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Often times, when a new lady and i are "getting to know" one another by chatting or whatever, i take out my phone and show pictures of the work i do. I am a chef. Not a great one but i am better than average.  
One skill in particular seems to light up peoples eyes. I can carve fruit into flowers.
On one occassion a lady expressed a desire for me to teach her. I told her i would be happy to but not as part of a date.
She reacted in shock. I couldn't figure out if she was insulted that i would assume she would wsnt me to pay for the opportunity to teach her or if she thought i was being cheap.  
So was i being cheap to think that i should not spend 300 an hour to teach someone something that would cost them 500 to learn if they went to a seminar? Was i just insensitive and did i insult her

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Posted By: jdmor
Often times, when a new lady and i are "getting to know" one another by chatting or whatever, i take out my phone and show pictures of the work i do. I am a chef. Not a great one but i am better than average.  
 One skill in particular seems to light up peoples eyes. I can carve fruit into flowers.  
 On one occassion a lady expressed a desire for me to teach her. I told her i would be happy to but not as part of a date.  
 She reacted in shock. I couldn't figure out if she was insulted that i would assume she would wsnt me to pay for the opportunity to teach her or if she thought i was being cheap.  
 So was i being cheap to think that i should not spend 300 an hour to teach someone something that would cost them 500 to learn if they went to a seminar? Was i just insensitive and did i insult her?  
 

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jdmor1639 reads

Please explain what you think is wrong with my question.

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mikeymike611252 reads

No, you are right on target,  
I have a couple of buddies that hobby, and we share stories and inside information.
We all think that if a provider wants to go to dinner afterward, or wants to go jet ski-ing one day, or boating, or shooting at the gun range, then fine, those are all expensive activities and if they want to go as friends, then game on. But paying someone $300 an hour to hang out and do all those activities is sort of steep.  
I took a provider to the shooting range one time a few years ago, we had a blast.
I really enjoyed watching the range master try to instruct her with her skin tight halter top and massive 38's poking in his face.  
Then we went back to the hotel and started the "paid" portion of our meeting.  
Everyone was happy, win-win, nothing wrong with that

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jdmor1026 reads

I get it if a provider wants a donation for a dinner date. It's all part of the deal and had been for a long time.  
If i asked her to let me teach her how to do something then, if course she should charge but in this case she asked me.  
I share my knowledge freely. I don't care.  I just didn't want to pay for the opportunity to do it.
I appreciate your response.  
I just want our anonymous friend to explain why my question is a joke.
I also want some of the ladies to weigh in.

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LucasHood1122 reads

Well, first I'd like to know if you showed her out of your phone, pics of the wife and kids? Also was she possibly able to catch your real phone number off of it or have you already given it to her? Two, in looking at the nature of the ladies you've seen, do you really think they want FREE cooking lessons in the kitchenette of their $149 a week luxury extended stay? Nada against BP girls, other than you get what you pay for as you've clearly learned, they're there to deliver sex, get paid and get you out the door. To an extent, you answered your own question. Extended date? Cook them dinner. Problem solved! Just don't bring them home. You know. Where you live. Where you have valuables. Maybe a SO. Where you may have nosy neighbors. Capiche?  

As for being 'anonymous,' it's quite helpful. In your case, if you used an alias, no one would have to look at your dating uh 'history.' In my case, who I see is my biz not yours. Oh. And on this Mother's Day, as fine a lady as yours is, if by chance she really did name you JDMOR, I'd love to know why assuming that's not an alias?

Oh. One last thing. As the ladies pile in on this thread maybe they'll have some better 'ads.' I'm sure there'll be a surge of them. Have a great week! :)

Posted By: jdmor
I get it if a provider wants a donation for a dinner date. It's all part of the deal and had been for a long time.  
 If i asked her to let me teach her how to do something then, if course she should charge but in this case she asked me.  
 I share my knowledge freely. I don't care.  I just didn't want to pay for the opportunity to do it.  
 I appreciate your response.  
 I just want our anonymous friend to explain why my question is a joke.  
 I also want some of the ladies to weigh in.

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jdmor1218 reads

Thank you Lucas. Thank you for being you.  
I always try to see the good in people.
I figure everyone i meet has something to teach me.
You have done just that!  
You have taught me how not to behave.
Thank you!
You mentioned my mom in your post. Unless i am misinterpeting your sarcasm i must ask you to never do that again.
My mom is a great lady. She raised two unruly boys alone while holding a job as a teacher in Chicago.. i daresay she taught kids that were not unlike you. Bullies that hide behind masks and aliases. I know you. I have dealt with you all of my life. I also know you are not worthy to mention or even think about a great lady like my mom. If you must spew hatred please direct it at me. I am here. She is not.  
Lucas, thank you also for being so mean and hateful.
Your petty little ways make it so easy for a simple man like me to shine. Every hate filled post maked people like me look better. I thrive on them. I seldom read them because i know what they say so i don't have to.
Have a great day Lucas! Keep spewing hate! Keep making me look good. :-)

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Thewildthing1155 reads

Since you want ladies to weigh in, I will :) First of all, thanks. Thanks for posting a genuine question with honesty. it's not (at least IMO, a "typical" question, I like your OP here.  

I think that most of the ladies would laugh in your face if you asked them to teach you (pick something) on time THEY were paying for. I find it obnoxious that anyone would assume you would teach them your "art" on YOUR TIME.  

I think it's really sweet that you are so proud of your work you share it with hem at all. THAT kind of openness turns me on but, I can't speak for others.

Anyhoo  ... I like your post and IMO, you're not being cheap.  

 

Posted By: jdmor
I get it if a provider wants a donation for a dinner date. It's all part of the deal and had been for a long time.  
 If i asked her to let me teach her how to do something then, if course she should charge but in this case she asked me.  
 I share my knowledge freely. I don't care.  I just didn't want to pay for the opportunity to do it.  
 I appreciate your response.  
 I just want our anonymous friend to explain why my question is a joke.  
 I also want some of the ladies to weigh in.

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Hardwood4691122 reads

I've yet to see him say anything pleasant.

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LucasHood1256 reads

Good morning sunshine :). Have a great Sunday and a productive week!

Posted By: Hardwood469
I've yet to see him say anything pleasant.

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Captain Cuddles1332 reads

You should just present her what is on your menu.  

Some ideas for what the donation is for her to learn:

cantaloupe: $200.
half a watermelon: $250.
whole watermelon: $325.
orange flower: $125.
etc

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LucasHood1335 reads

Perfect. lol. They'll be lined up at the door b

Posted By: Captain Cuddles
You should just present her what is on your menu.  
   
 Some ideas for what the donation is for her to learn:  
   
 cantaloupe: $200.  
 half a watermelon: $250.  
 whole watermelon: $325.  
 orange flower: $125.  
 etc -  
 
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ElleVegas1269 reads

How you choose to spend that time is
Up to you.   But if you are offering Garde Manger classes I suggest you offer your service as such and not fool the lady.  
How do you know she really wanted to learn how to carve fruit.  
Honestly if you tried that with me, I would have to charge extra for fetish and extra because I'm more then likely higher skilled in GARDE MANGER than you,  and I would be teaching the teacher ;)
Kisses

 
Elle Vegas

 
 

Posted By: jdmor
Often times, when a new lady and i are "getting to know" one another by chatting or whatever, i take out my phone and show pictures of the work i do. I am a chef. Not a great one but i am better than average.  
 One skill in particular seems to light up peoples eyes. I can carve fruit into flowers.  
 On one occassion a lady expressed a desire for me to teach her. I told her i would be happy to but not as part of a date.  
 She reacted in shock. I couldn't figure out if she was insulted that i would assume she would wsnt me to pay for the opportunity to teach her or if she thought i was being cheap.  
 So was i being cheap to think that i should not spend 300 an hour to teach someone something that would cost them 500 to learn if they went to a seminar? Was i just insensitive and did i insult her?  
 
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DJ19851297 reads

It would be absurd to pay a lady to teach her a skill she wants to learn, whether you think it's a skill worth knowing or not. When he said that she "expressed a desire for me to teach her" that's a good indicator she wanted to learn. While I agree it's ridiculous to suggest his lesson would be worth $500, your response that you would charge extra because you are likely higher skilled in GARDE MANGER is equally ridiculous. You come across as someone who believes her time is much more valuable than the time of those that choose to see you. I am glad the ladies I have been lucky enough to spend time with are not as full of themselves as you appear to be.

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ElleVegas1322 reads

Don't
Mistaken confidence for being
Full of Myself. I'm a classically trained chef and I know a little about Garde Manger (of
Which I am sure that has zero meaning to
You)  and that is the class of  carving fruits into flowers, among many other things. Another, perhaps read before you reply as I said I would charge more as it seems almost like a fetish to
Involve fruits and such, that was a
Joke. Perhaps you missed that.
Hope you are enjoying this special day.

But thank you for your feedback.

Kisses
Elle Vegas

 

Posted By: DJ1985
It would be absurd to pay a lady to teach her a skill she wants to learn, whether you think it's a skill worth knowing or not. When he said that she "expressed a desire for me to teach her" that's a good indicator she wanted to learn. While I agree it's ridiculous to suggest his lesson would be worth $500, your response that you would charge extra because you are likely higher skilled in GARDE MANGER is equally ridiculous. You come across as someone who believes her time is much more valuable than the time of those that choose to see you. I am glad the ladies I have been lucky enough to spend time with are not as full of themselves as you appear to
Be.

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DJ19851273 reads

Perhaps delusions of grandeur but not confidence, and even more, a woman who is utterly full of her self.

The best of the day to you,
and the sweetest of dreams tonight.

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ElleVegas1085 reads

I'll be more than happy to share ;)
No delusions or lies here sweetheart.
Kiss mom for me

Kisses

Elle Vegas  
 

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DJ19851409 reads

Your reviews show your performance is good and you are well liked by the men that pay to spend time with you. Your responses say to me that you have a rather large ego and think you are better than others, I find those qualities to be less than attractive.  
 If only I could bring my mother back from heaven and give her a kiss on mothers day. Maybe you could tell me how to do that, if not it just sounds like a classless comment.

Best of all things to you,
And again sweet dreams

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Whoa

Posted By: ElleVegas
Don't  
 Mistaken confidence for being  
 Full of Myself. I'm a classically trained chef and I know a little about Garde Manger (of  
 Which I am sure that has zero meaning to  
 You)  and that is the class of  carving fruits into flowers, among many other things. Another, perhaps read before you reply as I said I would charge more as it seems almost like a fetish to  
 Involve fruits and such, that was a  
 Joke. Perhaps you missed that.  
 Hope you are enjoying this special day.  
   
 But thank you for your feedback.  
   
 Kisses  
 Elle Vegas  
   
   
   
Posted By: DJ1985
It would be absurd to pay a lady to teach her a skill she wants to learn, whether you think it's a skill worth knowing or not. When he said that she "expressed a desire for me to teach her" that's a good indicator she wanted to learn. While I agree it's ridiculous to suggest his lesson would be worth $500, your response that you would charge extra because you are likely higher skilled in GARDE MANGER is equally ridiculous. You come across as someone who believes her time is much more valuable than the time of those that choose to see you. I am glad the ladies I have been lucky enough to spend time with are not as full of themselves as you appear to  
 Be.

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jdmor1164 reads

Take it easy dj. She probably is more skilled than me!
I am more of an entree chef. I mostly worked saute and broil until i started "pullng" the kitchen as an expiditer. Garde Manger is a term few people know much less understand. The fact that she throws it out tells me a lot.  
I have also checked out her website and her review. She is a great lady! She is not full of herself as you sugest. If she was she wouldn't be so successful in her field.
Finally, Elle and i have had a few corespondences. She is intelligent and witty.  
I appreciate your input and attempt to defend me but it is not necessary.
If you give her a chance i bet she would charm your sox off! ( and maybe othet garments too;-)
If you don't mind me butting in i would suggest you kiss and make up. Don't let this little misunderstanding get in the eay of knowing such a wonderful lady.
By the way. Elle and i have enjoyed a few jokes together. Hers are usually better. Take a look at my reply to her comment on the "love bug" thread. See i make bad jokes at her expense. :-)

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LucasHood1165 reads

You're a very very very impressive Mangina. Well done. 😐

Posted By: jdmor
Take it easy dj. She probably is more skilled than me!  
 I am more of an entree chef. I mostly worked saute and broil until i started "pullng" the kitchen as an expiditer. Garde Manger is a term few people know much less understand. The fact that she throws it out tells me a lot.  
 I have also checked out her website and her review. She is a great lady! She is not full of herself as you sugest. If she was she wouldn't be so successful in her field.  
 Finally, Elle and i have had a few corespondences. She is intelligent and witty.  
 I appreciate your input and attempt to defend me but it is not necessary.  
 If you give her a chance i bet she would charm your sox off! ( and maybe othet garments too;-)  
 If you don't mind me butting in i would suggest you kiss and make up. Don't let this little misunderstanding get in the eay of knowing such a wonderful lady.  
 By the way. Elle and i have enjoyed a few jokes together. Hers are usually better. Take a look at my reply to her comment on the "love bug" thread. See i make bad jokes at her expense. :-)

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jdmor983 reads

Thanks again Lucas!

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Posted By: jdmor
Thanks again Lucas!

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HaleyOrlando1209 reads

If she said that fruit carving time is on her and  time after would be on yours then you know there is a financial time after. So there's no hard feelings these things should be open and discussed. Hurt feelings about such discussions are far better than two people getting angry or upset over a financial arrangement going bad.  I do some fun things on my time but only knowing that they are spending 2 hours of paid time with me after or before. It's discussed openly when plans are made with no hurt feelings.  

I love live theater so friend pays for romantic dinner and tickets we have appetizer before, then dinner and theater . I tuck him into bed with sweet dreams. He does a 3 hour outcall with me. Another likes to go swimming at my favorite nudist resort when he comes into town with similar concept. Playtime at room, dinner naked at resort with some playtime after dark. Drop him off at hotel and head home.

You should not worry about hurting anyone's feeling in this case.

Kisses Haley

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jdmor932 reads

This was my thought on the matter. I just wasn't sure.  
After reading some of the posts i am sorry i even brought it up.

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DJ1985974 reads

This is what happens on discussion boards, people voice their differing opinions. Your job is to take the responses and decide what makes sense to you, this was a good topic.

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HaleyOrlando1224 reads

Thought provoking doesn't happen here to often lately so your post is great. Getting people to voice an opinion makes the board active. What's a forum without something to read. We all have our own opinions on how to handle things which you now will observe. Keep coming back to read any new posts since things stay on the first page for more than a few days.

Personalities sure do butt heads at times. Makes for some interesting interactions

Kisses Haley

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LucasHood1273 reads

Haha yup that'll work

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ElleVegas1023 reads

Showing somebody how to make a flower out of a radish or strawberry is hardley worth anywhere close to this.  
C'mon you know better.

Kisses
Elle Vegas
 

Posted By: jdmor
Often times, when a new lady and i are "getting to know" one another by chatting or whatever, i take out my phone and show pictures of the work i do. I am a chef. Not a great one but i am better than average.  
 One skill in particular seems to light up peoples eyes. I can carve fruit into flowers.  
 On one occassion a lady expressed a desire for me to teach her. I told her i would be happy to but not as part of a date.  
 She reacted in shock. I couldn't figure out if she was insulted that i would assume she would wsnt me to pay for the opportunity to teach her or if she thought i was being cheap.  
 So was i being cheap to think that i should not spend 300 an hour to teach someone something that would cost them 500 to learn if they went to a seminar? Was i just insensitive and did i insult her?  
 
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jdmor1051 reads

You got me! The seminar i was referring to is a 5 hour a day 5 day seminar.

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jdmor1289 reads

If you are good at carvimg you and i ought to collaborate on some Georgia O'Keefe style flowers carved put of melons. We could sell them to various meet and greets or even to the Pleasure Concierge's get togethers.
I can barely imagine you teasingly tasting one of those tasty moist little blossoms. ;-)

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jdmor1023 reads

Those are great! I was thinking a little sexier but you certainly have the skill to pull it off. Is that cucumber done with only a paring knife?

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jdmor1360 reads

Don't assume it was her lack of skills. It was probably mine. I am still new at this. These " relationships" have unwtitten rules that i am still learning. She has quite a nice reputation. She is a great lady.
If i were you i would assume i am the one at fault.

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SuperBustyBlonde1213 reads

Don't worry about it.  She probably thought the fruit carving would be easy to learn not realizing the intricacies of it

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Flguytampa21924 reads

She is being money hungry.  I had a session last week, paid for the session (300).  I have seen 4 times and she is comfortable with me.  After, we were just hanging out for a few hours.  We went out for a medium priced lunch.  But hopefully you have negotiated before hand and know ho long you are going for.

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