Hi Kevin, Appreciated your effort to help your fellow hobbier.
Nice change to folks that insult their peers. Tom
Posted By: KevinRoby
Surprised anyone remembers. But no, I don't keep the list up anymore. It was fun for a while. Personal high point: Amber Rayne for $500 at AVN. Those were the days....
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I do still keep a list. In some ways the girls are more accessible than ever via their Twitter and Tumbler and Snapchat and Instagram accounts... A lot of girls now cam on Chaturbate and other sites (I just noticed a pregnant Hayden Hawkens on MFC a few days ago) and they even have their Skype links on their P411 account pages. If anyone ever wants to shoot me a juicy legitimate contact to a girl (as distinct from the twitter page set up and run by her agency) that I care about I am open to sharing I suppose. . My opinion remains that nearly every girl is available for an hour for $500 if you can make the correct direct contact, but that is often so time consuming...
Wow-Amber Rayne! Now there's a girl that I am SO sorry that I missed....
Oh Amber is still available via an agency and worth every dollar. Best dirty talker there ever was.
If The 300 Club were still being posted I would probably include a picture of Medusa (her actual porn name escapes me at the moment), mentioned in the thread below, every week . . . There are so many hot girls out there these days. What a time to be alive!
That's great to hear that Amber is still available! I'm actually quite surprised though because I follow her on Twitter and she's made it quite clear that she's out of the porn business now and her posts aren't sexual in nature at all- they're mostly about hockey! Lol!
See you mail....
Posted By: KevinRoby
Surprised anyone remembers. But no, I don't keep the list up anymore. It was fun for a while. Personal high point: Amber Rayne for $500 at AVN. Those were the days....
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LOL. I gotta laugh, not at the OP, but at the fact that anyone would think such a list at THAT price point was VIABLE anymore! Lord knows, KevinRoby CONSTANTLY put in what seemed like a TON of work into it and thereby provided a public SERVICE to those TER members who don't have money to "burn" and were looking for true value. But, like Kevin said "those were the days..."
If such a list were to come back TODAY, you'd have to start at the 1K level, at the very LEAST. That's seems to be where the bar BEGINS, with the AVERAGE rate going for between 1.2K and 1.4K. Too rich for my blood, but there must be a GLUT of hedge fund managers/Arab sheiks/professional athletes who could drop that kind of "lettuce" and not bat an eye because there's obviously a MARKET for it. Go figure.
....actually I see quite a few porn girls and starlets at precisely that price point. Even through some Agencies. You need look no further than the thread right next to this one to see 3 porn girls available in Vegas at 400, one allows filming another offers greek, all at no uptick, so I am not sure why you think there is no one available at that price. There is a wealth of talent out there for all price points.... IMO
Posted By: KevinRoby
....actually I see quite a few porn girls and starlets at precisely that price point. Even through some Agencies. You need look no further than the thread right next to this one to see 3 porn girls available in Vegas at 400, one allows filming another offers greek, all at no uptick, so I am not sure why you think there is no one available at that price. There is a wealth of talent out there for all price points.... IMO
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree, Kevin. This is the biggest problem I have with the "game" as it relates to porn STARS: someone merely does a "walk-on" on a porn set, and they automatically classify themselves as a porn STAR. I'm not accusing you of that, Kevin. In fact, you refer to them as "girls" or even "starlets." I'm just saying being an extra on set does NOT qualify you as a star, and it definitely doesn't qualify you to charge porn star PRICES.
When I think of porn STAR providers, I think of Holly Halston, Bridgette B, Kiara Mia, etc. These ladies are now charging $1.2K/hr per visit, on average. That was the metric I was using in my OP. Now, while it is true can you CAN find someone who's been on a porn set providing at a $300 price point, they just don't qualify as porn STARS for me. Just REGULAR, run of the mill providers, and hence, their rates don't seem like much of a bargain.
...that's what makes horse races. Differences of opinions. By way of example, none of the three girls you mentioned do anything for me. I couldn't even put a face to them without Google. But that is the spice of life, we all have different things that trick our trigger.
Posted By: KevinRoby
...that's what makes horse races. Differences of opinions. By way of example, none of the three girls you mentioned do anything for me. I couldn't even put a face to them without Google. But that is the spice of life, we all have different things that trick our trigger.
Wait, are you serious that the likes of Holly Halston, Bridgette B, and Kiara Mia don't "do anything" for you?! Are you DEAD below the hips, man?! Why, just mentioning them brings "lolo jr." to IMMEDIATE (and firm) attention!
Seriously though, you're right, bro..."different strokes..." and all that jazz. By way of MY example, fellow members go NUTS for so called "spinner" types. As you can see by my SHORT list of ATF PSs, "spinners" do as much for me as these ladies do for you. I guess I'll keep playing Powerball and keeping my fingers crossed, 'cuz NONE of my ATF PSs is joining the "300 club" anytime soon (if ever!).
...young spinners are my kryptonite!
Sheena Ryder*, Dahlia DeNyle*, Kissy Kapri*, Avery Brooks*, Kendra Dickenson*, Scarlett Sawyer*, Valeria Herrera*, Sasha Knox*, Mia Domore*, Jamie Elle, Kaci Starr, Tatiana Kush, Haley Scott, Kylee Reese, Veronica Jett, Taylor Lynn, and Tyla Wynn.
Kick it up to 400: Trinity St. Clair*, Kiera King*, Riley Shy, Tricia Oaks and Ciera Sage
Splurge and go to 500: Katie St. Ives, RayVeness, Taryn Thomas.
If there's an asterisk, they're still out there (or were fairly recently) at or near that rate. Indeed, sometimes lower, some will run "specials" when things are slow. Obviously, providers like Brianna Banks, India Summer, Jada Stevens and Tiffany Mynx aren't going to be on this list but I had a good time with all of the ladies listed above. Indeed, my experiences with Ray, Katie, Trinity, Kiera, Tatianna, Jamie, Riley, Veronica, Kylee and Sasha were amazing, putting them squarely in my very sophomoric "Top 20" list. (That's out of about 50 pornstars total).
Here's the deal: it's a big world out there and with a little energy, you be surprised what you can find. Oh, don't bother asking me or sending me any pm's about this. A couple of years ago, I sent PRIVATE messages to people here about some these things, who then reported me to TER, who then suspended my account. No good deed goes umpunished, eh?
Again, not to be argumentative, but lots of girls are out there. Are you going to get a current fantasy perfect "it" girl like, for instance, a Dillon Harper, well of course not. But there are a lot of girls for whom $500 an hour is lot of money..... Have any of us ever been paid $500 an hour ... for anything? I am not sure why it is not talked about on this board, I guess, in part, because there are some under various handles who want to slut shame guys who hobby on a budget. But if you ask most guys who see porn girls, the vast majority of who they have seen are at a reasonable price point. And most who I see at that reasonable price point are with agencies, they just tend to be local agencies: Montreal, Dallas, Miami, NYC, KC, etc. Again, I have nothing against the big porn agencies, I just can't afford a steady diet of $1200 or $1500 when that same amount will get as many as 4 or 5 girls, or even an overnight.... But if you want a fantasy girl like a Dillon Harper you are a damned fool not to pay an agency and be with her in her prime with no muss and no fuss, because someone like her will never come around again and will only be this young once.... As for defining "porn star," well that is a red herring exercise in futility to me. Is someone who was big but now can't get work a pornstar? Yes, to me. Even though Marilyn Chambers ended her days broke in a mobile home, she was still a pornstar to me. Is some young thing who has only done three scenes a pornstar? Yes, to me. Call her a pornstarlet if you like. I don't care. But who wouldn't have wanted to catch an Aurora Snow or Taylor Rain or Jenna Haze during her first week of shooting right after she left Ed Powers' studio? Are the new crop of Cam Girls pornstars? Harder to say. But consider this, would you have wanted to be with Stoya when she was doing fetish internet work before her first porn scene? The question answers itself...... Its all good.
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Great post Kevin! BTW I was lucky enough to catch Aurora Snow- not at the BEGINNING of her career, more towards the end- but at a VERY affordable price, far below $1200. And she was great and one of the most intelligent people I have ever met...
...I always wanted to see Aurora Show and Amber Rayne for an hour together. It never happened, but it was something I wanted sooooo bad. I remember back when guys on here used to say, well Aurora does not escort and I would PM them and say, yeah, she is publicly listed on and English agencies site and tours over there to do just that and no one would listen.... Well, some would....
Meh. She's pretty plain. 1600? I'll pass. To each his own though.
That video has very poor quality. Having said that...
It's strange - there are a number of porn stars who look much better on screen than in person - the lighting and make-up can do wonders - and there are a number of porn stars who look much better in person than they do on screen. Dillon is one of the latter. She's much better looking in person, and she's a young hot spinner type. I was eyeing her a lot at last year's Exxxotica in Edison, NJ and I plan to do more ogling of her this year.
I agree that $1600 is probably a bit much but, depending on the agency, you have to figure that the agency is getting about 25%-50% of that so if you can go direct, it's probably a better deal. No, I don't know if she books direct. You can also shop around to different agencies and maybe save a few hundred bucks
At least one of the ladies lolodancer mentions was regularly available for $300. And none of them do it for me either fyi
Posted By: rubiroso
At least one of the ladies lolodancer mentions was regularly available for $300. And none of them do it for me either fyi
SHUT yo' face, rubiroso!
No, seriously, out of the THREE that I mentioned, I'd be SURPRISED if ANY of them EVER belonged to the "300" club. It's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely, and IF so, it was probably when they were JUST starting out, and BEFORE their TRANSFORMATIONS into the porn STARS we know and love today.
