Where you take your SB can influence how things go. There's a couple of places that work for me. Meeting for a first date, I typically opt for a lakeside restaurant with a nice patio on the water. That's quite romantic. There's something soothing about a large body of water that calms the nerves. But it's so fucking hot in my state in the summer--I can only pull this off now for brunch or a late dinner. I'll be glad when fall arrives.
Let's say on a first date, I meet a goddess who I can't live without. After lunch, I'll take her to a trendy boutique & buy her some clothes. I've been surprised by how modest most SBs are--the bill is usually around $100--$150 (a blouse, a dress, a pair of jeans). She'll try on clothes & ask for your opinion. Be honest & specific about what looks good on her and what doesn't. A College SB loves to play "dress up"--most women do. Having a sense of humor helps. Note here: only do this with a girl you can't live without. if she's willing to get in your car to go shopping, that's a big "tell". She trusts you. If she doesn't want to get into your car (preferring separate cars), then put the shopping trip on hold: "Maybe we can do that next time."
Then there's Sephora, which is "Can't Miss" shopping for an SB. Sephora is a French chain of cosmetics stores that should be at your local upscale mall. Most of the items in Sephora aren't that expensive (lipstick, mascara, etc). But an SB in Sephora is like a kid in a candy store. I haven't a clue about cosmetics, but I'll toss out opinions anyway: "That purple lipstick is fine…you look like a sexy vampire". Take her there, you'll both have fun.
Then there's the manicure-pedicure salons. I've never quite understood why SBs enjoy getting their fingernails or toenails messed with, but they love it. In my midwestern town, that usually runs $25-$30 bucks, so there's another place to take her. Find an empty chair & sit next your SB while they work on her nails. She'll be in such a blissed out state, she'll want to fuck you.
For first time BCD, a jacuzzi suite is hard to beat. You'll have to drop $40-$50 more than a regular room. Believe me, it's worth it. Make sure you've got music & a bottle of wine. First you'll fuck in the jacuzzi. Then towel dry just a bit. Then fuck her on the bed, while you're both still wet. Ahh...that's the absolute best.
Side note: My first time BCD with my biracial SB was in a jacuzzi suite. You know the "rule" about not messing with a black girl's hair? Bullshit. I grabbed a fistful of her wet hair while fucking her. After that, she wanted jacuzzi sex every time. After the main event, your SB will want to stay with you in that jacuzzi for a long, long time. Slow fucking in the jacuzzi (after the main event) is really nice, if you're up to it. Just mentioning a jacuzzi suite is seductive.
Now consider the items above.. For just a few extra $$, you're providing what any College SB yearns for--a taste of luxury, a taste of the good life. Things her broke BF cannot provide, nor does he give a shit. That's why the goddess is secretly on a sugar site in the first place. She's seriously considering cheating on her BF for someone who can provide an allowance and a small taste of luxury. So spoil her just a bit and the goddess will give herself over to you. She'll fuck you to the exhaustion point. At some deeper psychological level, she's not just fucking you. She's been seduced by the entire sugar fantasy of a better life. --z
Or the even more depressing fact that many guys here need the advice.
One side note, I almost never make my first date with an SB a "lunch date" It may be one reason my "score" ratio on first dates is so high. You chances of scoring on a "get to know you" lunch date are almost non existent. The best I have done was to have a lunch date followed by a "real" date that same evening.
I will agree that treating a young SB in a way the broke dick young guys in her life who want to fuck her is what separates the men from the boys and also separates the SB from her clothes. lol
One side note, I almost never make my first date with an SB a "lunch date" It may be one reason my "score" ratio on first dates is so high. You chances of scoring on a "get to know you" lunch date are almost non existent. The best I have done was to have a lunch date followed by a "real" date that same evening.
I will agree that treating a young SB in a way the broke dick young guys in her life who want to fuck her is what separates the men from the boys and also separates the SB from her clothes. lol
This forum works best when we share information without sniping at each other. I know I appreciate learning what works for other guys and what doesn't. Keep sharing your experiences
Stick to the over 60 or newbie board if you want nice. Btw I'm a getting tired of all the self appointed Sugar experts post and Ignore them.
and we seem to disagree on just about everything. lol
Also, this really is Zangari and me "being nice" we are both opinionated pricks and quite frankly this is about as "nice" as we are going to get.
Lastly, I am hardly an expert, but as they say "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King" That's kind of how I look at myself here. I am most definitely NOT an expert where it comes to the Sugar Bowl, but I was told a LOT of things about how to conduct myself in the Sugar Bowl by the so called "experts" on the subject and personally I have found much of that advice counter productive, so I felt I should get the other POV out there for balance.
With all of the gray areas in sugar world I doubt anyone can be an expert. Shit. The ladies don't even know what they want. What works for me in my market may not work elsewhere. Just go with the flow and do what you are comfortable with.
Also, this really is Zangari and me "being nice" we are both opinionated pricks and quite frankly this is about as "nice" as we are going to get.
Lastly, I am hardly an expert, but as they say "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King" That's kind of how I look at myself here. I am most definitely NOT an expert where it comes to the Sugar Bowl, but I was told a LOT of things about how to conduct myself in the Sugar Bowl by the so called "experts" on the subject and personally I have found much of that advice counter productive, so I felt I should get the other POV out there for balance.
As Sweetman noted, the forum is a place to share information (and experiences). Whenever I post an opinion or advice, I try to provide an underlying rationale that's logically consistent.
In regard to this thread: Just because a post isn't helpful to you, don't assume that it's worthless for everyone. A married guy who hasn't dated in decades may not have a clue as to where to take a 20 year old SB. Don't assume that you're *superior* to him. You're not.
That new SD may bed a goddess tomorrow that you can only dream about. If that SD was able to use a piece of info or advice from this board, then we haven't wasted our time here. Hopefully, that same SD will post some insight that will help the next guy. --
It's the reason Zangari and I "disagree" so often. We are just approaching it from very different perspectives, and there are a thousand other perspectives from which to view the Sugar World.
Markets vary as do the ladies within each market, not to mention new girls are signing up every day. Many of them with no idea what they are looking for.
They want to be a P4P but don't want to want to be thought of as a whore. They are just getting financial help from a friend. One wanted her remodeling of the kitchen paid for. Is she kidding?
Getting pussy like this is to much like having a civi job.
I had a nice reunion earlier this week with a lovely provider I met on TER years ago. She's under the radar but let me know where she'd be and it turned out our travels intersected so we had a great time. But we were talking about sugar dating and she told me that the awesome Lexus she showed up in was a gift from her Sugar Daddy! He'd been giving her a fat allowance and then gave her this $43,000 car. Then his wife found out so that's over. But crap, I sure can't compete financially with someone like that. So I'm playing in the Sugar Bowl, with great pleasure and success, but at a much, much lower level of cost. All ideas and suggestions are welcome since there are so many different ways that sugar dating can play out.