Been on SA three separate times in between and alongside hobby'ing. I "sampled" between 21 to 35 YO. Just like the Hobby, once they are past 30's, they are mostly lying about their true age by as much as 10 years.
My criteria has been (i am guessing) quite different to Z's because I am single and no SO in the picture. Also, I typically do not go for under 25's because I actually like to spend time outside and not just BCD! I have never been worried about physical congruencies, but the 25 > behavior in many social settings leave me concerned. Many SB > 25 turned out to be transplants ( as So. Cal is a hotbed for transients) in immediate and dire need of rent, transportation and the basics; hence influx into the SB market. Many balk initially at the 300-400 per meet, but if you give them a chance to acclimate to the SD/SB paradigm, some will come back if you play your cards right. Eacj time it took me about 3 month to find a "steady" and each time it didn't last beyond 3 month. A lot of time and $ wasting in between on the chase and the meetings. I found WYP to be an even worse avenue to venture down than SA and I am sworn not to enrich the pockets of Brandon Wade (an alias) again. I enjoy the more organic approach to SD/SB and they are out there if you know what to look for. It could be your ATF provider, the gal who serves your food at the restaurant or the gal who cuts your hair! Of course all of these pertain to single men and if one is married or has other forms of SO, best to stick to providers or those youngin SBs whom Z likes to go for.How to end an arrangement popped up in previous thread--this is a really important aspect of the sugar bowl and I thought it deserved its own thread. A provider you can cut loose at any time--there's no arrangement. But if you're banging a College SB, then you need to handle this carefully. The solution: Your SB will almost always give you an excellent reason to end it, lol.
Most College SBs try to juggle you & a boyfriend (who she hasn't told you about). Or she may juggle you & another SD. I *guarantee she's not exclusive to you. I tell an SB the truth on our first date--I have an SO. But it's rare for an SB to admit that she has a BF. A perfect example follows:
I was with a stunning 20 year old College SB last summer. She was mixed--her mom was white; her father was 'black Dominican". She was like a petite version of Beyonce, omg. She was smoking hot, funny, & great in bed. We fucked all summer long--at least once a week at $300. Sometimes we'd meet back at the hotel room the next morning before check out (I'd give her $150 then). I couldn't get enough--her slit was so tight that my cock would be sore over the weekend. But once in a while, she'd get a cluster of texts & would leave suddenly with some bizarre excuse.
Any guy who deals with College SBs will understand the play. Her BF, who definitely doesn't know about you, becomes suspicious by her unexplained absences. He'll start blowing up her phone. I got tired of this quickly, note the text exchange below.
SB: are we still meeting tomorrow 
Z: If you're going to run whenever someone texts you, then I can't see you.
SB: sorry, didn't know it bothered u so much. Won't happen again!
Note here: I don't care if an SB has a BF, as long as she puts him on the back-burner when she's with me. My text to her couldn't be any clearer. I only saw her for a few hours a week, so our arrangement was contingent on the understanding above. And things were great for the next two months…she put away her phone whenever she was with me.
Then her birthday arrived. She was turning 21 and wanted me to know all about it. I promised to take off work that day & buy her some clothes at the mall.
That morning, she invites me to a birthday lunch with her older Sister. This surprises me. You rarely meet an SB's family. We get together at a German restaurant. Her Sis is a few years older, and studies me with cool detachment. There's a wild card at the table. Sis has brought a gabby female friend, and my SB is surprised by her presence. Oscar Wilde would've loved this setup.
Sis is smart enough to understand the play, but Gabby won't shut up. After a few drinks, Gabby focuses on me like a laser beam. She shows me pix on her cell. She wants to know everything about me. And my SB is really tense now. She's sitting next to me in the booth, coiled as tight as a spring.
Gabby: You don't sound like you're from here, Zangari!
Z: Ah, my family is originally from New York City.
Gabby: I hear that you treat our birthday girl really well!
SB: Stop it, Gabby.
I'm not sure if Gabby wants her own SD or if she's just a shit-starter. But she's going for the kill now. She looks right at my SB with smiling malice.
Gabby: Are you still mad because Tyler won't say that he loves you.
I must admit, I laugh at that and Gabby laughs right along with me. SB and Sis are absolutely mortified.
Sis: We need to go, Gabby. I have to be at work at 2. Zangari, it was nice meeting you.
I pick up the tab for the table and Gabby gives me a hug. Sis shakes my hand & they leave.
SB: I need to explain something. My former boyfriend wants to get back with me but I told him I wasn't interested. That's who Gabby is talking about.
Z: It's ok, babe. Don't let it spoil your birthday. Let's go to the mall.
We drive to an upscale mall & I take care of her. We plan to spend some private time together afterwards. I don't care about her BF--I always assume an SB has a BF. For the last two months, she's been really good about ignoring him when we're together. But as we're driving back, *someone* starts blowing up her cell.
SB: I have to go home--my mom's having a party and everyone is there.
Z: Having a family get-together, babe?
SB: Yes.
Z: Your Sis had to go to work at 2.
A curious moment passes between us. I'm smiling at her and her face is stricken. It's like 3 pm on a weekday afternoon, an odd time for a family birthday. Most people (like me & Sis) are usually at work.
SB: My mom and Sis…they don't talk.
The game is over now. I drop her off at her car and hand over her shopping bags.
SB: We're still meeting tomorrow, right?
Z: Happy birthday, babe.
She stands at the passenger door for the longest time. There's not going to be a tomorrow. She takes her shopping bags, closes the door and walks back to her car. End of arrangement. And It's not because she has a boyfriend. Gabby told me all about him, but I took care of my SB on her birthday anyway. Then she gets a few texts & hangs me out to dry. End of Arrangement. --
but why buy into it in the first place?
As I said on the GD Board, it's the worst of both worlds, in a way.
If you were to fly on United Airlines with this gal, their stock would go up 10 points alone for the baggage fees
It's the cheap person who pays more in the end.
I'd rather pay the price and know I'm getting the right stuff
Guys talk about the "Girlfriend Experience" while they're on the clock for 60 minutes. That's not a "girlfriend" anything. We've both been around for a long time, Fisher. My guess is when your ATF took you off the clock, that's when you fell for her. When my P411 ATF took me off the clock after our second session, we started a quasi-sugar arrangement for nearly three years. In P4P, that's a long time. An SB or an ATF you remember. The "60 minute" girls are forgettable. --z
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All things both good and bad eventually come to an end. As long as you keep the proper frame of mind, and part of that is assuming that all younger women are going to have some other man in their life, you can have all this fun on your own terms.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained by calling out your SB for the little (or even big) lies she tells as long as you don't buy into them. It's like trying to "catch" them cheating on you. What a complete waste of time, all women will always give you some reason to get out of the relationship when you are ready, and it's even easier with hookers/Sugarbabies.
Let me pretext my input by saying that I do not with to change this subject and go off at a tangent!
I recently saw a graph of estrogen spike in women (strength and quantity vs age) and interestingly the 3 prominent peaks of such spikes happen in these three phases:
1- 17-18
2- 24-25
3- 34-35
Think of these spikes rather as bell curves and not as lift off / crash and burn, to demonstrate the effectiveness of the estrogen release in the human female system in years immediately before and after the peaks. In other words, we are creatures which are designed by Nature in order to procreate to ensure the survival of the species.
Once older men revisit this simple notion (was it Socrates who had said, "learning is remembering"?) they should have no delusions about the monogamous nature of a much younger woman, or rather there lack of. Societal and cultural advancements have been suppressing the natural desires, but those suppressions often become quite futile when faced with raging sexual hormones. In a SD / SB dynamic, the older SD's weapon of choice to ward off a younger BF material is the female desire for hypergamy and financial security. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose!
When I was young I used to wonder "what's that hot chick doing with that old fuck?" Now I am that "old fuck" and I know exactly what the two of them were doing. lol
kinder to Zangari on this thread because I don't actually enjoy slapping the snot out all the time and he does try to open up sheeples' eyes as far as SD / SB dynamics go. Many mongers who stumble upon that side of the curtains through fcuk boards such as this one, ought to be quite aware of the pitfalls and the very tricky terrains of the SD/SB paradigm. FWIW, here is an article from last year written by a professional SB (she was previously dating a former band member of Matchbox 20 in their haydays)
Kink:
Ashley is a part-time stand up comedienne. But as we know, comedy is probably one of the most effective methods to deliver a truthful message! For those who are interested in Seeking Arrangements (the site), thy do have a blog which is a bit hard to find, but still worthwhile to glance through once in a while. A lot of the long term regulars on that blog can be nefarious characters with agendas. Pretty much same as most websites 
It takes too much effort and I can't afford any "complication" so I will keep it simple and stick to providers. Thanks for the info though.
A very reasonable decision. SBs work for some of us, but your time is very limited. Finding a good SB would require too much time and effort. And there is an increased risk of drama.
Been on SA three separate times in between and alongside hobby'ing. I "sampled" between 21 to 35 YO. Just like the Hobby, once they are past 30's, they are mostly lying about their true age by as much as 10 years.
My criteria has been (i am guessing) quite different to Z's because I am single and no SO in the picture. Also, I typically do not go for under 25's because I actually like to spend time outside and not just BCD! I have never been worried about physical congruencies, but the 25 > behavior in many social settings leave me concerned.
Many SB > 25 turned out to be transplants ( as So. Cal is a hotbed for transients) in immediate and dire need of rent, transportation and the basics; hence influx into the SB market. Many balk initially at the 300-400 per meet, but if you give them a chance to acclimate to the SD/SB paradigm, some will come back if you play your cards right. Eacj time it took me about 3 month to find a "steady" and each time it didn't last beyond 3 month. A lot of time and $ wasting in between on the chase and the meetings.
I found WYP to be an even worse avenue to venture down than SA and I am sworn not to enrich the pockets of Brandon Wade (an alias) again. I enjoy the more organic approach to SD/SB and they are out there if you know what to look for. It could be your ATF provider, the gal who serves your food at the restaurant or the gal who cuts your hair! Of course all of these pertain to single men and if one is married or has other forms of SO, best to stick to providers or those youngin SBs whom Z likes to go for.
You need to meet her expectations to a certain extent. I hope you guys are taking care of yourselves: running, lifting, staying fit. And you need to dress well. I have to believe that if your 'hobby' is sex, then you're already doing these things. If not, then nothing I post on this board will help you. Sorry, --
Sifting through profiles, contacting them, waiting to hear back, developing a rapport, meeting, and hoping she shows up. All those things take time. Some guys get lucky with the first woman they contact, other guys have to contact 20-30 before getting a good lead. It takes a lot more time than arranging a session with a pro. I prefer the SB option, but I have the time for those things. Some guys don't have the time ... or don't want to spend the time.
The complication is at my end. It's not that hard for me to find 2 hours (a week) for hobby, but it gets really complicated for me if it's 4+ hours.