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I have always been a fan of Preferred411 as the premier verification site for hobbyists.

However, a provider recently extended to me a free trial offer to Date-Check.

During my trial usage of the service, the one thing I cannot understand about Date-Check is its continued listing of providers that have left the industry.

For example, a simple scan of the Minnesota listings indicates at least 10 providers that (to the best of my knowledge) are long gone from the hobby.

If a provider took the time to remove her profile on Preferred411, then why would she not remove her listing on Date-Check?

In any case, one of the cool things about Date-Check is that touring providers are more willing to post their extended travel plans on their listing compared to their Preferred411 profile.

-- Modified on 8/30/2014 8:28:39 PM

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DAVEPHX1548 reads

P411 is used for stings and Gina no longer tries to protect like she use to.

P411 is listed on the FBI website as a sex trafficking site.

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DAVEPHX831 reads

I tried to post the link to the FBI itself website but was rejected.  Makes no sense but you can google P411 and FBI and find it on the FBI website in addition to other news reports.

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Posted By: DAVEPHX
I tried to post the link to the FBI itself website but was rejected.  Makes no sense but you can google P411 and FBI and find it on the FBI website in addition to other news reports.
I already saved everyone the trouble and posted the link to the DenverPost myself earlier in the thread.... ;)

We aren't perfect. I wish we were, I wish we could keep every single person safe from every type of harm with a wave of my magic wand. I don't have a magic wand though, and all I can do is use my experience to eliminate those who pose a threat to the community. Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I don't.... but I do work every single day towards that goal

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I'm not part of this conversation, and am also retiring soon but I was reading... I can say that as a provider, I have never (over the past 3 years) felt safer than with P411. I love the P411 website and the care to safety Gina takes. I don't announce this on my personal website, but when a client is a P411 member, the P411 screening is good enough in my book. I practically, exclusively see P411 clients. I have never had any issues with LE, and I always invite prospective clients to join - not just for safety but because P411 screens the providers as well as the clients, which in my opinion, is excellent. It seems that some people like drama and like to say negative things about P411, which is ridiculous. I have never seen a website put so much effort into making sure everyone is safe. The extent that Gina goes to in order to insure safety is extreme. That said, the site is wonderful. And safe.  

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Posted By: DAVEPHX
I tried to post the link to the FBI itself website but was rejected.  Makes no sense but you can google P411 and FBI and find it on the FBI website in addition to other news reports.
   
 I already saved everyone the trouble and posted the link to the DenverPost myself earlier in the thread.... ;)  
   
 We aren't perfect. I wish we were, I wish we could keep every single person safe from every type of harm with a wave of my magic wand. I don't have a magic wand though, and all I can do is use my experience to eliminate those who pose a threat to the community. Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I don't.... but I do work every single day towards that goal.  
 

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Posted By: DAVEPHX
 
 P411 is listed on the FBI website as a sex trafficking site.
There was an incident in Denver, June of last year (2013), where a number of providers on P411 were targeted by the FBI's "Innocence Lost" project. It's not the first incident (unfortunately) to occur over our nearly 10 years in business, and I'm sure it won't be the last (unfortunately).

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23479062/prostitution-bust-nets-22-denver-metro-area

While there have been a handful of client accounts on P411 compromised over the years and used to cause problems for providers, that information has always come directly from me, via messages posted on P411. I've never hidden the fact that there have been issues. The good news is that we've never had a client targeted. That's not to say that it couldn't happen, but up to now it has never happened.  

Please note that DavePhx was removed from P411 for launching false accusations against a provider on P411, which is something he has done before (and we had had words about). As soon as he was removed from P411, he first threatened me to give him his account back (which I refused to do), and then he started making accusations against P411 and myself.

If anyone has any specific questions or concerns, I am always available to address them.

Always,
Gin

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Drumsticks734 reads

...Hobbyists and Providers as 'The Valley's Leading Provider of Misinformation, Lies and Fear Mongering in the Valley since 1996'. DAVEPHX's main purpose is to serve as a pawn for MCSO and FBI in disseminating disinformation throughout the Phoenix metro area in their effort to dissuade law abiding folks from interacting with each other in a manner of their choosing.  
DAVEPHX is all about hurting the Hobby community, Gina and P411 is all about helping and facilitating adults to make wise decisions within the Hobbying community.   :)

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DAVEPHX815 reads

IT is important to note that Drumsticks follows me to harrass on many boards in the past where I post facts from police blotters, follow the many prostituton felony cases in Maricopa Superior Court and try and help escorts avoid being arrested and face years in prison (if have a driver or more than 1 work together.  

I have been a positive sex advocate for decades and work closely with the national activitsts to challange the laws including a 9th Circuit declaratory action hope to be filed soon.

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Drumsticks984 reads

...their real names whenever and wherever he can. Not only does he openly and aggressively publish their true names, he delves into their private lives and publishes anything he can about them, viz; their driving citations, their criminal records and their past cities of residence. DAVEPHX really gets a boner when a Provider gets murdered during the course of her work and really delves into and publicly exposes her personal life simply for the pure joy he gets out of tormenting her grieving family even further. I follow and am a member of many boards and it's important to note that DAVEPHX is frequently banned and heavily censored on those boards because of his inappropriate behaviour such as you're now witnessing.  

It's one thing when he cuts and pastes things within a thread. When he expresses his insight or opinion about a subject, you can be assured that what he states is grossly exagerated and mostly false.  

DAVEPHX is a joke!  :D

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Posted By: Drumsticks
...their real names whenever and wherever he can. Not only does he openly and aggressively publish their true names, he delves into their private lives and publishes anything he can about them, viz; their driving citations, their criminal records and their past cities of residence. DAVEPHX really gets a boner when a Provider gets murdered during the course of her work and really delves into and publicly exposes her personal life simply for the pure joy he gets out of tormenting her grieving family even further. I follow and am a member of many boards and it's important to note that DAVEPHX is frequently banned and heavily censored on those boards because of his inappropriate behaviour such as you're now witnessing.  
   
 It's one thing when he cuts and pastes things within a thread. When he expresses his insight or opinion about a subject, you can be assured that what he states is grossly exagerated and mostly false.  
Exactly.

There are very few (if any) people in the community who consider DavePhx to be a reliable source of information. Those who do are either very new, very naïve, or very afraid that they will become Dave's next target. I'm none of those.... and I'm not alone!


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Posted By: GinaXXX
 
   Please note that DavePhx was removed from P411 for launching false accusations against a provider on P411, which is something he has done before (and we had had words about). As soon as he was removed from P411, he first threatened me to give him his account back (which I refused to do), and then he started making accusations against P411 and myself.  
 
Gina lies as usual.  

I was only exposing the truth after having been a long-time supporter of P411 and working with Gina in the past.  Assuming this really is the same "Gina" her attitude as totally changed as confirmed by MANY escorts who have e-mailed me.  

 I asked for confirmation from a provider that she had seen a customer who was very suspicious (none of his info verified) that used her as a reference the same day as an FBI sting.   The escort was too scared to ask directly quite sure it was LE.   The P411 escort gave a non responsive answer as would be expected from LE, so I assume may have been LE related.

There is a long history of ignored reports to Gina of suspicious activity that are just ignored as gossip even and many top escorts now will not take P411 references due to suspected LE activity and failure to take obvious suspecious activity seriously.  

We have ongoing stings with large task forces going after consenting adults in Phoenix s

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vorlon719 reads

So why should anyone take you seriously?

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Posted By: turboted

   
 If a provider took the time to remove her profile on Preferred411, then why would she not remove her listing on Date-Check?  
   
Preferred411 automatically pulls down provider listings, if the provider hasn't logged in for 45 days. Once she logs in, the listing will pop back up.... but if she never logs in again, the account goes into a inactive status.

Always,
Gina

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