Via Greendot.. pay now or pay later.. so my attitude is.. why not, as long as the provider has good reviews on TER.. and if she cancel and has my $$ Iwill trash her here.. so I have leverage..

THat's pretty crappy.. I would contact the reference , at least, and let them know what happened..

First of all, this sucks - plain and simple. Someone decided to "get back at you", there is no place for this type of thing (and yes, I am aware of previous traffic on this board).

I always had a policy of not putting down a deposit until a couple of months ago when a lady announced her impending arrival here. She fits one of my "bucket list items" and I decided to lock her (and a more favorable rate - I should have known better) in with a not too unreasonable deposit.

Needless to say, she emailed me a couple of hours before the scheduled time, cancelling and requesting that we try again on her next visit.

So be it; maybe it's all on the up-and-up. Maybe not (time will tell).

But to answer your question: no, I will not play with someone that requires an advance deposit.

I don't think the guys who said you ripped them off where making their stories up either.

-- Modified on 8/9/2014 7:32:32 PM

a deposit to a provider I have never seen before. I don't know how much checking you did but if your going to book that much  time I would make sure you talk to someone who will personally vouch for their character.

Clearly someone wanted to screw with you. I won't even speculate on why, etc... as to me it doesn't matter. First, from my point of view I see nothing wrong with a provider asking/expecting some type of deposit from a first time client for a multi-hour session, or at a minimum expect that the client has been verified by other providers (i.e. - P411, Date-Check, etc...) and it certainly seems to me that it would make sense to verify the person with someone else before committing so much time and effort into an appointment that might not work out.  

As a client I would never schedule such a long initial appointment regardless of how well the provider was reviewed, because just because a number of other men had great times, for who knows what reason she and I just might not hit it off. Generally I wouldn't schedule more then an hour+ appointment with a provider on a first meeting for a number of reason's. If she didn't show up I would feel like crap (the other side of the coin) and if for some reason I couldn't make it at the last minute I would feel terrible as I had caused her to book time with me that she could have used for herself or someone else. I would honestly feel that I owed her something for her time - even if I didn't see her in that case.

From your point of view, I would just chalk it up as a learning experience. Unfortunately there are some people out there who just aren't very nice and lie. It seems to me that having some type of deposit policy for new clients who want multi-hour sessions makes sense. Also, if you are going to have to drive a long distance it seems reasonable to have some type of travel fee that you will assess as well. This seems to be fairly standard for a number of providers.  

Perhaps this might reduce or eliminate some potential new clients, but I think the peace of mind and financial protection it would bring would offset any loss of revenue.

Sorry you had this happen. I spare you some of my horror stories.

So sorry to hear someone put you through an ordeal like that.  Total waste of time, money and energy on your part that could have been spent better in so many other ways.  I hope you never have to deal with another encounter like this.

As to your question, I personally would not give a deposit, especially not to someone I've never met, as I prefer to take care of the donation/gift at the time we meet face to face.  For the record my longest date was a 5-hour dinner date with a visiting provider that I had never met before.  She never asked me for a deposit and I didn't think about giving one...fortunately all worked out as planned.  

Solid references from highly regarded providers is key in this hobby world and will hopefully prevent another episode like this.

Best wishes and I truly hope your night gets better too

More then likely you did make it up. I call BS!

And who in their right mind would give a deposit to a provider who just a few weeks ago ran a scam on the hobbyist community? You would have also blacklisted this "phantom hobbyist" by now. You are getting more BSC by the day.

If he was planning on spending that kind of cash a deposit to cover your travel time is no big deal.

Square cash its discrete and easy to use.

You, Quinn and all reliable and upscale providers, are incredible and valuable assets.  

I know the analogy isn't perfect because we are talking about people and not objects, but...I wouldn't ship a car to a buyer, wouldn't UPS an eBay item, wouldn't ship my Rolex to a repair shop, wouldn't send kids to college, wouldn't commit to 7 hours of my business day, wouldn't do a zillion things that hold value or have importance WITHOUT a firm confirmation and a financial deposit absolutely committing to the action or event (or item).

I haven't yet enjoyed a 3 or 6 or 24 hour "hobby" appt, but I when I do I would definitely expect to give a deposit.  For the providers commitment and for my confirmation.  It's just very reasonable.  Sadly, by not getting one in your today's scenario you screwed yourself.  One has to go with their gut...so...what's done is done...but...live and learn

You'd still have wasted five hours, but at the very least, you'd know that this shitstain had to shell out some money for his stupid practical joke.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with this.

I have never given a deposit in advance.

Whether for am extended date or overnight. No matter what.
If a deposit is required I pass.  Same with cancellation policies.  
This is a hobby.  Sometimes life gets in the way.  
And at least I have the balls to post without and alias.  

I understand both points of view though.

Boo hoo. What a DQ.  As another already said in this thread, what goes around comes around.

Providers take great care in insuring there safety, anonymity and  health. As a hobbyist we must worry about anonymity and when someone exposes a hobbyist it a very hot spot for us..  
That being said Quinn has been linked to an unfortunate exposer of a hobbyist .  
She also clearly asked for money from someone and he felt dupped by her.. So please spare me your drama

Posted By: QuinnAdams

I am never one to jump on the boards to stir up some drama; rather, my motivation in posting this is actually to get hobbyist and provider feedback on the query outlined below. However, something unbelievably mean-spirited and frustrating happened to me today and I am curious about whether or not others have had a similar experience.  
   
 A new client reached out to me through my website mid-week to set up an appointment for this afternoon at his summer home on Cape Cod. With traffic today, the drive took me over two hours, although I waived the incremental travel charge since he booked a full day appointment. It was originally four hours but yesterday he extended it to include dinner (8 hours) and a possible overnight.  
   
 When he introduced himself to me through my website (demonstrating he took the time to read it -- usually a good sign), he provided a reasonable amount of personal information for verification, including the summer home address, phone number, and full name, as well as general employment information. When I did some research online (Google, LinkedIn, etc.), all of it checked out and was consistent with his purported identity. I assumed that if somebody is not who they say they are, they are going to be reticent to volunteer so much info -- at least until asked -- or that they will make mistakes and the individual pieces won't align so smoothly. Everything here passed the "sniff test".  
   
 We communicated during my entire drive down to the Cape, although it took him a little while to get back to me initially this morning, which did make me nervous (more than it should have actually; perhaps I was subconsciously aware something seemed off). Notably, he did not answer any of my calls today and just communicated via text and email throughout our entire dialogue. This isn't that unusual though... just something to note that now stands out.  
   
 After a long drive (~140 minutes) in Cape traffic, I arrive at his house... allegedly. No name on the mailbox, but the letter on the door decoration didn't match the first letter of his last name. Hmmm... (Yet, still easy to explain away; I haven't been deceived or burned before by a hobbyist, and I am not suspicious by nature, so I still was not terribly worried. Perhaps this is naive of me, but lesson learned.)  
   
 The other issue is that he asserts he is from Maine yet not one of the three cars in the driveway has Maine plates. Odd, but not impossible. More concerning is the fact that there are three cars in the driveway. Is it a surprise party for little Quinnie -- and not the kind I (or any provider would) like?!?!  
   
 Further, as judgmental as this sounds, his purported house is not consistent with somebody who would spring for a 24 hour session with a provider he has never met. And there were kids toys scattered and abandoned out back throughout the yard.  
   
 And stupidly, I continued to justify all these details and explain them away. "Maybe his friends have small kiddos, or he has children with youngsters..."  
   
 No answer when I knocked. When I called his phone was off. I texted, I emailed... and still, nada.  
   
 Continuing to justify all these little details for him, I told myself that maybe he was out of range, or his phone died, or he was perhaps trying to make an outgoing call simultaneously. Well, he must be making call after call for the past 5 hours because that phone still goes straight to voicemail. And he didn't block just me either; my other cell phone gets the same result.  
   
 Long story short, this guy was obviously not who he claimed to be and he contacted me for this very purpose, never intending to actually go through with an appointment. And he is still ignoring my contact, which is just irritating; at least respond to me and either say sorry or laugh at me and tell me how he is the superior being for tricking me this way. And my emails have been pretty nice so it's not like I am going to yell at him or shout... I just want him to acknowledge me. And this incident.  
   
 The sad part is that I didn't go visit a college friend who was in town so I could keep the appointment and I also turned down another appointment request from one of my favorite regulars.  
   
 Moreover, I left my home at 10am this morning, didn't get to his town until 1pm. Then I waited around until 2:30pm, hit more traffic on the way home and just got back an hour ago at 5:30pm. So I wasted 7 hours for this fool.  
   
 So, I am pretty pissed. I am at my house, alone and bored, with no friends to play with and feeling like I have some pent up steam I need to blow off... I can't believe that anybody would do this to me -- or to anybody -- and I am kicking myself for allowing this to happen (and also, in part, for writing this as I am sure he is going to relish every minute of reading it!!!).  
   
 Who has this much time on their hands to mess with providers this way? And what type of person decides this is how they wish to spend one of their two weekend days?  
   
 I always am so darn optimistic when I head off to meet a new client, and I pray this doesn't remain in the back of my mind. I am sure it won't, but in any situation or setting, it always seems the bad actions of one individual mitigate the good behavior of many. For example, we tend to focus on the one negative comment, ignoring all complements.  
   
 This jerk is not representative of most hobbyists I meet, and is certainly the opposite of all my current clients who are respectful and kind -- and far too busy with their successful careers to waste their time setting up this type of scenario.  
   
 I don't know who did this and I don't really care -- I can't do anything anyway nor would I because it does absolutely zero good and is just harmful to his career and family life; in this case, the punishment does not fit the crime -- but I do want to ensure this does not happen again, so... THE QUESTION PART OF THE POST (FINALLY!) for the few of you who are still with me here.  
   
 So my query is:  
   
 **Do any of the ladies out there require a deposit from a new client who wishes to set up an appointment longer than one hour?**  
   
 What is your policy on this and how do you collect the deposit?  
   
 Do any potential clients get upset or decide they don't want to see you after all because they don't want to make the deposit?  
   
 Also, has this -- or anything like this -- happened to any of you? What did you do in response? (I don't want to do anything retaliatory as that is not my style, but is there anything that could partially make up for this?)  
   
 And hobbyists, Would you decide not to meet with a provider because she had a deposit policy like the one I am inquiring about? Have you seen anybody with such a requirement?  
   
 Any feedback or advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I am sad and hope never to be in this position again.  
   
 Hopefully my night will get better soon...  
   
 

-- Modified on 8/9/2014 6:21:01 PM

Taking a 4 hour appointment that may turn into an overnight with a guy you have never
meet is foolish if not down right stupid.

Also goes to show being greedy is not a good idea, you were looking to make 1900 to 4500 for the day.
I have the feeling you were thinking more about the money, that you forgot to use a little common sense.

All in all this is 100% your fault. You got scammed and you should have known better

Did you check his TER handle and his reviews?

Why would an 'experienced' and Ivy League educated well reviewed, successful provider post this? Huh.  

Posted By: QuinnAdams

I am never one to jump on the boards to stir up some drama; rather, my motivation in posting this is actually to get hobbyist and provider feedback on the query outlined below. However, something unbelievably mean-spirited and frustrating happened to me today and I am curious about whether or not others have had a similar experience.  
   
 A new client reached out to me through my website mid-week to set up an appointment for this afternoon at his summer home on Cape Cod. With traffic today, the drive took me over two hours, although I waived the incremental travel charge since he booked a full day appointment. It was originally four hours but yesterday he extended it to include dinner (8 hours) and a possible overnight.  
   
 When he introduced himself to me through my website (demonstrating he took the time to read it -- usually a good sign), he provided a reasonable amount of personal information for verification, including the summer home address, phone number, and full name, as well as general employment information. When I did some research online (Google, LinkedIn, etc.), all of it checked out and was consistent with his purported identity. I assumed that if somebody is not who they say they are, they are going to be reticent to volunteer so much info -- at least until asked -- or that they will make mistakes and the individual pieces won't align so smoothly. Everything here passed the "sniff test".  
   
 We communicated during my entire drive down to the Cape, although it took him a little while to get back to me initially this morning, which did make me nervous (more than it should have actually; perhaps I was subconsciously aware something seemed off). Notably, he did not answer any of my calls today and just communicated via text and email throughout our entire dialogue. This isn't that unusual though... just something to note that now stands out.  
   
 After a long drive (~140 minutes) in Cape traffic, I arrive at his house... allegedly. No name on the mailbox, but the letter on the door decoration didn't match the first letter of his last name. Hmmm... (Yet, still easy to explain away; I haven't been deceived or burned before by a hobbyist, and I am not suspicious by nature, so I still was not terribly worried. Perhaps this is naive of me, but lesson learned.)  
   
 The other issue is that he asserts he is from Maine yet not one of the three cars in the driveway has Maine plates. Odd, but not impossible. More concerning is the fact that there are three cars in the driveway. Is it a surprise party for little Quinnie -- and not the kind I (or any provider would) like?!?!  
   
 Further, as judgmental as this sounds, his purported house is not consistent with somebody who would spring for a 24 hour session with a provider he has never met. And there were kids toys scattered and abandoned out back throughout the yard.  
   
 And stupidly, I continued to justify all these details and explain them away. "Maybe his friends have small kiddos, or he has children with youngsters..."  
   
 No answer when I knocked. When I called his phone was off. I texted, I emailed... and still, nada.  
   
 Continuing to justify all these little details for him, I told myself that maybe he was out of range, or his phone died, or he was perhaps trying to make an outgoing call simultaneously. Well, he must be making call after call for the past 5 hours because that phone still goes straight to voicemail. And he didn't block just me either; my other cell phone gets the same result.  
   
 Long story short, this guy was obviously not who he claimed to be and he contacted me for this very purpose, never intending to actually go through with an appointment. And he is still ignoring my contact, which is just irritating; at least respond to me and either say sorry or laugh at me and tell me how he is the superior being for tricking me this way. And my emails have been pretty nice so it's not like I am going to yell at him or shout... I just want him to acknowledge me. And this incident.  
   
 The sad part is that I didn't go visit a college friend who was in town so I could keep the appointment and I also turned down another appointment request from one of my favorite regulars.  
   
 Moreover, I left my home at 10am this morning, didn't get to his town until 1pm. Then I waited around until 2:30pm, hit more traffic on the way home and just got back an hour ago at 5:30pm. So I wasted 7 hours for this fool.  
   
 So, I am pretty pissed. I am at my house, alone and bored, with no friends to play with and feeling like I have some pent up steam I need to blow off... I can't believe that anybody would do this to me -- or to anybody -- and I am kicking myself for allowing this to happen (and also, in part, for writing this as I am sure he is going to relish every minute of reading it!!!).  
   
 Who has this much time on their hands to mess with providers this way? And what type of person decides this is how they wish to spend one of their two weekend days?  
   
 I always am so darn optimistic when I head off to meet a new client, and I pray this doesn't remain in the back of my mind. I am sure it won't, but in any situation or setting, it always seems the bad actions of one individual mitigate the good behavior of many. For example, we tend to focus on the one negative comment, ignoring all complements.  
   
 This jerk is not representative of most hobbyists I meet, and is certainly the opposite of all my current clients who are respectful and kind -- and far too busy with their successful careers to waste their time setting up this type of scenario.  
   
 I don't know who did this and I don't really care -- I can't do anything anyway nor would I because it does absolutely zero good and is just harmful to his career and family life; in this case, the punishment does not fit the crime -- but I do want to ensure this does not happen again, so... THE QUESTION PART OF THE POST (FINALLY!) for the few of you who are still with me here.  
   
 So my query is:  
   
 **Do any of the ladies out there require a deposit from a new client who wishes to set up an appointment longer than one hour?**  
   
 What is your policy on this and how do you collect the deposit?  
   
 Do any potential clients get upset or decide they don't want to see you after all because they don't want to make the deposit?  
   
 Also, has this -- or anything like this -- happened to any of you? What did you do in response? (I don't want to do anything retaliatory as that is not my style, but is there anything that could partially make up for this?)  
   
 And hobbyists, Would you decide not to meet with a provider because she had a deposit policy like the one I am inquiring about? Have you seen anybody with such a requirement?  
   
 Any feedback or advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I am sad and hope never to be in this position again.  
   
 Hopefully my night will get better soon...  
   
 

-- Modified on 8/9/2014 6:21:01 PM

THE OTHER SIDE OF YESTERDAY

No Quinn did not make this up BUT her facts are OFF! I contacted her over a week ago. Asked if she would travel to the Cape. She took two days to reply but said yes. I typically use a well known outcall only agency but her website caught my eye. Reviews were great and I decided to go outside the box. I supplied my real first and last name, my primary home info and my address on the Cape ( outcall location). I ALSO GAVE A REFERENCE! REFERENCE WAS AN AGENCY THAT I HAVE USED FOR 9+ YEARS. Not ONE PROBLEM in 9+ years. She told me she "knew her well", my reference. I would have supplied additional references if requested. This was all done prior to setting up the time/date. She said all ok and she PICKED THE TIME. 1pm for FOUR HOURS-----NEVER SAID EIGHT HOURS. At 12:30 pm on Sat she calls my phone and texts me. Yes I was slow to respond because I was in the shower THOUGHT I HAD A 1PM LADY, SHOWERING. I saw her texts/ 1 call after shower and texted her back because SHE SAID AT 12:30 THAT HER CAR BROKE DOWN YESTERDAY MORNING AND WAS GOING TO BE A LATE BUT IN ROUTE WITH A FRIEND DRIVING! Text not call because she said she was in a car with another person! She never called my phone other than once at 12:30 all text. I replied back to her text said ok, she then texts at 12:45pm said she WAS 2 MILES FROM THE BRIDGE. The bridge is 15min from my door.After an hour went by I started to think something was off. Tried to text, no reply, call, straight to vm. I sat there like an idiot waiting thinking her cell may not have a signal and traffic? Waited ANOTHER HOUR----TWO HOURS TOTAL! Still no text , call or anyone at my house! At that point I left my house angry that I waited like a chump for two hours. I left my house AT 3PM. NO SHE WAS NEVER AT MY HOUSE AT 1PM BECAUSE I WAS SITTING LI8KE A LOSER WAITING FOR HER.  
Come on here and read this as she wrote and I am bewildered. What is the reason for the altered truth? I HAVE TEXTS WHICH I READ AGAIN AFTER READING HER POST HERE.  Why would I give my address if I was going to blow her off? Yeah thats logical????? My reference was solid, years always 3-4 hours because I cant hobby often. I had ONE DAY, SHOULD HAVE CALLED AGENCY!
I never said I didnt read TER Quinn, I dont review. I can see by your post you were assuming it was ok to post altered truths without me replying. I was looking forward to yesterday and gave you all the info anyone has ever needed to screen me, gave a live real living reference you said you knew her well, I was ready at 1pm for our 4hrs ( i never once said ANYTHING ABOUT 8HRS), you had car trouble, I waited and waited and waited. You told me 2 miles from the bridge ( a guy on crutches could WALK to my house from the bridge in less than a half hour), how long should I have waited for you? 3, 4, 5, 6  hours? I waited two and you say you showed at 1pm? LMFAO you were NOT AT MY HOUSE AND TEXTS PROVE IT.  

I am not some guy in a basement as you said, NO there is no grandious scheme to have you drive to my house, is this an attempt to gain relevance through pity? Must be because YOU NEVER SHOWED. You got the last laugh, I did waste my day but dont come on here and lie!  Biggest sad story I ever read and if you really did show up at my house yesterday it had to have been AFTER 3pm. I left at 3pm. Yesterday was a bust but today reading your STORY makes me wonder what the hell are you trying to do? How is your car by the way? Get real!

Look him up!

That's so immature - I'm sorry he wasted your time! Look up his number on spokeo!

Frankly, this is getting completely out of hand.

We have one provider who may (or may not) have contributed to a hobbyist being outed a while back.

We have one guy using multiple aliases (or several idiots who banded together) that is (are) carrying out a personal vendetta against her.

If Quinn invented part or all of this episode, the best thing was to ignore her.

If she did not, many folks including other providers explained her folly to her.

We can each make our own adult decision on seeing her (or not).  

Her profession is hard enough to make a go at it without all the venom that is appearing on this board

Through an apparently doctored tale of waaaaa, attempt to build support from and provide justification to the Boston hobbyist community for her asking for DEPOSITS, in my humble speculation. Very strategic.  

"Of course I have to ask for a deposit! I don't want to, but didn't you read on TER how that mean guy burned me?"

"I am never one to jump on the boards to stir up some drama;"

Um... really? I had to laugh a little reading this again. That quote cracked me up. But I have to give you credit. These threads are more entertaining than Orange is the New Black episodes.

Seriously though I think it might be time for you to walk away from this profession. You've lost the ability to keep a low profile so it might not be worth it for you anymore. I say that with compassion and not in a judgmental or critical way. I realize that there is a human being on the other end of this. This occupation comes with a lot of risk and a lot of drama.

I would have a different opinion of you if you were thankful to those that helped you in your time of need, and if those individuals were now praising you for how pleasantly you treated them after recovering from your crisis.  But such a scenario has not panned out, has it???