The Erotic Highway
Your post is confusing . If you made it up , very creative and original .
If true , I'm not sure if you are terrified of rejection or something much
deeper .
If you would elaborate on the civilian woman that asked you to fuck her and you didn't complete her request , might help .
If you find 90% of woman are attractive to your eyes and mind , you "should" have more success than a grizzly at the Kinea river salmon run , once you convince yourself , no doesn't really hurt .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcJ_63z-mA
If you can find the will to start dating and you become more selective, best not look for a gold mine until you can recognize fools gold .
Just like driving you have to read the signs women give . Go on green , caution on yellow ,
and stop on red . Slow down if she doesn't enjoy speeding .
You are correct , NO has happened on the way to first base or further with many teenagers and also adults . If a guy says says he hasn't had a lady say no when asked out, or turn her head after the first date , he hasn't had many dates or he's withholding the truth .
No ! often means maybe another day , if you don't push the request .
No has happened to me many times when asking a civilian out in my adult life . I have also heard no, then yes when I asked again a few months later .
I can't take no any more personal than being thrown off a horse . Best to shake the dust off and get back on .
Your ending statements are confusing . I don't agree with civilian women not being visual . Some aren't visual , most are to some degree , though a large majority will claim in public they are not .
No matter how much you make her smile and laugh, if she is attracted to the Jude Law type guy and you resemble Jason Somoa it's going to be difficult to change her perception of you and the sports you play together .
If you really think men are disgusting and a lady friend says she loves all Johnny Depp movies , never tell her you don't think he's hot . That will get you nowhere quick .
If you can't admit there are at least two handsome male actors in Hollywood , there is much more to your deeply rooted issue than your teen age days GF saying No .
I wish I could help . The only thing I am fairly certain of , Hobbying won't help you " learn" the dating game or romance .
Best of luck .
Why, you ask ????? .......... after so many years of a normal event ?????....................
My advances made a girl have to be uncomfortable and say " no " . It just still affects me today that my actions did that .
I can't let it go , and it effects me still today 20 years later .............I NEVER want my actions to make another person to feel that way !!!!!
It effects me to where I am a GENTLEMAN to the core . I admire , respect and NEVER want to offend a woman in any way .
I have NEVER had a girlfriend , or even a date in 20 + years . Some due to my constant travel but LARGELY due to me not being able to cross the " border " from the respectable gentelman zone into the " I find you completly HOT, I wanna fuck you now zone "!!! I JUST CANNOT SEEM TO DO IT !!!!!
I know women want to be found sexy and desired .............No problem ...................
BUTTTTT....................
I have no clue when the " flirtatious " advances she makes are OK to switch to where I reallly want to go . I can read them , don't get me wrong ....................But when they are in my face I still flash back and stay on the side of caution and just remain a " gentleman ". I FREEZE !!!!
I have even had some women comment they thought I was gay ! Yeah , that helped
I find them sexy and desired ...........................But I FREEZE at the changeover point . I mean I FREEZE , and would rather stay a gentleman and leave them alone than risk being so forward that I offend another person .
EVEN when the " clues " are in my face - just shy of her saying " fuck me " .
OH YEAH ......................I had a woman say " I want you to fuck me" while moving my hand to her tit , and I fucked that up .................Seriously I did !
Had a FINE little mexican 20 year old wearing some thigh high boots ( Man that was HOT ) when she knew I would be at the restaurant ..............Yep , fucked that up ! She was not wearing those for NO reason, as we had some eye and verbal flirtations in the past .
Why can't I crosss the " gentleman " border ?
A side note that is important ..............I look at guys like a machine - what the hell could be attractive about a printing press ? Men are just not attractive things ................
I know women are not visual like men , but there still is some visual attraction from women and I have NO CLUE what , or , WHY , that is - Men are disgusting to look at !!!! Are you PROGRAMMED like men, that we are just an attractive thing ?????
I can look at 90% of women and find something attractive !
Its even gone so far that I can't even hobby now , as I feel so self concense during "the deed " that I have to stop . I thought if I paid for sex that it would overcome things but it has not ...............
I need help from the womem here ..................
-- Modified on 7/7/2012 3:48:17 PM
A tragic event in my childhood needs to be put out front .............Typical horny teenagers and I was messing around in a dimly lit bedroom with my " girlfriend " at age 16 . I slid my hand to the boob region and was told " NO , please stop " . Probably it has happened to many teenagers but it hit me hard and I still hold on to it at age 45 today .
Why, you ask ????? .......... after so many years of a normal event ?????....................
My advances made a girl have to be uncomfortable and say " no " . It just still affects me today that my actions did that .
I can't let it go , and it effects me still today 20 years later .............I NEVER want my actions to make another person to feel that way !!!!!
It effects me to where I am a GENTLEMAN to the core . I admire , respect and NEVER want to offend a woman in any way .
I have NEVER had a girlfriend , or even a date in 20 + years . Some due to my constant travel but LARGELY due to me not being able to cross the " border " from the respectable gentelman zone into the " I find you completly HOT, I wanna fuck you now zone "!!! I JUST CANNOT SEEM TO DO IT !!!!!
I know women want to be found sexy and desired .............No problem ...................
BUTTTTT....................
I have no clue when the " flirtatious " advances she makes are OK to switch to where I reallly want to go . I can read them , don't get me wrong ....................But when they are in my face I still flash back and stay on the side of caution and just remain a " gentleman ". I FREEZE !!!!
I have even had some women comment they thought I was gay ! Yeah , that helped
I find them sexy and desired ...........................But I FREEZE at the changeover point . I mean I FREEZE , and would rather stay a gentleman and leave them alone than risk being so forward that I offend another person .
EVEN when the " clues " are in my face - just shy of her saying " fuck me " .
OH YEAH ......................I had a woman say " I want you to fuck me" while moving my hand to her tit , and I fucked that up .................Seriously I did !
Had a FINE little mexican 20 year old wearing some thigh high boots ( Man that was HOT ) when she knew I would be at the restaurant ..............Yep , fucked that up ! She was not wearing those for NO reason, as we had some eye and verbal flirtations in the past .
Why can't I crosss the " gentleman " border ?
A side note that is important ..............I look at guys like a machine - what the hell could be attractive about a printing press ? Men are just not attractive things ................
I know women are not visual like men , but there still is some visual attraction from women and I have NO CLUE what , or , WHY , that is - Men are disgusting to look at !!!! Are you PROGRAMMED like men, that we are just an attractive thing ?????
I can look at 90% of women and find something attractive !
Its even gone so far that I can't even hobby now , as I feel so self concense during "the deed " that I have to stop . I thought if I paid for sex that it would overcome things but it has not ...............
I need help from the womem here ..................
-- Modified on 7/7/2012 3:48:17 PM
Why, you ask ????? .......... after so many years of a normal event ?????....................
My advances made a girl have to be uncomfortable and say " no " . It just still affects me today that my actions did that .
I can't let it go , and it effects me still today 20 years later .............I NEVER want my actions to make another person to feel that way !!!!!
It effects me to where I am a GENTLEMAN to the core . I admire , respect and NEVER want to offend a woman in any way .
I have NEVER had a girlfriend , or even a date in 20 + years . Some due to my constant travel but LARGELY due to me not being able to cross the " border " from the respectable gentelman zone into the " I find you completly HOT, I wanna fuck you now zone "!!! I JUST CANNOT SEEM TO DO IT !!!!!
I know women want to be found sexy and desired .............No problem ...................
BUTTTTT....................
I have no clue when the " flirtatious " advances she makes are OK to switch to where I reallly want to go . I can read them , don't get me wrong ....................But when they are in my face I still flash back and stay on the side of caution and just remain a " gentleman ". I FREEZE !!!!
I have even had some women comment they thought I was gay ! Yeah , that helped
I find them sexy and desired ...........................But I FREEZE at the changeover point . I mean I FREEZE , and would rather stay a gentleman and leave them alone than risk being so forward that I offend another person .
EVEN when the " clues " are in my face - just shy of her saying " fuck me " .
OH YEAH ......................I had a woman say " I want you to fuck me" while moving my hand to her tit , and I fucked that up .................Seriously I did !
Had a FINE little mexican 20 year old wearing some thigh high boots ( Man that was HOT ) when she knew I would be at the restaurant ..............Yep , fucked that up ! She was not wearing those for NO reason, as we had some eye and verbal flirtations in the past .
Why can't I crosss the " gentleman " border ?
A side note that is important ..............I look at guys like a machine - what the hell could be attractive about a printing press ? Men are just not attractive things ................
I know women are not visual like men , but there still is some visual attraction from women and I have NO CLUE what , or , WHY , that is - Men are disgusting to look at !!!! Are you PROGRAMMED like men, that we are just an attractive thing ?????
I can look at 90% of women and find something attractive !
Its even gone so far that I can't even hobby now , as I feel so self concense during "the deed " that I have to stop . I thought if I paid for sex that it would overcome things but it has not ...............
I need help from the womem here ..................
-- Modified on 7/7/2012 3:48:17 PM
You might also find that a role play session with a surrogate can be particularly helpful. Surrogates aren't necessarily there to help you have sex, but to help you learn how to approach sex from different ways.
Role play can be incredibly helpful. You and she discuss what you are trying to accomplish, decide on a scenario where you feel uncomfortable (not necessarily the most uncomfortable, but uncomfortable) and then create that scenario and progress through it in order to get you to a comfort level where you canthen moveon to more intimate moments.
For example...you are in a bar,and the woman sitting at the other end of the bar is obviously interested in you. As she is your surrogate, she might make the first move, you might have a script to follow in order to make the first move with her, etc.
The whole idea is to get you comfortable with the actions so you realize that their interest is OK. You are creating a boundary where none exists, and you need to be able to get past that boundary creation and get on with relationship creation
If you have any questions, feel free to ask, I will answer as best I can
K
