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AlanaGreek 399 reads
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I can understand that aspect,  as I've said,  however really a pimp?  LMAO aren't they obsolete? Those people still exist?  Wow lol... They don't exist where I live.  

However,  as I stated,  I don't mind the starting out that's normal,  however I think it's pretty lack thinking to tell other gentlemen to not contact them for coming to see me. How would the ladies like it if gents who came to see them were told not to contact other ladies or be accused line that,  really if people don't want that,  why do it to others?  Out of fear?  Everyone has something to lose and someone to protect. I'm a mother,  I have scheduling and a career I'm working towards.   We are all in the same boat and to think otherwise...  

Well..   Isn't that short sighted,  isn't the goal of TER and other screening sites to create a safer feeling in the community?  Isn't the point of being here connecting all about building and establishing now positive experiences and relationships that can be built upon and trusted.  

If that's not the point them why is this board here?  Sometimes you can hear a cat screaming in heat and go to look then it's a peacock cawwing in the weekend morning hours to let you know the day has started.    

I thought communication was all about bridging those gaps, maybe I'm standing alone out on left field thinking these things.  Or maybe it's time for more positive things to happen in this fun love community.  Good things do happen and isn't it nice when they do.  

No matter what,  okay for fun,  enjoy life and find the beauty in as many things as possible.  Life is a gift. Every day upon ground is a blessing.

AlanaGreek1720 reads

Just kidding he he he, made you look!  

     We were all new at one point, right.

     I remember this Hobby being more welcoming. Since I've been back,  working on reestablishing myself,  it's been quite and interesting learning experience. Does anyone else recall what it's like to start over?  To work towards a positive goal, to,  put forth the effort,  the time,  the passion to be as open as possible,  get connected with RS2K again,  P411,  set up TER,  a website, put themselves out there.  Then to have people still act like its never enough. Sometimes if it quacks is a platypus peeps.

     Why is that,  why do people forget that it takes alot of work,  alot of time,  alot of everything to create a setting as much as possible that others can know they are safe only to have people who won't get on RS2K or P411 or TER attempt to pass judgement?

     Even a couple top tier ladies in this city have told clients when I asked for references not to use them again since I didn't have reviews, a few others accused myself of being a LE.  Really,   let's think about this,   would they actually put all the energy into the things I have or is it just fear speaking?  

     I know after being in the Hobby it can jade you,  however for those,  remember what it's like to start fresh and begin again.  Take it easy on the newer people,  some like myself are pretty damn awesome sauce style.  You got a chance,  someone helped you,  take a breath and release the fear.  Life can be so beautiful,  so much fun and do amazing.  To those of you who know who you are..  

     It's all good in the sexy party place.  Life should be spent every minute having as much fun as possible.  For the next minute may never come.  I wish you joy and glorious sexy parties! To those giving me grief, I get it, just chill it out, so not needed, wish you the best and truly just wish for everyone is t have as much amazing fun as possible, no matter who you visit with expect a great time and fun!

     Just my 2 cents anyway Happy Birthday to Me!  

Kiss Kiss  
Alana Greek

Can you enlighten all of us as to what triggered this post?  Not asking about specifics, just a little more details as to who is giving you grief, how is somebody not "taking it easy on the newer people", etc.  Thank you.

just was observing things and I think we all forget,  even I do from time  to time about starting out on a path and what it takes to get things going. Sometimes it's a blessing to be reminded of each step,  each day, the effort,  the drive,  the passion,   each little thing it takes to be open,  to allow, to be at ease,  feel the flow of what life brings and when you start off. I think at times we all get to jaded,  expecting the worse,  assuming like idiots, fear based opinions from previous experiences. When in truth,  there are so many beautiful things in everything, even being new.   It's simply being new again,  nothing more.  Everyone is new at something, shrugs,  doesn't mean bad things will happen,  just means newbie, again.  

 
     Well okay maybe it was the fact that the second lady told another gentleman not to contact her again to see her for using her as a reference or coming to see me.  Even though I'm on rs2k and p411.  I found their interaction with me and with me vastly different almost a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde  scenario.

It reminded me to always be helpful to other ladies just starting out,  that to help build a safer community that means doing just that.

Some "high end" or "established" ladies really do want to protect their clients, and have a tough time sending references to non established ladies with zero web presence is tough too. Sometimes you do have to chisel away in the beginning to gain a trail that will help people verify you. It's hard, but start ups for any business is hard, because you have to establish trust.

Not everybody's going to trust someone that easily, and you have to give people credit for not jumping at helping just anyone until they know exactly who they are helping. For instance, helping a girl out could mean a pimp is trying to get that help, not the actual girl, and who knows what's up in that situation.

It'll get better, stay patient. There's always sacrifices to be made in the beginning to establish a foundation. But it'll get better!! Keep working hard!

I can understand that aspect,  as I've said,  however really a pimp?  LMAO aren't they obsolete? Those people still exist?  Wow lol... They don't exist where I live.  

However,  as I stated,  I don't mind the starting out that's normal,  however I think it's pretty lack thinking to tell other gentlemen to not contact them for coming to see me. How would the ladies like it if gents who came to see them were told not to contact other ladies or be accused line that,  really if people don't want that,  why do it to others?  Out of fear?  Everyone has something to lose and someone to protect. I'm a mother,  I have scheduling and a career I'm working towards.   We are all in the same boat and to think otherwise...  

Well..   Isn't that short sighted,  isn't the goal of TER and other screening sites to create a safer feeling in the community?  Isn't the point of being here connecting all about building and establishing now positive experiences and relationships that can be built upon and trusted.  

If that's not the point them why is this board here?  Sometimes you can hear a cat screaming in heat and go to look then it's a peacock cawwing in the weekend morning hours to let you know the day has started.    

I thought communication was all about bridging those gaps, maybe I'm standing alone out on left field thinking these things.  Or maybe it's time for more positive things to happen in this fun love community.  Good things do happen and isn't it nice when they do.  

No matter what,  okay for fun,  enjoy life and find the beauty in as many things as possible.  Life is a gift. Every day upon ground is a blessing.

you are talking about something deeper than not providing references to newbies - it sounds like you came across a territorial provider. That happens to a lot of people, established and not - and is always a bummer.

About pimps:
I know I have chatted with a "new provider" a couple years back online to help her get started, and found out the entire time I was talking to her pimp. Not the woman. Learned my lesson. But providers also worry about spying wives too.  

Looking at your ad, you have a nice website... so you're obviously not a wife. I don't think they'd go through all of that trouble.

I can't condemn a lady for saying to the gentleman, "I'm sorry, but I am not sure who this girl is, and I cannot provide a reference". Being rude and mean about it is another story, and the guy is going to most likely choose the lady who was mature about it (you) - the next time.

it looks like you just put an ad up on the Ad board yesterday. Can I suggest, if you would like a review or two, to post a reply under your main ad post with the subject line - "Reviewers welcomed and encouraged"? That seems to help people get reviews started.

There are clients who like to write a girl's first review and TOFTT (Take One For The Team).

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I didn't know I was allowed to suggest reviews like that...  Lovely idea,  thank you very much.  

Wife? Lol I'm divorced however I don't think that's what you meant somehow hahaha

No, I know some wive I'm sure know how to develop a website, just looks like you know how to run an escort business. I would assume a lady isn't going to build an entire web presence knowing all the jargon

Twitter is great - helps people see you are actually a person involved, vs an informant, pimp, wife of someone you're asking a referral for, etc etc etc...  

Good luck on everything :D

Posted By: AlanaGreek
I didn't know I was allowed to suggest reviews like that...  Lovely idea,  thank you very much.    
   
 Wife? Lol I'm divorced however I don't think that's what you meant somehow hahaha

I'll take one for the team with Alana!!!!

Posted By: Courtney.Ova
you are talking about something deeper than not providing references to newbies - it sounds like you came across a territorial provider. That happens to a lot of people, established and not - and is always a bummer.  
   
 About pimps:  
 I know I have chatted with a "new provider" a couple years back online to help her get started, and found out the entire time I was talking to her pimp. Not the woman. Learned my lesson. But providers also worry about spying wives too.  
   
 Looking at your ad, you have a nice website... so you're obviously not a wife. I don't think they'd go through all of that trouble.  
   
 I can't condemn a lady for saying to the gentleman, "I'm sorry, but I am not sure who this girl is, and I cannot provide a reference". Being rude and mean about it is another story, and the guy is going to most likely choose the lady who was mature about it (you) - the next time.  
   
 it looks like you just put an ad up on the Ad board yesterday. Can I suggest, if you would like a review or two, to post a reply under your main ad post with the subject line - "Reviewers welcomed and encouraged"? That seems to help people get reviews started.  
   
 There are clients who like to write a girl's first review and TOFTT (Take One For The Team).

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It's like any business, it takes time to establish your name and your brand and build trust and a reputation and reviews and become known enough for other providers to both ask for and provide references for you.
It took me three expensive tours to the US to start getting good reviews on TER, and participate in the forums regularly, and build a following on Twitter and meet other ladies, and advertise in the right places and now after THREE years I can say I'm booked pretty solidly when I go somewhere new here. Nothing good comes quickly or easily, like Courtney says there's a lot of work to build any business.

I definitely understand where you're coming from. I took a break to finish school and returned to everyone in the Hobby being icier than I remember; which was disheartening. :(  

Like a poster above suggested definitely join Twitter and build your web presence back up again. And focus on gaining more reviews (I'm doing the same) after about a month of really putting myself out there I began to ease back into things.  

I also based myself in a different city, that helped a lot too ( I used to be based in Chicago).  But it's definitely frustrating at times, hang in there! I've gone through this exact same thing the beginning of this summer and now it's fine (after additional reviews and adding more photos+ consistent online presence.

xo,
Lola

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