Obviously things vary between providers, but some things have to be a given...i mean if a provider said no DFK that would be a pretty lousy GFE.....
of course a true GFE might be more like three hours of begging, 1 hour of DATY then jerking of in the bathroom..................And what your version is when when we call to make our appointment.
Tony
Read the reviews, get verified, and then ask...
As the below thread suggests, nothing is 100% clear...some ladies may answer, some may not, and many will simply reply " read my reviews "
Is so overused here in Boston and so I'll defined. I want to know what to expect when I meet a Lad
Tony
Just messing with you!
I don't think it's isolated to Boston, if in fact it's being overused...I only know what I offer and I'm fairly certain it falls under GFE.
Now, my question is...what the hell are you guys looking for when you ask about *true* GFE or *ultra* GFE?
If I offer COF, can I advertise as PSE?
None of the terms can be clearly defined nor determined...GFE vs. PSE, CBJ isn't GFE, and so on and so forth
Yes I did. Thank you Mara.
As someone mentioned in the other thread, GFE is like the word pornography. I can't describe it but I know it when I see it. Oh, and you are certainly GFE!
.... almost surprised there are not as many debates about what is PSE lol.
I used to think you could only claim to be PSE if you were actually a porn star...then it, PSE, became certain acts...then, PSE and GFE became criss-crossed. Meaning, at some point COF, etc. meant PSE...amongst other acts such as Golden Shower.
Then, some of those acts became an expected from a GFE?
In an ideal world, if you P4P, you get exactly what you expect...to a certain point you should.
Something for the gents to remember, don't treat it like P4P. Just go with ir
...might be more ymmv than whatever version people have of GFE for themselves lol I can't deal.
So....yeah read reviews, her p411 or whatever but really whoever you choose it's probably best to just go with the flow vs making each date a mission to check acronyms off of a list (mental).
Obviously things vary between providers, but some things have to be a given...i mean if a provider said no DFK that would be a pretty lousy GFE.....
of course a true GFE might be more like three hours of begging, 1 hour of DATY then jerking of in the bathroom..................
I read the post below and it appears Tony that the term GFE is subjective. I can understand the frustration but honestly if your "GFE" lady in question has reviews...... all of the points of interest are covered (no pun intended). If you are VIP there shouldn't be a question whether she is GFE or not. A quick scan and you have all of the questions asked. LFK, DFK, CBJ, BBBJ, swallow/or not, greek/or not, etc. If the issue is what her use of GFE includes, its all right at the top of her profile. Read, if your version of GFE is different..... on to the next. Need insurance that her details are correct? Read the reviews! Asking over the phone or in text, email is inappropriate because the answer will include sexual acts. If she doesn't have reviews then you are taking a chance and may be disappointed if her GFE is not your GFE. Only way around a subjective definition is for TER to give a GFE standard definition. As it stands there is room for interpretation as I see from reading the post below. Always boils down to the same thing; you guys have to do your homework. Our profiles/reviews cover it all. Until we see legalization (won't hold my breath) asking what her version of gfe includes will put her at risk for a dance with a judge.
It's a $300 to 600 per hour investment on average...it's no ya Roth IRA or new car or house the investment isn't that big! Join VIP read reviews look at pictures and make an appointment ...your not applying for a job or college it's a one hour commitment if it's not perfect try again when you have the money.
Keep it simple stupid ..Kiss theory and you'll enjoy yourself. I get the vibe these people get ulcers worrying if they are gonna get a jimmy on their dick before they get blown and are forgetting this is a pleasurable experience if you relax a bit!
Great discussion and plenty of opinions.
Tony
Tony
Just to be fair, I offer BFE to most of the ladies I spend time with. After we are done, I ask for a sandwich, and to borrow money and her car. I stole this BFE "joke" from TER many years ago, but, I do like to reassert it on occasion.