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The business travelers think that parking on the street downtown is free. that we automatically know the address of the hotel they are staying at because they tell us the name. Like embassy suites... one is on state street and one is on columbus drive. There are two w hotels... lake shore drive and city center on adams. (i'll be nice and and not mention some of the comments about backpage comments that gentlemen assume to be true which are not true)A couple of experienced providers I like have shown a lack of knowledge about some little things that I find odd, and I wondered if others have additional examples.
As I said, these are girls I like, so my intent is NOT to point a finger or call anybody clueless -- these girls are certainly not that. I'm just saying with all due respect -- really! -- that I found these a little odd. Can other hobbyists add examples? Or can providers give examples about us? don't say anything that belongs in the juicy details section of a review, and again, BE NICE...
1. One very experienced girl didn't know what "cowgirl" is
2. One girl who was experienced enough didn't know there's more than one size of condo
To be an escort or in this line of work and not know what 'cowgirl' is or that condoms come in several sizes seems like they may be "out of the loop" to say the least. Maybe they are just "pulling your leg" ????
Maybe they are sex slaves or being pimped out? Too young to be in the biz? Which would be AWFUL and horribly sad!
IDK, just saying. Might be unsafe to be with if they don't know what that stuff is or seem clueless as you said. Maybe best to look for some more experienced providers.
Not being mean here, I guess I can understand why you would think the way you do. My reactive thoughts are more about my own safety being with anyone who is so clueless.
Happy Thursday ALL
Well they seemed genuine in the moment and I'm usually sensitive to that kind of thing if it's cynical. These girls were definitely not clueless (or children), so maybe they were playing with me and it went over my head. The transactional relationships in the hobby are certainly not always honest.
that we have to pay for advertising
The business travelers think that parking on the street downtown is free.
that we automatically know the address of the hotel they are staying at because they tell us the name. Like embassy suites... one is on state street and one is on columbus drive. There are two w hotels... lake shore drive and city center on adams.
(i'll be nice and and not mention some of the comments about backpage comments that gentlemen assume to be true which are not true)
...like ChiTown we have several Marriotts, Hyatts, and three Ritz Carltons! When I try to confirm which property they are staying, that question me like I am a mind reader.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
...we are clueless, and uneducated. One of my worst dates ever was an overnight, with a gentleman (using that term loosely) that thought he had to explain every word he said to me, or was told to me.
This particular gentleman is a professor (no, not my ATF in DC), and over dinner when speaking of his profession told me that he had tenure. He then asked me if I knew what that meant. lol Then, when ordering, I told him that I would enjoy the branzino; he then told me, "I hope you know that branzino is sea bass". The conversation flowed for bit and then he began speaking of his daughter who was pursuing her JD degree; he quckly added that it meant Juris Doctor.
I had enough at this point. I told him that I have no clue as to the ladies that he has visted with in the past, but not only am I street smart, traveled throughout some amazing countries, but I completed a year and half towards a JD degree, and then moved on to Mechanical Engineering, where I obtained a masters degree.
Still shaking my head.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
Aw, man, this was such a good thread but now you've got me all hot and bothered thinking about that much brains and beauty. You can talk dirty engineering to me anytime you make it to Chicago or LA. 
This particular gentleman is a professor (no, not my ATF in DC), and over dinner when speaking of his profession told me that he had tenure. He then asked me if I knew what that meant. lol Then, when ordering, I told him that I would enjoy the branzino; he then told me, "I hope you know that branzino is sea bass". The conversation flowed for bit and then he began speaking of his daughter who was pursuing her JD degree; he quckly added that it meant Juris Doctor.
I had enough at this point. I told him that I have no clue as to the ladies that he has visted with in the past, but not only am I street smart, traveled throughout some amazing countries, but I completed a year and half towards a JD degree, and then moved on to Mechanical Engineering, where I obtained a masters degree.
Still shaking my head.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
I hope you charged that guy a lot and got cash upfront. Cash being the currency we use for financial transactions he he
Whenever I think of the gentle curves of a woman's hip, I start thinking about laminar flow, in showers and hot tubs. Laminar flow. And I'm an EE.
It amazes me the "soft bigotry of low expectations" some of you gorgeous ladies experience, especially from the gentlemen I'd think could afford you! So disappointing, I imagine.
Most of you are as bright as you are beautiful. I just wish ALL your clients respected you as such. Kudos to you Kelly and Alyson!
This particular gentleman is a professor (no, not my ATF in DC), and over dinner when speaking of his profession told me that he had tenure. He then asked me if I knew what that meant. lol Then, when ordering, I told him that I would enjoy the branzino; he then told me, "I hope you know that branzino is sea bass". The conversation flowed for bit and then he began speaking of his daughter who was pursuing her JD degree; he quckly added that it meant Juris Doctor.
I had enough at this point. I told him that I have no clue as to the ladies that he has visted with in the past, but not only am I street smart, traveled throughout some amazing countries, but I completed a year and half towards a JD degree, and then moved on to Mechanical Engineering, where I obtained a masters degree.
Still shaking my head.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
How did he react when you said that? Since you count it as your worst date ever I'm guessing nothing good happened after you told him off but did he at least stop patronizing you?
Some guys like sex, some like a trophy date to show off to their friends, and others feel the need to validate their intelligence by explaining everything to a pretty girl. Of course, it doesn't matter if the pretty girl is more intelligent or knowledgable than the guy because a "mansplainer" is unable to comprehend that a lovely lady could be smart.
Maybe TER should add "allows mansplaining" to the services offered menu. If they did, I'd encourage Kelly to continue to see such clients, so she can post more stories about them on the message boards.
I just say in my head "Everyone (who pays me Lol) deserves to have a pretty girl think they're fancy."
Most providers I've met I've found to be intelligent and knowledgeable on many topics. Some more than others but I don't think I've ever acted patronizing toward a woman in this biz. Having said this, I would wonder why someone with a Master's Degree in Mechanical Engineering would be providing. It's a legit question - this is certainly not a business women aspire to - and that statement has come from a few providers on this very board.
Maybe you do it for fun or socialization. I can certainly tell within a few minutes if I'm dealing with an intelligent woman and when I realize just how smart a few are I wonder why you ended up in this biz. Experience has shown that very few providers do this as a sideline or for the fun of it - most have families to support and/or other financial needs that a regular job can't meet.
So was the date over after your rant, lol? You made me think about what I would do if I was the one you ranted on - not sure if I'd stick around for the rest of the date, I'd be embarrassed to high heaven.
In all honesty, I have always been the mistress; not the girl friend, and it was a natural seway into this profession. I do enjoy another profession, as well as this one, but it is in a field so far removed from engineering, and is cyclical.
I truly do enjoy both of my professions. I literally have traveled the world, visited all fifty states, and have developed some true friendships along the way. It is a great ride!
With that being said, I did not "rant or yell". I quietly told my date that he obviously did not read my website, that I am not a dumb bunny, and found him to be very condescending. I did go through with the overnight (I was visiting him in another state), but it was not as much fun as it should have been; and yes, I did receive my full gift for the date. We both felt terrible that the date ended the way it did.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
PS: Does anyone really know, at 17, what they want to do when they grow up?
I truly do enjoy both of my professions. I literally have traveled the world, visited all fifty states, and have developed some true friendships along the way. It is a great ride!
With that being said, I did not "rant or yell". I quietly told my date that he obviously did not read my website, that I am not a dumb bunny, and found him to be very condescending. I did go through with the overnight (I was visiting him in another state), but it was not as much fun as it should have been; and yes, I did receive my full gift for the date. We both felt terrible that the date ended the way it did.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
PS: Does anyone really know, at 17, what they want to do when they grow up?
the level your date went to was beyond condescending. I'll talk about stuff sometimes and some ask questions and with others it goes in one ear and out the other. I get why that date was less than pleasant - if I'd stuck my foot in my mouth that badly, I would have crawled in a hole and died, lol.
To answer your PS - YES. I knew what I wanted to do when I was 13, been doing it all my life, and it's still fun. I'm unusual, what can I say
I have a couple of professions/degrees I could be using, but I'm just feeling girly/nurturing/fun-loving at this point in my life. Being tied to a desk and having to act serious and frankly masculine all the time was exhausting and aging. On the other hand, I've been engaged multiple times but ultimately they were freedom-crushing relationships. This work lets me be a happy, fun housewife on my own terms. I love it.
How exciting I'm not talking about your serious job, I'm talking about the fun job and being tied to a desk. Must be some sort of prison fantasy, lol
Of course you did of course you did lol. Where's CPA when needed?
This particular gentleman is a professor (no, not my ATF in DC), and over dinner when speaking of his profession told me that he had tenure. He then asked me if I knew what that meant. lol Then, when ordering, I told him that I would enjoy the branzino; he then told me, "I hope you know that branzino is sea bass". The conversation flowed for bit and then he began speaking of his daughter who was pursuing her JD degree; he quckly added that it meant Juris Doctor.
I had enough at this point. I told him that I have no clue as to the ladies that he has visted with in the past, but not only am I street smart, traveled throughout some amazing countries, but I completed a year and half towards a JD degree, and then moved on to Mechanical Engineering, where I obtained a masters degree.
Still shaking my head.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
What a HUGE turn off. Why is that hard? Nothing like seeing a white nasty tongue to ruin the mood. Or other hygiene related issues. Yuck
and wiping with toilet paper. It leaves paper residue and a smell that makes DATY impossible.
YES for both provider and client. Nothing worse than trying to have the provider enjoy the session and ruining the mood with sour taste.
Weather you are a Provider or a girl just picking up a guy at a bar....You should know these things... At least that is what I thought... My bad. Sorry.
Love
Zana
As I said, these are girls I like, so my intent is NOT to point a finger or call anybody clueless -- these girls are certainly not that. I'm just saying with all due respect -- really! -- that I found these a little odd. Can other hobbyists add examples? Or can providers give examples about us? don't say anything that belongs in the juicy details section of a review, and again, BE NICE...
1. One very experienced girl didn't know what "cowgirl" is
2. One girl who was experienced enough didn't know there's more than one size of condom
I am hoping some of you remember the TV Show, "Get Smart". If not I am setting myself up once again........
My story is more an age thing than a tale of intelligence, or lack there of.
On one occasion I was having pillow talk with a provider. I was sharing a private thought her and rather than use the term, "Keep this between you and me" I opted for, what I thought was a more humorous, term " This falls under The Cone of Silence". The provider looked at me as if I had three heads.
I tried to explain it to her, but failed. I guess "I missed it by THAT much"