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Sometimes the prognosis really is the doctor not knowing how to fix it.
Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 365 reads
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I've worked in cancer clinics. There are many stories, even with small children, who went to get second opinions after given a three, six, year to live, and became cancer free.

However, when told what you were told, how can one not worry?

There are many places to find hope and refreshment outside of P4P, and also real TLC. There may be some ladies who specialize in giving TLC and healing to those in need... I've met them. But why not choose to be around people who've been there, are there, and are finding hope in similar situations?

When I was a church goer, I remember cancer was a big ailment I've seen, as well as heart problems, surgery, etc. One thing I noticed, since that was my initial exposure to knowing people step by step through the process, was that they still had peace and joy through the process. A lady I still know today had heart surgery, and wasn't even scared. A few passed away, but I watched them continue to be strong with a twinkle in their eye. I saw people gather around and cook them meals, keep them company, encourage them, clean their house, etc etc. They were known to be very strong, and it really affected and prepared me for some things I have encountered since, including an injury that kept me in bed for over a year. My grand parents were actually worried about me because I still had a zest for life, and a passion for purpose. I still laughed, I still cracked jokes, I still pissed people off, and it still sang my songs.

Did it suck? Yes. Was it devastating? Yes. Was it lonely? Yes. But I'm glad I had great people who had surrounded me in the past to show me how to live, though it seemed life had stopped.

The church reference always gets an eye roll, but that was the majority of my adult life, and where I learned a lot about how to live it. Through work and other means, I watched people have a glow in their face through their struggle, but you could still tell they didn't feel well.

The example of others in the past and present is always a gem I will keep with me - and to this day, I try to surround myself with people who know how to cling to hope. I also try to be an example of hope to those who struggle  by being an example in my own struggles. I fail miserably sometimes though lol.

All that to say, maybe there are some organizations where people of similar struggles go out and do stuff together and encourage one another. Every now and then knowing you're not alone really helps. Perhaps you can be that person for others, and fight the battle and win. No one knows your destiny for sure, so go get that second opinion. It's worth it.

Let me give background first.

I am a 38 yr old white guy. I just recently found out i have cancer as well as a heart problem. They cant fix one because of the other. So i have 7 to 9 months they say.

I was wondering if any provider would help a guy out. Not looking for a freebie, just looking for a little discount.

i am sure there will be at least 1 person who thinks this is a BS ad, i cant change that. I am 100% legit though.

JoeAverageHobbyist607 reads

Is the fact that your doctors aren't giving you any hope and aren't looking for a solution to your health problems.  I suggest you seek out second, third or more opinions (if you already haven't), until you find a doctor that is willing to treat both the cancer and the heart and prolong (possibly save) your life.  You're way too young to just give up.  Put up a fight and vow to beat your cancer and heart problems and strive to live another 40 years.  Imagine all the P4P you'll be able to do then.  Good luck to you!

-- Modified on 10/8/2014 2:44:06 PM

Many celebrities go to cleveland clinic for cancer and for heart. It is one of the top hospitals in the country for both. Case Western Reserve University is affiliated with them.  

I suggest you contact them. I am from cleveland and my dad has had numerous problems with his heart. The average male in my family has never made it past 68 and my dad is 80!!! So I so believe in cleveland clinic.

would be to reach out to the ladies you have seen in the past and see if any of them is willing to cut you a break.  Asking a new lady who has never met you to cut you a break is pretty nuts especially when there would be very little way to validate your claim beforehand and during well that would certainly kill the mood now would it not.  You will also have a comfort zone with ladies you have seen before especially if it was a great experience.  

Or how about this, maybe seek out a lady within your price range.  I know guys hate hearing that but it is what it is.  You would not expect your boss to drop your hourly if he was dying.

If this is true, I am so sorry this has happened to you.  It sucks.  If it were me I would pull all my retirement funds that I would not be using and go out with a bang!  Travel and get as much satisfying sex as I could

That is AFTER I got more opinions as listed above.  Make sure it is for real and fight for it 1st.  Giving up is the pus*y way out, so man up and make sure you have gotten the proper info and quickly

-- Modified on 10/8/2014 1:59:14 PM

I've worked in cancer clinics. There are many stories, even with small children, who went to get second opinions after given a three, six, year to live, and became cancer free.

However, when told what you were told, how can one not worry?

There are many places to find hope and refreshment outside of P4P, and also real TLC. There may be some ladies who specialize in giving TLC and healing to those in need... I've met them. But why not choose to be around people who've been there, are there, and are finding hope in similar situations?

When I was a church goer, I remember cancer was a big ailment I've seen, as well as heart problems, surgery, etc. One thing I noticed, since that was my initial exposure to knowing people step by step through the process, was that they still had peace and joy through the process. A lady I still know today had heart surgery, and wasn't even scared. A few passed away, but I watched them continue to be strong with a twinkle in their eye. I saw people gather around and cook them meals, keep them company, encourage them, clean their house, etc etc. They were known to be very strong, and it really affected and prepared me for some things I have encountered since, including an injury that kept me in bed for over a year. My grand parents were actually worried about me because I still had a zest for life, and a passion for purpose. I still laughed, I still cracked jokes, I still pissed people off, and it still sang my songs.

Did it suck? Yes. Was it devastating? Yes. Was it lonely? Yes. But I'm glad I had great people who had surrounded me in the past to show me how to live, though it seemed life had stopped.

The church reference always gets an eye roll, but that was the majority of my adult life, and where I learned a lot about how to live it. Through work and other means, I watched people have a glow in their face through their struggle, but you could still tell they didn't feel well.

The example of others in the past and present is always a gem I will keep with me - and to this day, I try to surround myself with people who know how to cling to hope. I also try to be an example of hope to those who struggle  by being an example in my own struggles. I fail miserably sometimes though lol.

All that to say, maybe there are some organizations where people of similar struggles go out and do stuff together and encourage one another. Every now and then knowing you're not alone really helps. Perhaps you can be that person for others, and fight the battle and win. No one knows your destiny for sure, so go get that second opinion. It's worth it.

Thank you everyone for your ideas and suggestions. Much appreciated.

My thoughts are with you Coldstone since, I have heart issues myself.  Hope something can be done for you and try and stay positive easier said than done I know.

If docs are right it will be somebody else's problem. If docs are wrong you can be thankful every month that you pay the bill because you're still alive to do it.  

I would focus less on discount and more on making good connection.  I've had a few difficulties in my life and shared them with a couple of providers I have seen several times. Having that connection made for better intimacy between us. Share your story and tell them that "this could be your last shot, so let's make a good one" and you'll get farther than asking for $50 off.

Initially something made me assume that he was alone, but I could be wrong. In that case you are absolutely right that he should not burden family with debt. If he happens to have a big life insurance policy then maybe he can cash in on a little bit of it in advance for a parting fling.  

The point I was more focused on was not trying to use the problem for a discount but as a means to connect.

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