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Wow, TTB, I sure don't agree with your definitions at all.
atl_mgr 2152 reads
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Not that I'm necessarily right, but here's the way I see it:

GFE - girlfriend experience, that typically includes a more 'romantic' and unrushed setting, and includes small talk, cuddling, and services including dfk, bbbj, daty, msog, and mpcfs, usually delivered in a 'loving' fashion (although they can also be heated).

Non-GFE sessions do not include all of those services, and are much more likely to exclude kissing, and offer only cbj and 'one-n-done'.

PSE - porn star experience, and not necessarily with an actual or ex-porn star.  These sessions are usually more hard-core and heated in nature, with the encouraging visual and audio cues associated with porn flicks.  Services usually include the typical GFE fare (without the 'romantic setting, small talk, and cuddling), along with either CIM/facial (but not always), russian, and occasionally asian and/or greek.

Those 'extra' PSE services are not usually available in typical GFE sessions, although YMMV per specific provider and her preferences.

These definitions sum up my experience in the hobby so far.  However, there are many providers who advertise GFE who do not deliver...  and the reviews help weed out those who don't.

TheStarGazer4511 reads

I wasn't active in the hobby for many years. When I returned much had changed.

Can someone tell me the difference between GFE and PSE? What is the dividing line? When does one stop and the other start? For that matter, I'm not even really sure I understand the difference between just FS and GFE.

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atl_mgr3222 reads

You will find over 100 posts (many recent) that have dicussed the topic at length.

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talltexanboy2197 reads

GFE is just the new code for FS in terms of what you can get/expect. PSE would only differ from GFE in that you are likely paying a premium for someone who has performed on camera and (at least for some) has some name recognition in that industry.

But in terms of what you'll receive, it's all the same thing. Of course, that's only as accurate as what the women themselves think the acronyms mean and there is not universal agreement on that.

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atl_mgr2153 reads

Not that I'm necessarily right, but here's the way I see it:

GFE - girlfriend experience, that typically includes a more 'romantic' and unrushed setting, and includes small talk, cuddling, and services including dfk, bbbj, daty, msog, and mpcfs, usually delivered in a 'loving' fashion (although they can also be heated).

Non-GFE sessions do not include all of those services, and are much more likely to exclude kissing, and offer only cbj and 'one-n-done'.

PSE - porn star experience, and not necessarily with an actual or ex-porn star.  These sessions are usually more hard-core and heated in nature, with the encouraging visual and audio cues associated with porn flicks.  Services usually include the typical GFE fare (without the 'romantic setting, small talk, and cuddling), along with either CIM/facial (but not always), russian, and occasionally asian and/or greek.

Those 'extra' PSE services are not usually available in typical GFE sessions, although YMMV per specific provider and her preferences.

These definitions sum up my experience in the hobby so far.  However, there are many providers who advertise GFE who do not deliver...  and the reviews help weed out those who don't.

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talltexanboy2948 reads

Seems to me you are arguing about the "extras". I read the original post to ask if there are differences in terms of the sex received.

Yes, there are difference that might mean something to some people but, in terms of the main course, they are roughly the same.

I agree and mentioned previously that it varies  based on who you see.

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TheStarGazer2931 reads

Good information. I think you are probably right in that the extras of PSE may be as defined by the provider. Maybe some day I'll check out one of those that has a PSE offering above and beyond GFE.

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keystonekid3506 reads

Biggest difference is the $$$.  A PSE can be more than triple a well reviewed GFE.

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Tori Of ATL3251 reads

I have no problem being considered a GFE. When I over hear or read anyone referring to an encounter with me along the PSE lines I try to clarify it.

As ATL-mgr stated- with GFE I would consider anything that is the "ideal" girlfriend experience to be in keeping with the term. (*as he said DFK, BBBJ, unlimited pops, unlimited cuddling, talking, etc etc*)

A PSE on the other hand would involve many of the mannerisms and behaviors normally witnessed on a Porn Movie (*thus Porn Star Experience*)
Facials, overzealous mannerisms, dramatic oral & any positioning and expression normally viewed on a Pornographic movie.

I definitely would not consider the experiences to be the same (*by any stretch of the imagination*) I have a few, but limited, true PSE associations in the biz and trust me there is much more than just the measure of the donation left!!  

I truly believe PSE, like any art when experienced in a true fashion is definitely in a class by itself.

But who am I to chime in???? I believe a true GFE is in a class by itself *LOL*

Just my 02 cents .... kisses ~T


** now note the learning example-
In the photo below: If you, (as a gentleman) happen to be present and watching it could still possibly be a GFE.... however, if you get involved and give direction based on the last 67 Porn movies that you have memorized, it could easily turn into a PSE  (*LOL*)

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keystonekid4342 reads

I agree with most of what you said. My post above was the "cliff notes version."

Now, about your example, not sure if I could be the director and be able to just watch.  You and your friend might just be a reason to take a trip to hotlanta.  BTW, I am only able to memorize 38 porn movies.

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Tori Of ATL2124 reads

I think I had just a little too much sweet tea earlier.... I seemed to have been in a "mood" (*.....you think??...LOL*)

Only 38?... and you aren't even ashamed of that hmmmm, you might be just my type LOL

Thank you for noticing my post and for catching my humor..... kisses ~T

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