going to translate into the Sugar Bowl.
...but with all due respect to all ladies of other ethnicities, she was a very hot (mostly in the bod but kind of average in the face who made up well) young (21 YO) caucasian girl with blonde hair (out of the bottle) and blue eyes. A workout freak, if you will...
She got bedded as couple of times for 1K (all nighter or the guy paid for the room and came back during day, in addition to the night before to get his nuts off again) but both SDs immediately and purportedly p*ssed back to 500 for the next potential overnighters because they had claimed that their previous SBs were happy with just half that (250). There are the 1K traps out there for the very, very haut babes but it will not last. Even the hookers in TJ at those high end establishments have the ability to earn up to 1.5K per day in Mek-Hee-Co if they're prepared to work the floor hard and go upstairs with a guy like 12+ times a day, even though the over all experience costs the Gringo John about 120-150 with room, board and p*ssy!
As our mutual friend lectured me recently when I was making the same point as you, if a SB has one or two SDs, paying her 4k in total per month, she is probably doing better than over 90% of providers. Keep in mind that while a provider gets paid more per hour, she also (usually) has a lot more expenses, including incall and advertising costs. Plus there is a legal risk which does not seem to exist in the SB world. So a SB making 4K may be netting as much as a provider who is grossing 5-6K. And...
In principle a SB has the ability to make it fit her schedule, not the other way around. Easier to have another job, or just do things when you want to do them. To my surprise, it also seems like SBs, even those who are also providers, want social outings, someone to take them out, show them stuff they would not otherwise see. This was a surprise to me. In a lot of ways, SB is a better lifestyle, IMO.
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Some of them of course include having sex with someone you might not be attracted to for money. Another is making a man feel good about himself. Another is most likely NOT being able to put this on your future resume. lol
Then there are some differences. If you genuinely like getting to know your clients beyond the BCD part of the job, being an SB might be for you. OTOH while there are SB's who get those lofty "allowances" the hookers like to talk about, the reality is you most likely are NOT going to get rich being the SB of only one guy.
I am sure many of the guys here will "try" to be helpful, but please keep in mind that most of the talk here has been from the male perspective of how to get the most out of the Sugar world while expending the least. Not exactly the perspective you were hoping to get I am sure.
I have seen a LOT of hookers on SA, making not even the slightest pretense of being anything other than P4P, but most of them seem to be charging a lot less than the typical TER provider and without the benefit of being able to screen in order to stay "safe" At the risk of chasing you out of here, I don't think I would recommend being an escort on an SB site, I think you will have a hard time making the same kind of living you could by advertising on sites like TER or P411 and your risks of getting "bad dates" go up considerably not being able to screen.
OTOH, if you don't mind having several "regulars" and not have to constantly be screening new clients and going through everything else required to be a "well reviewed TER provider" I can see how an SB could get herself several regular SDs, paying her in the $500 week range each and make herself a very comfortable 6 digit living seeing four guys, each on a weekly basis, without having to fuck several guys a day trying to make ends meet.
But I would like to also emphasize on the fact that although playing the hooker game on SA may not be financially as bountiful as being a real hooker on hooker sites, the actual screwing process is mostly conducted in person over something very trivial as coffee or lunch. Most real hookers (not the quasi wannabe types) would not waste their time on dinner dates, alcohol consumption (the proverbial LPR: Liquid Panty Remover) or worse. So in conclusion, it will take a bit of time to build up some regulars but if you're into some semblance of attraction, seeing the quasi John or your potential (POT) SD before letting him bone you for a fistful of $s may end up being your cuppa!
I have not heard or read about one single SA sting operation and if some prudences are applied to this method (do not overtly discuss the exchange of $$$ for sexual acts in your initial communications) any frivolous case like this will be just laughed at and tossed out of court (well maybe with some exceptions in some Bible Belt enclaves, who knows?!). I also think that the quasi SDs are typically from a better pool of your average Johns, but do NOT let this bring down your shields or pacify your spidy senses because there are also many creeps and potential rapists on SA (well documented in real life).
One last thing, IMO there's a lot more barebacking going on in the SD/SB paradigm per capita but then again I was not involved with the hooker scene for that long and I never, ever reached that level of comfort with a hooker whereby a bareback option was discussed/proposed. Also in the SD/SB world the only bareback which I would consider (with major trepidations and in the light of a recent blood test by both parties) would be through the backdoor with a long standing SB whom I guess over 99% chance that we're being exclusive ala BF/GF but with added financial benefits. I just will not do BB from the front not only because my wirings are still live, but I am also quite potent!
Cultivating a few of them could lead to a "nice" living, but that would be about the extent of it.
Sure there are some "success stories" from the perspective of the women, stories where they land an SD who not only gives them a $10 K a month "allowance" but wines, dines, and takes the SB on vacations and shopping sprees, but those guys are about as rare as guys willing to pay a hooker two grand an hour.
As for "busts" in the Sugar Bowl, I have only heard of one or two isolated incidents and they weren't initiated by LE, but rather forced onto LE as the result of jilted lovers getting their revenge after finding out what their BF/GF/Husband/Wife were up to and bringing it to the attention of LE with a demand that "something be done about it"
And I'm not sure how the SB/SD plays in Vegas although I have heard that it really doesn't so here we go.
Vegas is a transient city, they come and go so be prepared for a few texts,emails,phone conversation, and sending pictures..it'll take time and you'll come across the usual "Time wasters". I saw your hourly rate and sorry to say don't expect that in the SB/SD world. And as one poster suggested, do work out the allowance with his and your expectation. If it becomes an over the hill haggle, then bow out, it won't work. A little here and there is ok but you're not haggling over a car. And if he's a "True Daddy" he'll gracefully give you or place your allowance before the date. Get it out of the way, avoid that awkward feeling that will liger over your date.
So sign on to SA, use a different name. Use new pictures, the ones in your ad won't do it,sorry. There's a lot more but I hate typing all this shit. PM me...there's more.
Good Luck