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Re: Having erections at Workconfused_smile
beenthere255 11 Reviews 1547 reads
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I wondered about your answer too, LG.  It seems to me that there's already some pretty explicit flirting going on.  If co-workers are going to have a problem, then they're going to have a problem whether these two are screwing each other outside of work or not.  As kchots implied, I think relationships with coworkers aren't a problem; it's inappropriate behavior at work.  

My advice to the original poster is that if he wants to date her, he should get over the hang ups about why she apparently likes him and just ask her.  Maybe she only wants sex too.  Or maybe they'll discover that they mesh in other ways he'd never know about otherwise.

Worst case scenario is that they end up not clicking, in which case the flirting and his boners go away.  Original problem solved.

Posted By: TheLoveGoddess
Hmmm....kchots,

I have been both an expert witness at sexual harassment trials and dealt with the "hostile environment" issue, and yes, these have all been major corporations where there have been "well-structured" company policies in place. Flirting was actually one of the issue in one of the cases because OTHER workers found it unwelcome and deemed it "sexual harassment," despite the fact that they were not parties to the flirting themselves.

I don't see that what I posted is very different from what you are describing. Of course it's "not OK to put excessive controls over what people do outside of the office." Then again, it's good to warn "mildly troubled' [your expression, not mine] about what can happen. You are seeing it from a manager's standpoint - I'm seeing it from his. As long as everything is fine and people don't bring issues from their outside sexual relationship in the office, then no one has anything to worry about. But all it takes is that one person gets dumped or treated in some way unfavorably in a relationship and then brings discussions thereof into the office, and pretty soon you can have a very nasty situation. The OP may be all fine with having a sexual encounter or two, but what about her? We don't know anything about her, and that's why it's best to keep things on a purely professional level.

Best to prevent things before they move from hypotheses to real facts,
The Love Goddess

This only  happen when an attractive co worker begins flirting with me and hugging me in an erotic way.  Luckily were both single.  So this doesn't bother me at all.  I actually welcome it.  I sometime get embarrassed  when I see the budge in my pants.

My little head wants to give into her and have sex , and my Bigger head says "NO because you would only want her for sex."

Any advice on controlling my outburst Erections with out having sex with her.  I feel one day I might give into her and have sex.  Trying to stay strong.  :-)

TheLoveGoddess2747 reads

Hmmm....how about this one, Goldenlight,

Sex between co-workers is considered unethical and grounds for termination, particularly if others get wind of this and call it "sexual harassment" [yes, I know, anything that your colleagues might object to can fall into this category these days].

Consequences of this are not pretty - the "offenders" usually get hauled in by superiors and given stern warnings. And if you're the boss - good grief, cease and desist immediately [anyone following the Dov Charney nightmare at American Apparel - it's getting worse by the minute].

Your erections should be controlled by fear of termination, suspension, lawsuits, rumors, and general embarrassment, should your little potential tête–à–têtes become fodder for gossip and innuendos. In the meantime, go screw a non-colleague, a wife, or even a provider - isn't that what this website is for?

Not purdy or fun at all,
The Love Goddess

Ms. LG,

I have enjoyed this board for years and find your advice to generally be interesting, almost always helpful to situations that applied to me, and never really troubling.  I am afraid you this time, you are off-base.

Your advice to this mildy troubled fellow was disappointing and loaded with misinformation.  Make no mistake about it, relationships between coworkers (whether merely physical or deeply emotional) can have all sorts of problems, only some of which you mentioned.  You broad brush statement about these relationships being "unethical and grounds for termination" is flat out incorrect unless there is an extremely well-structured company policy in place forbidding such relationships or unless they occur in the office.  Neither of these situations happens often.  Sexual harassment occurs either when someone offers something in exchange for a sexual relationship with someone over whom they have some sort of professional "power" or when a "hostile environment" is created related to expressed sexual attitudes that are unwelcome.  Flirting with each other, or even having relationships, violates neither of these tenets in the automatic way you describe.

Having said all of the above, as a professional manager of people of a wide range of skills, education, and salary, I acknowledge that workplace relationships can cause problems.  Would managers rather their employees never date each other?  Of course we would, but that is unrealistic, particularly in workplaces that demand a great deal of time and commitment from their employees.  I have coached employees and peers alike to keep it clean in the office as workplace behavior can result in some of the things you describe up to and including termination of problematically offending individuals and even lawsuits.  Parties to a relationship can change their minds and attempt to create workplace problems for other people.  This is where thorough investigation is required to ferret out what is going on the workplace and how it affects productivit.

What should happen is that smart managers watch the workplace for signs of problems and upon obseving something, warn both parties that untoward activities in the workplace is a bad idea and why.  The idea that management should have broad control over the relationships individuals have outside the office is folly and bad policy as well.  It is wise to remind people that the workplace can be about work and if nothing else gets accomplished there, that should be OK with everybody.  It is not OK to put excessive controls over what people do outside the office.

TheLoveGoddess1934 reads

Hmmm....kchots,

I have been both an expert witness at sexual harassment trials and dealt with the "hostile environment" issue, and yes, these have all been major corporations where there have been "well-structured" company policies in place. Flirting was actually one of the issue in one of the cases because OTHER workers found it unwelcome and deemed it "sexual harassment," despite the fact that they were not parties to the flirting themselves.

I don't see that what I posted is very different from what you are describing. Of course it's "not OK to put excessive controls over what people do outside of the office." Then again, it's good to warn "mildly troubled' [your expression, not mine] about what can happen. You are seeing it from a manager's standpoint - I'm seeing it from his. As long as everything is fine and people don't bring issues from their outside sexual relationship in the office, then no one has anything to worry about. But all it takes is that one person gets dumped or treated in some way unfavorably in a relationship and then brings discussions thereof into the office, and pretty soon you can have a very nasty situation. The OP may be all fine with having a sexual encounter or two, but what about her? We don't know anything about her, and that's why it's best to keep things on a purely professional level.

Best to prevent things before they move from hypotheses to real facts,
The Love Goddess

I wondered about your answer too, LG.  It seems to me that there's already some pretty explicit flirting going on.  If co-workers are going to have a problem, then they're going to have a problem whether these two are screwing each other outside of work or not.  As kchots implied, I think relationships with coworkers aren't a problem; it's inappropriate behavior at work.  

My advice to the original poster is that if he wants to date her, he should get over the hang ups about why she apparently likes him and just ask her.  Maybe she only wants sex too.  Or maybe they'll discover that they mesh in other ways he'd never know about otherwise.

Worst case scenario is that they end up not clicking, in which case the flirting and his boners go away.  Original problem solved.

Posted By: TheLoveGoddess
Hmmm....kchots,

I have been both an expert witness at sexual harassment trials and dealt with the "hostile environment" issue, and yes, these have all been major corporations where there have been "well-structured" company policies in place. Flirting was actually one of the issue in one of the cases because OTHER workers found it unwelcome and deemed it "sexual harassment," despite the fact that they were not parties to the flirting themselves.

I don't see that what I posted is very different from what you are describing. Of course it's "not OK to put excessive controls over what people do outside of the office." Then again, it's good to warn "mildly troubled' [your expression, not mine] about what can happen. You are seeing it from a manager's standpoint - I'm seeing it from his. As long as everything is fine and people don't bring issues from their outside sexual relationship in the office, then no one has anything to worry about. But all it takes is that one person gets dumped or treated in some way unfavorably in a relationship and then brings discussions thereof into the office, and pretty soon you can have a very nasty situation. The OP may be all fine with having a sexual encounter or two, but what about her? We don't know anything about her, and that's why it's best to keep things on a purely professional level.

Best to prevent things before they move from hypotheses to real facts,
The Love Goddess

thanks for the advice.  For the moment I was actually having a fantasy and my Bigger head was trying to talk me out of the fantasy.  I guest I need to see one of the nice ladies on this board and hopefully my erections will go away..  Thanks!!

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