Anyone else have a bad experience with a provider before? How did/do you handle it?
Long story short:
This was the second meeting with a certain provider. I requested 3 hours because the first meeting ended before I felt I was done. I was more familiar with her this time so after a quick bj we got down to it pretty quick, me on top plugging away.
She was really into it at first and about 30 min later I came, pulled out and changed condoms. She was a bit surprised that I was still ready to go but she was still into it. I got back on top and started drilling away for the next 45 min. She was panting heavily and we were both sweating by now.
She suggested we change positions with her on top and we did that for about 15 min. I started to get bored so I insisted we go back to me on top. I could tell she was less than enthused but did not offer too much resistance at first. I got going on her, but this time I noticed she was wincing more and more especially when I started concentrating and going for max depth and max speed. During this time she kept trying to limit my depth by pushing on my thighs but I just countered with more force, I kind of thought she was toying with me. Then she said porfavor no mas. I stopped but stayed in her and pointed to my watch and told her we still had about 45 min left. She acknowledged that so I kept going and about 10 min later that’s when I go it. “No mas! No mas! No mas! “and some other Spanish I could not understand.
After, an agency rep came over and talked to her and to me basically, she said I was to “hard” I’m still not sure what that meant as they both spoke poor English and I poor Spanish. I ended up paying the full 300 for about 2.5 hours instead of the full 3. I could have objected more but I was a gringo in mexico who did still need a ride back to the border so I decided not to press it. Still, I can’t help but feel a bit cheated.
Is this a case when I should write a bad review?
Is there some limit to the amount of penetration allowed per secession?
Should I ask about this limit in the future or is this just b.s. and she was just faking it?
We are not machines. Condoms, even with lube can be painful and then you factor in someone slamming you doesn't help. If I saw someone for 3 hours there is no way I am doing the whole time in bed. That's just me though. I think if you maybe gave the poor girl a break and didn't treat her like a piece of meat you may have had a better out come to the whole situation. We are human and not power tools or blow up dolls.
As for you feeling cheated, how?!?!?! That girl gave you her all and it's your fault for trying to get it fast and hard and hurting her. I think you'd be horrible to put a bad review up of her when she did all she could. Maybe next time don't try to pound the girl for a whole 3 hours with no break and without "concentrating and going for max depth and max speed." Try a softer approach and more gentelmen like way.
Tasha
Any girl that would let a man pound so deep she feels pain needing to use her thighs to eleviate for over 2 hours has earned a "once in a lifetime" performance rating in my book.
I'd venture to guess the ending wasn't as important as your deep/hard/fast journey LOL
Pretend you went to a lady for three hours and she starts by rubbing your nether bits...
It feels good....
You're "into" it...
she gets going harder and faster with her HJ...
and after about a half hour of her yankin' you shoot.
Then just as you think she is gonna stop for a little while...she keeps yankin'...no lotion, or even spit...just yankin' away...
She tightens her grip, pulls harder faster and futher...
You try and put your hand over hers to control how hard she is pulling at you...but she gets bored with that after about 15 minutes and starts the hard fast, deathgrip HJ again...
As you wince in pain she looks annoyed...
As you try and limit how hard and far she stretches your danglies, she just goes faster and further...
You tell her no, you indicate it hurts...but she just keeps yankin...
Finally when your dick is raw, sore, dry, chapped, and you think it might actually hurt less if she yanked it right off than keep tugging on it, you finally yell to make her stop the HJ assault...
Then she replies with complete dismay that you paid for three hours and she only violently pounded your dick in her fist for 2 1/2 hours....
Do you get it now?
You were hurting her.
She tried to make you understand that.
She tried to change positions to still give you your time without her being in pain.
She tried to slow you down, she tried to block your maximum depth and speed.
Finally she had to make you stop...because you were hurting her.
Look at the $50 you think you got shorted in your 2 1/2 hour pounding session as hazard pay for the lady, and tip for taking physical pain for as long as she did before making you stop.
Sorry to break it to you, but if you think anyone has to take a "pounding" and put up with physical pain for your $100 an hour...you are wrong, and if that is just how you are when you are shooting for your spooge, consider a blowup doll, real doll, or vibrating vagina and leave the ladies alone and physically without harm or pain...
Hell, you're lucky she or the agency didn't try and get you to pay extra as I imagine she isn't going to be seeing anyone for awhile as you hurt her...so still think you are the one that got ripped off...when she probably had to take days off and lose money because she tried to accommodate you, but you refused to take hints or be kind...
I frequent strip clubs... you can always tell a gal who just doesn't "get it"! she jumps on you and literally bounces with her full weight on you cock. it hurts! especially if you have a full out there standin straight up hardon.
This guy may wish to learn to vary his technique if he wished to go full - non stop for 3 hours... break it up, BJ, Russian, reverse CG, doggie... you name it... and inbetween - some cuddles and tender kisses.... but hard core poundin for 3 hours... I'm sweatin just thinking about it... and it is not a good sweat!
A guy who can't cum in 2.5 hours is probably on viagra and cannot ejaculate. (as it has a tendancy to do that to some blokes.)
And you avoided stating the obvious...that no one in their right mind buys three hours and expects it all to be three hours of solid intercouse. Three hours means you need to buy her a burrito and cuddle and smooch and talk about Mexican/American relations or at least get tied to a chair and have your buttocks slapped with a rolled up El Torito Menu or a dead rooster from last night's cock fight.
Anyway, how are you Webbie? I miss you!
love,
Jockeypants
That poor girl. If it had been me, I'd have castrated you. No wonder you have to go south of the border to find women. I'm sure your name is posted on every black list for escorts on the 'Net.
I hope to God that writing this was nothing more than wish fulfillment for a sick twisted fantasy.
By the way, "too hard" simply means a woman isn't a fucking ROBOT you dumbass.
As to writing a review, by all means. Give the lady a TEN for putting up with you and being a trooper LONG after most women would have donkey kicked you in the nuts.
I can't believe you are so stupid to ask "is there a time limit to how much penetration is allowed" DUH! Its a pretty self limiting activity. When the body is screaming "STOP" that pretty much lets you know you've hit the limit. Particularly when going for "depth" as you so proudly describe it. Women have this litle thing inside them, its called a CERVIX - perhaps you've heard of it?? Well guess what buddy, it effing HURTS when you slam into it for two hours solid! Seriously, are you REALLY this dense??
I will say this though - thanks for having the balls to post this using your real name. I'm certain it has been duly noted and will be remembered by any lady with common sense. Happy hobbying - somewhere else.
-- Modified on 2/17/2007 1:09:58 AM
Insensitive son of a bitch!!!!
Get another hobby. Like self abuse.
...Sugar Ray Leonard had pummelled him to a stand still.
I don't like to dump on another hobbyist but you don't sound too sugary.
...I'll never forget the Duran-Leonard fight. It was a great moment in boxing history. Two superb boxers.
As to the original post it may even be a troll. If true, it is "bang out of order", as they say around my parts.
You are paying for her time and companionship, anything else is between consenting adults.
At the risk of being accused of being a WK, I admit I have these tendencies, let me ask these questions:
Did you ask if she would be willing to be a sex machine for the full three hours? You say that you had seen her before for an hour, why did you assume that she would be willing to provide 3 hours of non-stop action?
My multi-hour situations have always included recovery time, for me and her, which is great for a massage (either receiving, or giving), and to get to know her.
So there was a language barrier, does that mean she doesn’t have a say about the session? I live and play in Europe where I’ve met many women with limited English, and have never had difficulty understanding when I’ve done something they didn’t like, which I always respect (her body, her rules). She made it clear she was not comfortable with the situation. At that point she was no longer a consenting adult, but you had to press the matter by pointing to your watch. Doing this, you simply said "you are a piece of meat to me."
If you want a companion that will keep up with your Cialis induced hard on, I would agree with the provider responses, get an inflatable doll or a mold of a porn star’s vagina. If you can really keep it up for three hours, maybe you should audition for porn.
You weren’t cheated, you abused her and her time.
(edited for spelling and grammar only)
-- Modified on 2/17/2007 6:23:43 AM
What a complete jerk you are to treat her like a piece of trash like that. You violated her and dehumanized her. I hope we kknow what review name you use so that we can address your abuse. And yes this is an alias so you can't harass me. Poor girl. You should be arrested for assault, she said stop because you were hurting her.
Remember, she's working for an agency in a foreign country.
My best guess is that it's man after man after man, so she's being mistreated from two different angles.
The whole thought on both sides of this is disgusting.
Really and truly the guy that started this thread should be rendered irrelevant immediately!!!
you are pathetic my fellow hobbyist.
Would not matter who the lady was, nobody deserves to be treated like that. Perhaps you need a new hobby? Try this: Necrophilia
They never complain!!
This is more then likely fictional. I had to read it three times. Fictional, or otherwise, makes you wonder about his mental stability.
I too hope that this is a work of fiction....but I wouldn't be so certain of it. Notice, none of the providers have made that assumption. Unfortunately, this sort of jerk isn't uncommon even if this is a rather extreme example of a breed of client every woman encounters sometimes :o(
This is sad sad sad....
Regardless....fact of fiction, sad sad sad....
Eliminate this creep from TER someone please!!!!
You go Sargant Smarty!!!
I did a search on this jerk's earlier post - yes he hobbys in Mexico, and yes he seems to have little respect for the women he sees.
We really don't need his kind around here.
I really hope you learn your mistakes here for future providers sakes.
1. If she pushes you away slightly when you are penetrating deep, it means "NOT SO DEEP." Show some respect dude and learn to read body language.
EXAMPLE - Once when I was with a provider, we were going at it and I noticed that she started squinting with her eyes as if in pain. I immediately stopped and asked if she was in pain. As it turned out she had some eyelash extensions on that she was trying out for the first time and they started to bother her.
2. 2 1/2 hours of straight f-ing for a 3 hour appointment is over and beyond the call of duty for a provider considering IF you give time to chat a little and breaks in between pops. Otherwise just set up a 1 hour appointment, why the hell do you need 3? Are you that hard up for sex?
3. Why use an alias here?
4. Have you ever felt pain before? If so did you want that pain to continue or stop immediately? Now relate that feeling to this poor provider who was in pain and she held out for a long time. Does that deserve a bad review? You have to be kidding.
You should be ashamed for putting this lady through this nightmare session. I hope your name and number are placed on a national/local DNS list. Providers are not sex machines. Some guys just never learn.
Get one of those "Real Dolls".
You can F them for hours and they won't complain at all.
here is a quote from one of your posts on this board:
I used to have a job I hated, I quit and went and did something else.
(shrugs shoulders in indifference)
So what job have you done that can lead to you be arrested every day? What job have you had that conflicted with the moral values you were raised with? Did that job you hated, and left, allow individuals to inflict physical pain on you against your will?
Call me a WK, but these are the challenges and choices that face providers. I'd suggest that you play with yourself until you are able to consider the lady's feelings and concerns, no matter whatlanguage she speaks.
-- Modified on 2/17/2007 7:20:57 AM
Ok, let me reply before you all tar and feather me.
First off, there is allot of missing info in the story, it is abridged because I just don’t feel like typing, keep that in mind.
Second, look, we are not talking about some underage dowdy eyed virgin that I picked up off the side of the street because she was lost and needed a ride.
Third, we are talking about a professional who exchanges her services for MY money; I believe it was her responsibility to let me know in no uncertain terms when she was done. The moment she did let me know that she was done we stopped. I tell you this it NEVER occurred to me that I could wear out a whore, it did however occur to me that maybe she had another appointment and wanted to get ready for that while still on my dime. I am still not convinced that this was not the case.
Fourth, it was apparent to me that she did enjoy a little bit of pain both receiving and dishing it out. As I type this I am looking at the rashes on my chest from her bite marks during the first hour of the session. Somehow I was able to tell her to stop because she was hurting me she agreed and started chewing on a towel.
As far as the far as:
“So what job have you done that can lead to you be arrested every day?”
In TJ I don’t believe it is a crime one of the main reasons I go there. I don’t enjoy breaking the law, no matter how unjust it is. In most of the US it is a crime so those of you who engage in these activities here ARE criminals. I am not judging you just putting it out there as a fact.
“What job have you had that conflicted with the moral values you were raised with?”
I don’t know how to respond here as I don’t know the moral values of the mexicans.
“Did that job you hated, and left, allow individuals to inflict physical pain on you against your will?”
OMFG!, I am going to state this as slowly and clearly as possible so even the most mentally incompetent among you can understand this. I did not fully realize I was inflicting pain or pleasure outside whatever is normal for women to experience during sex. When she finally said that was it she was done in a serious manner we stopped. At NO time was anyone doing anything against their will she could have left at any time and so could I.
And finally to those of you calling for my castration and the like, ROTFLOL! I would normally say up yours with some hard sharp object but apparently you could just use my Dic instead.
I am going to take this experience as a positive and go workout, I get the feeling that the weights will be a seem little lighter today, because how often do you get told, by a whore no less, that you are just too much of a man to handle.
*Note any and all of my posts should be considered works of fiction and if you find any of them offensive, DO NOT READ THEM.
by a whore no less
That was copied and pasted from your reply, a weak attempt at bringing some logic to your dimwitted approach to life.
SOMEBODY BAN THIS ASSHOLE!!! TAR AND FEATHER WON'T HOLD HIM.
It wasn't that you were too much of man it was that your $17.50 Cialis that you pick up in TJ before seeing a lady, that was the issue...
If ya need drugs to get it up in the first place, kind of difficult to then think you are such a virile man as to be able to wear a woman out...come on thank the makers of your ED drugs send them a letter and maybe they will be more productive at the gym but you have no reason to have your muscles or ego pumped up.
Now for the logic portion of the "stiffer living through chemistry" party line:
If you never in your life before popping ED drugs had a three hour erection it is because three hour erections are not normal...and it follows, if a dick ain't supposed to be hard for three hours then a vagina isn't supposed to be pounded for three hours...simple physiology and again nothing for you too be too proud of.
Sadly while modern medicine has given otherwise flaccid males marathon erections it hasn't given women the correlating drug that causes her to stay lubricated for that long, or relaxes the muscles so that they won't give resistance to being "pounded" for that long.
Oh, and I have to ask...how exactly can someone not read your posts if the find it offensive without reading it first to find it offensive?
Some stirring logic you have there. *smirk*
Your problem is that you're as dense as those weights you're diddling..daily? When you've decided someone is a "whore," you apparently turn off your comprehension and insight antennas..if you've got any, that is.
FYI, screwing isn't just about being obsessed with your own dick. It includes another human being, and it includes keeping the big head sensitive, not just the little one. Had you known that, you would also known that virgins are DEWY-EYED, not "dowdy eyed." But I guess you don't use yours to check that fact out, verdad?
Now I'm not going to shit on you specifically for going to TJ, although my suspicion is that you're way to cheap to party with those who charge decent amounts of money to fuck Incredible Hulks like you. That excuse about legal prostitution is, well, a flimsy excuse, and I don't buy it for a second. If prices were the same in TJ to fuck MA or another star provider, you wouldn't do it. So you go anywhere you think you get more bang for your buck, since you're clearly not interested in communicating ON ANY LEVEL, with the person whom you're jackhammering.
The worst part of all of this is that here you have a whole contingent of hobbyists and providers telling you, in ENGLISH, how WRONG you were, and you still can't get it through your numbnut skull.
You're right. We shouldn't bother with you at all. Forget about works of fiction - your appearance on TER and its boards constitutes nothing more than the scrawlings of a literate simian.
Next stop for you - San Diego Zoo...
...In my direction? Mama this surely is a dream....
Sorry I'm late to the thread...I was out of town for the past few days...
Dewy-eyed virgins?? That's like disco-lemonade! LOL! YUMMY!
Too bad I missed the tarring and feathering... shucks...
To tar and feather you would be too gentle. Come on, don't feed us a line of crap here. In your first post you mention seeing her WINCING, then go on to talk about how you were going for maximum depth and speed - AFTER you noticed her wincing. Have you ever seen someone WINCE because they were about to jump up and down for joy?? You didn't take that as a sign that all was not well with her???? Are you pretending you don't KNOW what a cervix is?? Are you pretending you somehow missed out on the widely known fact that SLAMMING into a woman's cervix is NOT fun. It hurts. And when you do it, a woman is going to WINCE from the pain. Any man with a real honest to God set of balls, and a brain is going to STOP at that point and see that his partner is OK. Instead of doing that though, you just pounded her harder and tried to shove her thighs out of the way so she couldn't protect herself. Yeah buddy, that really makes you a man. Just in case the WINCING wasn't enough of a signal to you, again according to YOUR post, she ASKED you to stop. What response did that generate from such a MANLY man? You pointed at your watch and basically said "Shut the fuck up bitch, I paid for you". Yeah, that definitely rates really high on the Manly Man scale there sunshine.
Let me let you in on a little secret. No still means no, regardless if money has been exchanged. When she told you to STOP the first time, you coerced her continued cooperation. That is assault. You sexually battered that woman, plain and simple. She said stop. She told you she was hurting. She told you with her body, and she told you verbally. She said STOP, and instead of respecting that, you pointed at your watch and kept pounding away. So she is an uneducated woman, with a language barrier, and an undoubtedly justified fear of what may happen to her from the boss if she doesn't make the customer happy. Does that make it ok to force yoruself on her after you hurt her? Does it?
And if there was ANY doubt about your sadsitic misogyny here, your follow up respnose removes it. "How often do you get told, by a whore no less" So there you have it. She's a whore, so lets just take the abuse and the subsequent request to STOP the abuse as an accolade. Somebody give that fellow a high five.
I really had to laugh at your idea that you think all this means you were "too much of a man" though. Let me tell you something. You aren't a man. You aren't even a little boy because little boys have the potential to grow up into men, which is something you will never do. Richard Simmons, were he castrated and given a set of falsies, would still be more of a man than you will ever be. That three hour erection had nothing whatsoever to do with your manliness, it was simply better living through chemicals. Yay for the makers of Cialis. No woman's vagina is designed to take three hours of pounding. It wouldn't matter if a Vienna Sausage looks like an anaconda beside you.
You are simply an abuser. Your first post suggested it, and your second post confirms it. If you really cared about your treatment of her, you would have taken the responses posted here into consideration. You would be questioning yourself about the rightness or wrongness of your behavior. Instead you choose to take it as an ego boost, and can't seem to stop thumping your chest. Your episode had nothing at all to do with acheiving orgasm. After all, you apparently acomplished that twice. It had everything to do with "completing" what you started the first time you saw her, and finding out just how hard you could push her, and how hard you could use her. That is why you got "bored" when she was on top. She stopped WINCING so it got BORING for you. Your only real disappointment here is that just when the session was really getting good - when she was fighting you with every thrust, and you were getting a good flinch out of her - she finally threw you off and said NO MORE and stuck by her guns. That was the real downer for you.
I notice in your response, after all of these people have told you that YES you hurt her - it never ocurred to you adress that in any way. So basically, you have tried to justify your actions and say you just didn't know - but at the same time you aren't even the least bit apologetic or regretful about the experience you just put her through. So we can all pack up and go home now. There really is nothing more here to see. If you think anyone believes you are anything other than a cowardly abuser it is only yourself that you are fooling. And my thoughts and prayers go out to your next victim.
No tar, no feathers from me, but every word you write seems to inspire the community to do that to to you.
So here are you excuses:
1) There are at least 2 sides to every story, don't judge me. Hello?!?! Thus far the only side exposed is yours, and the community has expressed universal disgust.
2)Second, look, we are not talking about some underage dowdy eyed virgin that I picked up off the side of the street because she was lost and needed a ride. Wow by this are you saying that that only young providers get a pass on the 3 hour non-stop pounding you enjoy?
3) Yes you were dealing with a professional. The fact that you paid YOUR MONEY doesn't mean that you get whatever you want. Yes, she was a professional, and a person, deserving respect.
4) I wouldn't doubt that she enjoyed some to the early action, but there is too much of a good thing. She made it clear that she was uncomfortable, you made is clear that you only cared about you.
As for answers to my questions:
1) Wasn't it you that posted the "There goes my TJ" topic. An American is arrested in Mexico for running a prostitution ring. Sounds like like you are aware there is some risk.
2) “What job have you had that conflicted with the moral values you were raised with?”
I don’t know how to respond here as I don’t know the moral values of the mexicans.
WOW!!! How telling of your attitude! So were you with a person or merely a Mexican? Your actions, and your reply would indicate that you don't care, so long as you get your rocks off.
3) Let me state this slowly and clearly, so the mentally incompetent ccw55 can understand: you obviously hurt her, she tried to tell you, but you were more interested in yourself.
Dude - Get some help.
No means no - by self admission, you are guilty of a sexual assault.
I suggest a big bowl of ganja, your favorite porn, and a lubricated pair of vice grips.....
Glad you got it karma.
start to reconnect to your empathy. You have to release the pain you are suffering in a way that does not harm other sentient creatures. That means leave the sheep alone, too.
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I mean look at the responses and the near unanimity of opinion as to the extent of abuse by CCW.
At the same time... the simple truth of the matter is that while we may condemn CCW's actions and attitudes... and I do as well, it highlights a very important fact... namely, for every CCW who DOES post on here, there are dozens if not hundreds more like him who we don't know about, or hear about until tragedy strikes.
I did not get a sense of real malice or inherent evil as much as a sense of "this guy is utterly clueless."
I'm not defending CCW's acts or his attitude... but pointing out that he might simply not know any better. Ignorance can be rectified.
Tra expressed disdain for Newbies... all of us were virgins once upon a time.
You can't know where you are going until you know where you've been.
I hope CCW, you've learned from this thread.
I really feel pretty much the same as Da Gonz here, however with regard to my NEWBIES comment.....
You're right! All of us were virgins, that's true!
However, I for one, get sick and tired and weary of attempting to train or educate or direct these people who have so much disrespect for others and a general disdain for women. Right again Gonz, you know there are thousands of these people out there who wouldn't know a bicycle from a bowl of chocolate ice cream, and it's just horrible that we need to suffer as a result. Hence my comment.
CCW has not commented to my knowledge. He is either sitting at his computer with spooge all over the keyboard laughing, bvd's down around his ankles....OR.....he's entirely clueless.
Let's hope it's the latter.
Careful Doc, you're wading into "Brothers" territory.....
Ok, let me reply before you all tar and feather me.
First off, there is allot of missing info in the story, it is abridged because I just don’t feel like typing, keep that in mind.
Second, look, we are not talking about some underage dowdy eyed virgin that I picked up off the side of the street because she was lost and needed a ride.
Third, we are talking about a professional; I believe it was her responsibility to let me know in no uncertain terms when she was done. The moment she did let me know that she was done we stopped. I tell you this it NEVER occurred to me that I could wear out a … provider , it did however occur to me that maybe she had another appointment and wanted to get ready for that while still on my dime. I am still not convinced that this was not the case.
Fourth, it was apparent to me that she did enjoy a little bit of pain both receiving and dishing it out. As I type this I am looking at the rashes on my chest from her bite marks during the first hour of the session. Somehow I was able to tell her to stop because she was hurting me she agreed and started chewing on a towel. Why she did not come right out and do the same is beyond me.
Hey, we already saw your previous post! Nothing new in this one!
Yes, a gorilla wouldn't "feel like typing." And so this one only has the intelligence to duplicate his inane messages.
Go home to your zoo and fuck there, silverback!
five minutes, passed out for the remaining two hours and fifty five minutes and the driver had to wake your ass up.
Do a nice review.
There is no limit.
You need to stop faking it.
Would you have pounded your wife, girlfriend or an American provider for 55 minutes and expected her to just put up with you? The answer is NO. You took advantage of that poor Mexican provider and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you did that to your wife/gf/ATP, she would have stopped you after 10 minutes and if she was feeling generous that day, she would have finished you with her hand. You should be glad that that Mexican provider didn't ask the agency to man handle you and show you some real hard time.
providers are human beings who deserve to be treated with respect. Compliment her, treat her like a lady and you'll be duly rewarded.