The remember first time I saw Cami last July during conversation she told me that she had to meet a certain profile to work for Bruce as do all the girls. She said he only hired inexperienced girls because the girls with experience, the normal agency girls, had too many bad habits, rules and restrictions such as no bbbj, no daty, no dfk, etc. They were all about cash and dash and upselling. She said that Bruce did not want to be like the other agencies. She also told me that he had changed her life for the better, that she had just bought a new Caddy and that Bruce treater her very, very well and that she was very happy to work for him.. Does that sound like exploitation, or Bruce being predatory?? You should have all of the facts before you comment. You are so wrong once again.
My name is Bruce. I am the owner of Pretty Maids In A Row. There is no buck to pass because everything starts and ends with me. For the past 3 years it has been my policy to not respond personally to any claims or allegations on this board because it was always my belief that time would take care of all of them and show them for the crap they are. So far that has been the case, until now. LJ, I called you personally to respond to your claims of my being LE and not surprisingly, I got your voicemail and left you a message. I DID NOT THREATEN YOU! Let me share with the readers of this board, which is a discussion board and not the rumor mill that you are trying to turn it into, a little about or past. We have spoken on the phone on a few occasions at great length about this business; we have even helped each other in the screening process. My first observation about you was that you didn't have anything good to say about anyone, especially other providers. On time you called to ask me if you could refer clients to me because the current provider you were doing this with had not paid you any kickbacks. I politely told you that I do not pay kickbacks, and that was the end of that. If I were LE, why would you do such a thing? If you don't admit to this, you are a liar! My screening process is so strict that I turn 1/3 of my callers away, and I'm LE??
Your next question was where I find these girls. I advertise for inexperienced girls in a few different local publications and choose my girls very carefully. I have only the best. They are all GFE/PSE. I have had 37 different girls work for me in the past 3 years. My current lineup of Alex, Anna, Cami, Gina, Spain and Hayden is the strongest yet. Their average age is 22.5 years old. You are more than twice their age and maybe this is the root of your problem. I have over 1,000 clients and still continue to pick up 25 new clients each week. Is it so unrealistic that with that many clients a certain number of them would use my service and no other because they are happy with Pretty Maids? Pretty Maids is all about customer service. That's why many people feel very strongly about us and continue to call us time and time again. I will accept nothing less that perfection. I am not self-promoting, as you suggested, you hear my clients say this time and time again in their reviews, and as a competitor, for lack of a better term, it must bother you that we're so successful where no other agency has been in Las Vegas, and I am very proud of that fact whether you like it or not!
As to the many claims of false or fake reviews. Again, there are many clients, local or otherwise who are very enthusiastic about our service and they express it in their reviews. That is not to say that they are fake, because they are not. I do not accept bad reviews on any of the girls. If this happens, it is addressed. I do not write these reviews as it has been suggested. Do we ask the clients to write reviews? Of course! Word of mouth is the best advertising there is in this business. It is never forced upon them. Did a client ever say in their review that we forced them to write it? Of course not. This business is very much the luck of the draw. One girl will see 10 clients and one is a review writer. Another girl will see 5 and 4 are review writers. That is why we always ask the client to write a review. Cindy Spice has always said this is not an agency. Ask any of the Pretty Maids the same question and they will tell you that it is. Pretty Maids In A Row is an agency. The big difference is it's like using 6 Cindy's under the same umbrella. The way we conduct business you would never know that it's an agency and that is by design. I started this business from a customer’s standpoint, and we have been successful beyond our wildest dreams
It is not my intention to respond to any future postings on this board. I think that is best. LJ, I just wanted to clear the air and respond to your idiotic posting and let the world know the truth about you. I only wish that you were women enough to have taken my call, but I'm sure you got my message. I take this business very seriously and as such had to respond to you. You said that I was "I little over the top". I'm here to say that you are "a little over the hill", but again, I DID NOT THREATEN YOU! Thanks to many of you who have come to Pretty Maids defense on this board. Your business and comments are very much appreciated by both the girls and myself. I'll blend back into the woodwork now.
Bruce
I have been a client of yours many times with several of your girls. Everything you say is true.
Dealing with you and your girls has always been a pleasure. You and they are always professional and very customer service oriented.
Keep up the good work. All industries need more people like you.
Yours is Not A Business as You Claim – it is an Exploitive Criminal Enterprise – Shame!------
By your own words you recruit “inexperienced girls” and then turn them out. What an ugly concept. A most base and vile activity.
The warning you send is that your Enterprise is large, clearly egocentric and very likely to attract attention (of the bad kind). I for one am very glad I am not in your database of 1000’s – just in case it falls into the hands of those paid to investigate such things. I am glad you are retuning to simply “lurking”. It is an activity that suits you and all the pseudonyms you review and post under. Now please slink away.
HBS1, WHO ARE YOU ? WELL IT LOOKS TO ME THAT YOU ARE A VERY BIG FAN OF LJ MONTANA! YOU GAVE HER 2 10s, THATS YOUR GIRL, ISNT IT? NO BIG DEAL,I UNDERSTAND ,YOU KNOCK BRUCE DOWN TO HELP GOOD OLD LJ, COOL. HOPES SHE APPRECIATES IT, HEARING OF HER PROBABLY NOT. SO TO ALL, CHECK OUT HBS1'S REVIEW OF LJ.BET ITS REALLY GOOD.
Please do –as well as the other 9 – all of Independents
Then check out the definition of “shill”
Its Wake Up and Smell the Coffee Time---- Whoever you are----
It should be no secret to anyone with even minimal command of the English language to know from this board that LJ is a fav of mine. No secret at all – we barb each other all the time (even within this thread). And that is who I am – never an alias – never hiding, never making up reviews, never pretending to be anything or anyone other than me. Proud of it – warts and all. And I never trashed Bruce Almighty – I only objected to his methods and the duplicity regarding his operations as they are presented on the board. Now let me think why you would be so offended by that? Hmmmmmmm?
NOT OFFENDED, JUST IN DISBELIEF ,THAT IS A BIG ACCUSATION, WHATEVER MAN , YOU DONT KNOW BRUCE, NEVER USED THE SERVICE, AND YOU JUST WONT STOP AND IF IT REALLY MATTERS TO YOU BRUCE IS MY FRIEND, DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT, I WILL ALWAYS HELP OUT A FRIEND... THANKS DUDE.
Did you know that your keyboard has a CAPS LOCK KEY?
It is the very criminality of this wonderful hobby we all love so much that is the real hypocrasy. Those who espouse the legitimacy of the criminality of sex and money are simply those forcing their pseudo-ethics and morality of those of us who know better.
I have seen LJ Montana and she was wonderful. I have used Bruce's service numerous times and found it to be equally wonderful. He is not exploiting anyone, and is doing both the girls he employs and his clients a great service.
Jacksonlips
It is not the sex that is exploitive – his statement that he “advertise[s] for inexperienced girls in a few different local publications” that is offensive. To my way of thinking, this is predatory. It is no better than cruising buss stations looking for runaways to turn out. Further – he is making money off their backs (literally). From Their body to His Pocket. It is this ilk that sully an otherwise honorable relationship between a man and a woman. From everything in his post he is simply a flesh peddler and peep show monger.
Our favorite ladies of this board and profession are independents, living their own lives – beholden only to themselves (at least as much as any of us can). It is this strength of independence that makes Nikki, Cindy, Roxanne, LJ, Jessica and the others so damn hot and fun to be with. For me, it is knowing we can play the game and both players profit. We, the players profit – not some Pimp.
Add to that some obvious deceptive (just look at the language and tone of his several posts in the threads) practices – well, as I said – I am most happy that I am not in his database. And, I am confident that my activities have been with ladies with complete free choice and that they reap full rewards of their efforts. It is not clear that patrons of B.A.M can say the same.
Party Hearty and leave the Lice to the Dog
well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm striving in earnest not laughing at us as MAN to exploit woman's existence on this Earth. Someone once posted here instructing "Get a Life" to others. Damn, I'll need sex now so I could feel relaxed and no superficial morality. Just my $.0001.
Many of the girls in this business started at agencies but left because they were not treated well. All were "looking" for something whether in an ad in a local publication or by word of mouth from a friend. Bruce is not picking up girls in bus stops or shopping malls. The girls are the ones who are looking. I don't see this as predatory.
I have never seen LJ and am still shocked that she would make such an egregious claim about another provider or agency. It seems out of character based on her many reviews.
As I have said before, I have seen Bruce's ladies several times (even though I have only reviewed one) and each time was exactly as promised.
I wish all this back stabbing would stop - it reminds me of the presidential election.
sGFE
If not Predatory then Why----
Why would he say he looks for “inexperienced” girls? Consider that – --- he only recruits inexperienced girls. His own statment.
would`nt work for him>??? has this ever entered into the equation>>>oh by the way.. " There is a new sheriff in town.."
Majority of the inexperienced people are willing to work for someone in order to gain experience, reputation and contacts....
Majority of the experienced people want to be their own boss....
THAT IS A GOOD POINT, HEAR THAT, MAYBE THAT COULD BE IT . YA THINK OR MAYBE SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK FOR SOMEONE, EVERYBODY DOESNT THINK LIKE THIS , UNFORTUNATE WORKING FOR YOUSELF IS NOT SO EASY, I CANT IMAGINE GOING THROUGH WHAT I KNOW ALL OF THE GREAT GALS IN THE CITY DO, SOME PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, YA THINK???? RE; HBS1'S OPINION AGAIN,
Just because he is looking for inexperienced girls doesn't make him predatory. Is he exploiting them? I'm not sure that is a term that everyone in this hobby isn't guilty of from time to time. I think you are hung up on the idea that he is luring them into a trap when, in fact, all he does is post classified ads that they search out, read, and reply to with their own free will.
All the girls in this business were inexperienced at one time, and again, all are looking for something which they apparently found. And let's face it, LV is ground zero for exploitation with greed, alcohol, and sex the most common tools used to accomplish the task.
I have no motive in defending Bruce other than he has been completely honest with me and many others. The few ladies that I have seen from his service give him compliments for watching out for them. I'm sure there are others who feel otherwise.
Why don't you try them and let us know if you still feel the same way?
I appreciate Your Honesty and Reputation –
There area few others in this thread that are a bit more suspect --- as to PM – I simply do not “do” agencies. I respect the dignity and strength of the Independent.
THATS WAY COOL BRO, SO THAT IS YOUR OPINION, NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE INDEPENDANT, SO WHY HATE OTHERS THAT CANT DO WHAT "YOU" THINK THEY SHOULD . SOME PEOPLE NEED STRUCTURE....... OK
inexperienced = young,fresh and new to this activity. i am an older gentleman and i like to talk to the girls first. one of the girls i was with from pretty maids told me she answered an add and talked to bruce and this is exactly what she wanted to do. she was working in a store getting six or seven bucks an hour. she couldn't believe how much money she was making. she was very happy and into making me happy too. i gave her the donation and some more $. the girl i am talking about later left bruce........and then came back.
The remember first time I saw Cami last July during conversation she told me that she had to meet a certain profile to work for Bruce as do all the girls. She said he only hired inexperienced girls because the girls with experience, the normal agency girls, had too many bad habits, rules and restrictions such as no bbbj, no daty, no dfk, etc. They were all about cash and dash and upselling. She said that Bruce did not want to be like the other agencies. She also told me that he had changed her life for the better, that she had just bought a new Caddy and that Bruce treater her very, very well and that she was very happy to work for him.. Does that sound like exploitation, or Bruce being predatory?? You should have all of the facts before you comment. You are so wrong once again.
This discussion between LJ and Bruce is complicated and unfortunate, but I'm actually hearing both of them very well. It's unfortunate because both are really on the same team.
About the "P" word? You'd be surprised who in this town is advertised as independent yet is very much pimped out (in the strict Cindy Spice definition of the word). One very pricey example comes immediately to mind. I'm surprised at your thoughts because you've certainly lived here long enough to see it for yourself. But then again, I was plying my craft when you were likely sleeping.
Meaning no disrespect to Bruce, the agency business is not one of a real man's millieu. He may well be very good at it, but it's hard for me to take seriously a man who could do no better in life than make money off a woman's body. This is more of a cultural thing with me, and I suspect it may be one with you as well.
If I have time, I will have more later.
Every one participate in this hobby do not like moral judgement from other people. When you take away that moral judgement, then there is no difference between any kind of agent making money out of the people they represent(modeling, sport or movie agent etc) and a p*** making money out of some one's look and body.
So why does it matter it is a male or female agent..
If you want to use that moral judgement to judge someone then use it on everybody in this hobby that include yourself....
By LAW definition , Pimping is someone ( man or women ) who derives income from the earnings of a prostitute .
Pandering is - The act or offense of recruiting a prostitute, finding a place of business for a prostitute, or soliciting customers for a prostitute.
There is a reason Pimping and Pandering is a Felony , while prostitution is just a misdemeanor.
"Independent" doesn't mean a girl doesn't have a P .................one has nothing to do with the other.
Independent means the girl isn't working for an agency.
But I don't get what pricey example are you talking about ??
Well, Ladies & Gentleman, I'm striving in earnest not to laugh at us men for exploiting woman on this Earth in all aspect in life. As long as us men who enjoy this hobby why are we attempt to be self rightous. I need a provider now to celebrate my sexual pleasure, so I could feel relaxed and not superficially high moral, LOL LOL
and clueless.. Don`t you get it at all.. DUDE.. its illegal as hell what you are doing.. L.E doesn`t give a rats ass about us escorts.( especially the ones that are paying their taxes and not doing drugs>>. I have 2 s corps)... BUT they do NOT LIKE AGENCYS in town.. man.. all I am saying is this.. Don`t be so public about pimping and pandering..>> and I hope you are paying your taxes.. !>>as for kickbacks.. lets see.. if understand this.. If I excepted that.. I would be you!!!..???? wow.. you are a rocket scientist.. You proved my claim!!.. Now.. I want everyone to know.. there is a new bet in town.. How long will it take Bruce from Pretty Maids to figure this all out.."..lets see.. ask Angella Masters and Logan, Jackie J ,Kit, and on and on.. iF I have ever mentioned KICKBACKS>>???????? I wish Jenni would post something.. >>LOL>>!
Yes , teach.. I will slow down and proof read my posts from now on.. cause you never know who might be reading them!!!!!
But then again.. does it really matter.. as.. no one gets it anywyas..( anyways)..( wink wink) .!!!!
of your heart, and here I thought you were getting kickbacks from the girls.. well. now.. I see you in a whole different light. Thanks for the explanation!!. sorry everyone!!
Bruce's girls have never stood me up. You have. Bruce's girls have never tried to hustle me. You have. Bruce's girls have never played games with me. You have.
why do we all have to continue dwelling on this,personally, I am sick and tired.arent you guys? We are all supossed to be on the same side ,right,providers, hobbiests, we got to stick together,we all paricipate in illegall activities, right? so what.If I committed a murder, as an example,its murder reguardless wether I used a gun or a fucking head of lettuce, it dont matter,so seriously now, this shit is for the birds, I think Ill call bruce right now , to see anna or gina, who knows, but be sure you can read it all in my reviews, peace guys. TL
I wrote a message Fri night suggesting moving along......as, I would guess, many here might feel. It never got posted !!! I'm a peaceful man, here to have fun and share ideas with like minded.
NOW YOU APPEAR ....with EXACTLY.......an example of what LJ started the thread with.....
Here are more reviews, under even ANOTHER handle with such unrealistic praises for BRUCE and his agency??????
Bruce.....you knocked yourself out!!! STUPID
And, his girls.......do it for YOURSELF !!!!!!!
You guys accuse everyone of being Bruce! HBS1 accused me of being Bruce! He's everywhere, he's everywhere! You guys call him stupid, a pimp, a sexual predator, trash. Isn't that slander? It's easy to hide behind some handle and call names. Did he resort to calling you people names in his post? No. It seems he is not only a great business man, but also a gentleman. The funny thing is, none of you who are making these claims have ever used Pretty Maids. The fact that this guy has been so successful in this city is now mind boggling to me. All of you that try to bring him down are all locals I'm sure and you have your certain Indy favorites, namely LJ. From the other side of the fence this is very obvious to me. You have made Bruce and Pretty Maids a household word. You are accomplishing just the opposite of what you're trying to do. You keep throwing his name out there and keep promoting his business. If he's seeing all of this, I'm sure he's pretty pleased. Right on!
I just saw Alex the other night and was delighted, so I submitted a review of her. Am I going to be accused of being Bruce too? I just moved here and am finding this board to be very cut throat. Some of you are seem very angry and mean. Just my thoughts.
I think most of us have had enough of the threads on this issue. It was interesting for a while but it appears that most of the arguments on both sides have been made.
I'm moving on....
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THANK GOD , GREAT IDEA , DONT WE ALL WISH IT WAS THAT EASY