and remember opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
The market for couples is very narrow. I, like a lot of hobbyists, have a strict "one-wiener-rule" whereby a MMF threesome is not in the cards, the market for women who are willing to pay for play is narrower still and the market for a F seeking an M is also narrow. The legal brothels in Nevada have tried several times to offer male services. All attempts have failed. Women who are willing to buy male services is narrow and of those who do, they want to be romanced and cuddled. A one or two hour appointment is insufficient to that end and longer appointments become prohibitively expensive. I don't know your objectives for the business. If you goal is to jointly offer services and accept that it is an extremely limited market, by all means offer as sole menu item. This is what Armando and Talia did initially and now segued into offering individual services. If your goal is to have services available where by you offer MF, FM and MMF; then I would recommend marketing yourselves as individual providers willing to see each other as part of a MMF threesome. I think that this will probably maximize your revenues. Talia is now offering her services to a solo males. It has always made me somewhat uncomfortable in making an appointment with her, because I am so aware of her first desire being a couples appointment with Armando. Hope this helps.Hello everyone! Hoping you'll have a few answers..
We are a MN couple interested in becoming duo provider's. We have a few questions if anyone could help us out? That would be amazing!
1.) Is there a market for couples in MN? (We would likely travel as well)
2.) Is there a market for "tan toned" ethnicitys? We are a lovely mixture he is Dominican I am a Egyptian.
3.) Would we be able to advertise here? Or, is there a specific place for couples to advertise?
4.) Any other information you think we would enjoy would be much appreciated.
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1. There is a market for everything.
2. Exotic sells.
3. Yes you can, there are couple provider teams reviewed here.
4. If you join in the discussions here so people can get to know you, those interested in that experience should migrate your direction.
+1 to DJ's points but will add:
There is a potential overlap with the swinger community here, where some couples can't realize their fantasies due to incompatible preferences or different attraction levels.
That said, be very careful because posing as a swinger couple but charging money would lead to blackballing from that community, which could lead to some unnecessary drama and even retaliation.
By being active on the boards and having discreet advertising, you may generate interest among that target market. If they reach out to you knowing what you offer (and what you don't offer), then no harm, no foul. Just don't pose at events as a civilian couple and expect to be able to charge.
You may get some more interest if you are willing to play separate, but know that 99% of the interest will be in the lady.
Girl-on-girl options are a huge plus but guy-on-guy is another can of worms. If you provide guy-on-guy play, you risk losing a significant part of your main hetero couple target market. I won't argue the fairness of it but it's a market reality. I recommend you decide early what you will and won't do and stick to it
Armando & Talia
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=202994
Christine & Alex
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=127784
They seemed to have enjoyed success as an escort couple. I'm not sure if Christine & Alex are still offering services.
I think there's definitely a market and traveling will likely bring more success.
Good luck and looking forward to seeing your ads on the TER Ad boards
Thank you,
I have had the erge to play with two males for a very long time, I mentioned this to my partner one day while watching a porno together. His response wasn't what I expected! "I've always have wanted to watch another man bang you" I instantly became wet! We had the best sex that night as we both fantasized about another male joining us in bed. But a fantasy isn't enough we had to try it!
I have always thought how arousing it would be to come home from work one day and catch my husband cheating! Weird? To some yes, for me? Not even the slightest! Anyways I could go on and on and on! Just wanted to fill you in.
We haven't experienced the swinging community, not much thought or research into.
We like to think of ourselves as a "live porn sensual experience" (we'll come up with a more appealing name lol)
As far as what we offer? Live show, MFM, MFMF, role-playing, MFM,
Etc
1.) Is there a market for couples in MN? (We would likely travel as well)
Certainly there is a market, but it may not be large or active enough for you to make this a full time avocation. I say that because the duos that have appeared in the past, generally, either disappear again fairly quickly, or start touring to other locations before too much time passes. Or sometimes the lady starts offering solo sessions in addition to duos.
If you are hoping for clients from both genders you may be disappointed. From what I've heard, there are female clients out there, but they are relatively few compared to the male. I could be wrong about that, though, no personal experience.
2.) Is there a market for "tan toned" ethnicitys? We are a lovely mixture he is Dominican I am a Egyptian.
Ethnicity matters less than appearance. If you are fit and attractive you'll be fine. In many ways, appearance matters less than the quality of the experience you provide. Sensuality and enthusiasm are important, and if either of you is being reluctantly persuaded by the other to try this venture, it will be noticed.
3.) Would we be able to advertise here? Or, is there a specific place for couples to advertise?
The TER Minnesota Ad board is the place for ads, and you will be welcome, not this discussion board. Do read the TER guidelines about permissible content and frequency of ads, and spend some time perusing the ads posted by other providers for ideas. Creativity is welcomed. Eschew ALL CAPS posts which are considered rude, and please resist any urge to use the backpage trick of a@DD&ing char***act***ers to your headlines. It's really annoying.
4.) Any other information you think we would enjoy would be much appreciated.
Take time to peruse the Newbie Board which has valuable information about the processes that make this hobby less dangerous for everyone. Be sure you understand the processes for checking references and verifying clients before you agree to see them, and then use those processes religiously. Use the two-call system when giving directions to your incall, and figure you will need to have an incall at the start, at least, since few clients will be willing to have an unknown quantity come to them. Seriously consider creating a website of your own for pictures and other information like rates and availability. Several local providers are willing to help with that process for a reasonable fee. Photos that accurately portray you are important, but place a watermark on every photo you post online to discourage scammers and thieves from stealing them.
Speaking only for myself, you are better off starting out with a lower donation rate and increasing it as you build a clientele, than you are starting at a very high rate and then lowering it when initial demand starts to taper. But very beautiful providers sometimes use the latter strategy. In any case, try to find a donation that you are comfortable with and don't be changing it constantly. Offering frequent specials just encourages clients to wait for the next special to come along.
Be clear with each other about what you will and won't allow (i.e., what is "on the menu"). YMMV ("your mileage may vary" meaning not everyone will have exactly the same experience) is a part of this game, but if the service level is radically different from one client to the next, it won't help you. Try to get a few reviews in TER. If they are favorable they will serve you in several ways - assuring Prospective Clients it is safe to see you, helping PCs decide if your experience is one they want to try, and letting PCs know what is allowed and what is not so you don't have to spend a lot of time negotiating those things.
Both Providers and Clients benefit from membership in verification sites. Preferred411.com is the most popular locally, though other sites are stronger in other parts of the country. Consider asking clients if they can/will invite you to join P411. If you use all the information venues I have mentioned, take pains to ensure your rates and schedules remain consistent between your website, your ads, your P411 profile, and your TER profile.
Good luck. Have fun.
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But it might be one of those things that there are guys who are interested but aren't going reply publicly. Beyond that you have been given some good info so I'd follow through on that. Good luck.
minn4evr covered it very well.
1. Yes the market is limited but it has been successful for several couples in the past.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Nothing ventured nothing gained. The only real cost is photos and a web site. Most of the successful providers I have talked to had a mentor to help them get started. In the past the providers would have a provider get together. An invite to one of these IMHO would be highly beneficial for someone just starting out.
We are a MN couple interested in becoming duo provider's. We have a few questions if anyone could help us out? That would be amazing!
1.) Is there a market for couples in MN? (We would likely travel as well)
2.) Is there a market for "tan toned" ethnicitys? We are a lovely mixture he is Dominican I am a Egyptian.
3.) Would we be able to advertise here? Or, is there a specific place for couples to advertise?
4.) Any other information you think we would enjoy would be much appreciated.
-- Modified on 11/9/2014 6:24:19 AM
and remember opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
The market for couples is very narrow. I, like a lot of hobbyists, have a strict "one-wiener-rule" whereby a MMF threesome is not in the cards, the market for women who are willing to pay for play is narrower still and the market for a F seeking an M is also narrow.
The legal brothels in Nevada have tried several times to offer male services. All attempts have failed. Women who are willing to buy male services is narrow and of those who do, they want to be romanced and cuddled. A one or two hour appointment is insufficient to that end and longer appointments become prohibitively expensive.
I don't know your objectives for the business.
If you goal is to jointly offer services and accept that it is an extremely limited market, by all means offer as sole menu item. This is what Armando and Talia did initially and now segued into offering individual services.
If your goal is to have services available where by you offer MF, FM and MMF; then I would recommend marketing yourselves as individual providers willing to see each other as part of a MMF threesome. I think that this will probably maximize your revenues.
Talia is now offering her services to a solo males. It has always made me somewhat uncomfortable in making an appointment with her, because I am so aware of her first desire being a couples appointment with Armando.
Hope this helps.
Guess it sounds like Im in the minority since I think it could be fun :P