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For posting. I viewed the video on YouTube, and commented.
Unfortunately, Bree is correct. The world is full of judgmental people, who attempt to destroy your self-esteem, and humiliate people in all adult industry careers.
I know many of you don't appreciate when I speak about my faith in God. But if it weren't for my faith...Because of the hate I've had to endure for adult industry choices made in order to financially survive, I would not be around, today, to drive you CrAzY with my constant posts. God is my rock, and the only person I will ever allow to judge me!
IMHO, judgmental hate hurts worse than physical pain, because...Physical attacks heal, but psychological ones don't.
All I can say to the adult industry haters, is..."Judge not, lest ye be judged!"
Shawna Lenee (spelling?) called out Bree Olson about claiming to be broke. SL claims that BO is making $20,000 a month from MFC (is MFC a webcam site?).
That doesn't address the hater issue and being stigmatized and worse for having done porn
That doesn't address the hater issue and being stigmatized and worse for having done porn.
Mind you, I know neither of these women, and I could care less how much money they make, or if they lie about the amount.
Truly, wouldn't it be nice if instead of bickering amongst one another, like politicians, ALL adult industry workers would unite to fight against Slut-Shaming?!!!
Amen Sister Robbin , AMEN !
I think that most of us here (TER) and there (porn world) are against slut-shaming that can be imposed by society at-large or even by just a few loud vocalists.
But I think SL is saying that BO sounds like she is saying that because of slut-shaming, BO is broke. Not true. MAYBE, because of slut-shaming, BO cannot go back to school to become a nurse or a teacher or something like that (but some other porn starlets have done that, it seems) and she is stuck in porn-related work for now.
SL's link: http://www.lukeisback.com/2016/03/shawna-lenee-speaks-out-about-bree-olson/
EDIT: fixed a typo and: Sasha Grey was a volunteer in the School Reading program in the LA area. They tried to force her out of the program. Did they succeed? I don't know.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/11/sasha-grey-porn-star-elementary-school/
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The biography box for Shawna Lenee on wikipedia has a glaring error. Does anyone know how to fix wikipedia pages? Or to contact Shawna Lenee and tell her to fix it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Lene%C3%A9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Lene
The company that owns 'Real Women Real Stories' and who Bee Olson filmed her video for, does not financially compensate the women who they interview for their stories.
So, we have one of two scenarios here:
1. Bree Olson wanted to share her story, to draw awareness to 'Slut-Shaming.'
2. Bree Olson used this platform for a PR & Marketing teaser, for a tell-all book she's been writing, and about to publish.
"I’m definitely going to write a book. I planned on writing a book for several years." - Bree Olson (2011 Interview).
Thoughts, anyone?
First of all, there is no doubt the challenges a porn star (and especially former porn stars) face when they try to re-enter the work-force in other professions. I think her comments certainly drive that home, the 'judgement' out there is real and a can be a big hurdle. I have a great deal of empathy for the performers - especially because many get in at a young naive age, or in some cases, as an option to support themselves or even their kids.
as to Bree Olson, she (along with perforrmers like Jenna Jameson) who have mainstream popularity (or notoriety) are unique. Of course their fame will make going into other professions exceptionally difficult - but that is partly because of their unique huge fame (and btw she got the greater fortune that was available while in the industry).
I've known a few porn stars who have gone on to be lawyer or in the medical profession, some go on to be cosmeticians, real estate agents, etc.. One (haven't seen for over 2 years) I still got together with occasionally while she is in her 2nd profession as a medical tech. Some of them even overcome some harsh financial realities (i.e., failure to save during their years) to get there in a 2nd profession.
Especially in major cities (like LA, Vegas, NY, Miami, Chicago,...) there are a lot of managers/professionals that simply won't give a crap or be bothered that much by someones past. For Bree, of course in some smaller mid-west city she's gonna face a huge problem trying to 'fit in' and be a nurse of some office worker ....duh, she's a celebrity there !!! There's 20,000 celebrities in LA so it just doesn't matter as much for normal performers to reintegrate in SoCal or New York.
Olsen has, or had, her own special economic power - the ability to command probably 5k to 10k for an escort session even after porn - think about that - a gig once a week and make $250k to $500k - it's hard to view her financial woes with much sympathy compared to some of the things I've known much less famous porn starts have to endure. Yes, it's true and a little sad the lack of royalties, but that just illustrates that porn actresses need to manage money up-front - and yes that's easier said than done in the industry.
Bottom line is porn allows woman a form of self-empowerment sexually and financially - an option in an industry where males don't necessarily have 'equal rights' or 'equal pay'. as their female counterparts, especially when it comes to escorting on the side. It's unfortunate that many, via bad habits (such as poor choice of boyfriends or vices) will be 3-4 years into the career and find themselves with little to show - but that's true of a lot of other professions - witness the 'internships' in the media industry or film industry where people work (or take side jobs) for slave wages for a chance to 'make it big' - just doesn't have the post-industry 'stigma' that might follow them that occurs with porn.
All in all, the article is insightful, just not sure of how much Bree is the best example for what other porn actresses go through, because her situation is such an extreme case given her fame. Given her fame though, it was a good article because she can use her fame to help reinforce the message of the stigma the performers carry with them
To add what I hope is also a little more perspective, I do understand and believe there is a stigma and certainly an amount of shaming that goes on when a PS decides to leave the industry. As my Euro friends tell me, the "Pilgrims" are still alive and well in America. However, another perspective, I became acquainted with a very popular PS many years ago. IMO, she was just as well known and recognizable as a Bree or any other main stream PS. She told me she never worried about anyone recognizing her or discovering her porn identity. She related that once she took off all of her makeup and went "plain Jane" no one recognized her and she could live a perfectly normal life. I've never heard or seen any complaints about her not being able to live a normal civie life and work a 9 to 5 like the rest of us. Maybe I'm being a little too naive, but if Sara Olson could live undetected for over 30 years, why can't a PS?
I agree with that ... it is very hard to reconcile porn stars with their non-makeup looks. There are some compendiums of with and without makeup of porn stars floating around out there and the difference is often stunning. I think it is real name association that is the thing that is hard to overcome. There are legal name change things that can be done. But I think once you cross over you have to stay on the lam forever.
I recall seeing an early 90's porn star working at a Macy's about ten years ago. I guess that's what Bree Olson gets for hanging out with Chuckles during his media breakdown.
Here's the conundrum, of course. If porn/sex work wasn't socially taboo, there really wouldn't be much money in it.
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