The timing became an issue because of the way you presented it.
.... In any event I’m glad to hear Dahlia is doing well and that I’ve generated a lot of business for her. In fact she’s going to be in St. Louis in a couple of days – hmmmm, wonder if I’ll hear from her? The purpose of my post was not to be a bad review as these ladies may be magnificent behind closed doors. But if you are going to see them/her just make sure that no LE issues get in the way.
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This happened last fall but I didn’t report it until now as I was unaware of this section of TER. Since we never got together I wasn’t able to do a review but I think this may be the place to alert clients to possible problems with these two ladies.
I live in St. Louis but it seems like we have very few providers who offer BBBJTCNQNS. So I was looking for this in Kansas City and ran across Meichelle (TER 233051) who looked very nice (although I’m not sure she is still active). In addition, she said she was into ladies and did doubles with Dahlia Urban (TER 231529 and P411 85806) so I was very interested and decided to make a trip to KC to visit them.
This was set up a few weeks in advance and I told them I was looking to them for guidance since I knew nothing of KC. I suggested the Homewood Suites in Overland Park, KS, simply because I had met two providers at a Homewood in St. Louis so thought maybe they were “provider friendly” and they agreed to it.
So on the day of the appointment I drove to KC and checked in to the Homewood. I received a text from Meichelle about 2:50 in the afternoon (the appointment was at 3:00) saying she was on the way and to have my ID ready. I responded and said fine. Then I didn’t hear anything until about 3:10 which I thought was weird. And what I heard was even weirder as it was a text from Dahlia saying she was sorry but something came up and she couldn’t make it.
Obviously I was stunned so I texted Meichelle and asked if she was still coming but no response. So I waited about 20 minutes and since I heard nothing I checked out and decided to drive back to St. Louis that afternoon. As I was leaving I texted Dahlia and said if she was worried about LE maybe we could meet somewhere. It turns out that was the problem as they apparently came to the hotel but saw some men outside that looked suspicious so they decided to bail.
So Dahlia said yes we could meet at a bar and I agreed and was waiting for her to get me the address. When she finally sent it I she said it would only be her and was that all right. Well, no, it wasn’t all right as her menu didn’t include my favorite item and driving to KC to see one person without that was not my idea of a good idea.
My last text from Dahlia said she wished I had been staying in Missouri instead of Kansas (apparently the state line divides the city of KC) as the LE is much less of a problem. I was simply stunned as how on earth was I supposed to know this and why wasn’t it brought up earlier? The only purpose of my trip was to see the two of them and I would have stayed ANYWHERE.
At some point in the texting Dahlia said “sorry for the inconvenience” which I thought was a curious choice of words. Apparently spending eight hours driving 500 miles and spending about $240 for the room and gas is an “inconvenience”. I wanted you to be aware of my experience with these ladies so that you might proceed with extreme caution
Why post this 6-8 months later? You scheduled that appointment with Meichelle. She got to the hotel before I did, and said the environment looked fishy. She told me NOT to come into the hotel parking lot. She told me that she called you to cancel the appointment that YOU and HER had set up. I had NO involvement in scheduling this appointment NOR did I get to screen you. I asked her for your phone number so that I could send an apology for not being able to come to the appointment per Meichelle's instructions. SAFETY is and will ALWAYS be number one for me! No Exceptions. If a girl tells me it looks like a sting, and tells me not to show up. Guess what I am going to do? Turn around, and go home. I did not owe you that courtesy text at all as it was YOU and MEICHELLE that had set the whole thing up. So I ask you good sir... WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE/AGENDA for reporting this incident 6-8 months later? You know damn well that Meichelle has retired. You sir are still a little fishy to me!!! Dahlia
I don’t intend to keep this going back and forth but thought I would at least respond to a couple of the points in your rebuttal. The reason this was posted six to eight months later was listed in the first sentence of my post and was simply that I was unaware of this section of TER until very recently.
You are correct that I made the appointment with Meichelle but I think you are being somewhat disingenuous in putting all of the blame on her. I sent a duplicate of all my correspondence with her to you (through P411 messaging) so that you would be aware of what was going on. And one of the points discussed was whether or not to use the Homewood by the airport instead of Overland Park. It seems that you could have mentioned the LE situation at that time and maybe I avoid all this trouble and disappointment.
As to screening, you could have done that very easily with P411 where I have at least a dozen provider okays. And saying Meichelle made the call to cancel is simply incorrect since it was a text from you (as pointed out in my original post) that told me you were cancelling.
Finally, I do not know “damn well” that Meichelle has retired as I live in St. Louis and for some reason I have lost ALL interest in going to Kansas City again. Since Meichelle was listed on your website as a doubles partner I guess I felt that there would be some communication between the two of you that would have prevented this “inconvenience”
The question is(not that he took so long to post his complaint)is why did Michelle and Dahlia scam /lie to the man???????????????
LOL Nice Try (friend or "co-worker" of Apache77).
I do NOT have even one bad review out of all the years I have been in the business. Not one...
I have a Magnificent reputation so your false accusations lead me to believe that you must "know" Apache 77, and are just trying to cause problems for me.
BUT...
Have you ever heard the saying in Hollywood, "Bad publicity is Good publicity"? How can I get angry or upset with you two when you are generating business for me? So contrary to the reaction you thought you'd get, I'm extending sincere gratitude. Thank You for the free advertising. Enjoy the rest of your weekend gentlemen. ;-D
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Just wanted to say thanks to The Boy for his post as I was wondering what difference the time it took me to post made. Someone else brought that up and it just seemed weird to me.
But I would like to set the record straight and say that I really don’t feel like I was scammed or lied to by these ladies. It was just them being overly cautious in my mind about LE issues (maybe they had some recent trouble which was the reason behind it). In any event, all my trouble could have easily been avoided if they had just put some effort into making the arrangements and letting me know where I should stay. I’ve often thought that many providers don’t run their business like I would. Of course, I don’t have ladies wanting to drive to St. Louis from KC to give me a lot of money so they can go to bed with me so I guess that’s largely irrelevant.
One final note is that a few days after this incident I started thinking with the little head and asked them if we could try again. I was also thinking that I might get a reduced rate (as someone else suggested an “inconvenience” session). But that definitely didn’t happen. In fact, Dahlia said she thought I should come to KC and just see Meichelle and then she would decide after that if she wanted to do a double. I didn’t take her up on the offer.
In any event I’m glad to hear Dahlia is doing well and that I’ve generated a lot of business for her. In fact she’s going to be in St. Louis in a couple of days – hmmmm, wonder if I’ll hear from her? The purpose of my post was not to be a bad review as these ladies may be magnificent behind closed doors. But if you are going to see them/her just make sure that no LE issues get in the way
Just to be clear..
Meichelle thought YOU were LE - a sting/ setup. This is why she called me to say "Do not come into the parking lot. "
Just to be clear...
We (before her retirement) are extremely cautious and thorough screeners because we use a two-fold system: (1) Your information submitted for our screening AND (2) The MOST Important method... Intuition / Gut Feeling. This has offered us the luxury of being LE FREE. So, once again, false accusations. We have had NO trouble with LE as your words are attempting to insinuate. Once again you are trying to cause problems for me. (LOL)
"Hey Man Nice Shot" ~Quote from Filter song~
I feel bad for you that you are so stuck on a problem the size of a grain of sand. Please do NOT let a minor incident steal your Joy. There is nothing so big in this world that is ever worth losing your Joy or Peace over. Nothing...
I wish you the best hoping that you are able to find forgiveness for us both, and are able to move forward with your Life.
Dahlia 
But I would like to set the record straight and say that I really don’t feel like I was scammed or lied to by these ladies. It was just them being overly cautious in my mind about LE issues (maybe they had some recent trouble which was the reason behind it). In any event, all my trouble could have easily been avoided if they had just put some effort into making the arrangements and letting me know where I should stay. I’ve often thought that many providers don’t run their business like I would. Of course, I don’t have ladies wanting to drive to St. Louis from KC to give me a lot of money so they can go to bed with me so I guess that’s largely irrelevant.
One final note is that a few days after this incident I started thinking with the little head and asked them if we could try again. I was also thinking that I might get a reduced rate (as someone else suggested an “inconvenience” session). But that definitely didn’t happen. In fact, Dahlia said she thought I should come to KC and just see Meichelle and then she would decide after that if she wanted to do a double. I didn’t take her up on the offer.
In any event I’m glad to hear Dahlia is doing well and that I’ve generated a lot of business for her. In fact she’s going to be in St. Louis in a couple of days – hmmmm, wonder if I’ll hear from her? The purpose of my post was not to be a bad review as these ladies may be magnificent behind closed doors. But if you are going to see them/her just make sure that no LE issues get in the way.
The timing became an issue because of the way you presented it.
Then you post this:
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In any event I’m glad to hear Dahlia is doing well and that I’ve generated a lot of business for her. In fact she’s going to be in St. Louis in a couple of days – hmmmm, wonder if I’ll hear from her? The purpose of my post was not to be a bad review as these ladies may be magnificent behind closed doors. But if you are going to see them/her just make sure that no LE issues get in the way.
After reading the back and forth between you and Dahlia, I came away with a couple impressions. First, she handled the situation very maturely. Secondly, there seems to have been a communication problem between you and Meichelle but without seeing the actual communications I'll reserve my judgement.
Something happened to spook Meichelle. A hot location, suspicious men in the parking lot, maybe other stuff too. Yes you're P411 with multiple Oks but accounts have gotten compromised before.
Maybe I'm reading into it, but it seems like you were stuck on using a Homewood Suites. Maybe that also caused her to get suspicious and spooked. Personally, before I drove that far to see a providers I'd just flat out ask them what location they'd recommend to make the reservation at.
Its an unfortunate situation and I totally understand you being upset about it. It sucks for me just driving to St. Louis to get cancelled on last minute.
But it seems to me that Dahlia has handled it all very maturely and professionally. She let you know there was a problem after Meichelle got spooked which it sounds like Meichelle did not bother to do. By your own account Dahlia was willing to meet you at a bar to check you out and then if she felt comfortable complete her end of the date. It was you who nixed that idea since Meichelle was not willing to do so. By your own account, you wanted Meichelle and her bbbjcimnqns not so much just Dahlia. So at that point what could Dahlia do. Its not like she could force Meichelle to complete the date. Yes, you were out the travel time and expenses but if you think about it Dahlia also lost a good chunk of money in the situation since she probably turned down other opportunities.
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You should of done/reported this when the incident happened so that other gents could avoid. You know it's really annoying and time wasting to have to go through all that to be disappointment. What they should of done was offer you a Inconvenience Session. On the other hand I wouldn't of made that much effort to see them or any provider.
You have been a member on TER for over 3 years [ at least] and have 29 reviews dating back to early 2011 but was unaware of the discussion boards?
Yeah , I can see why some would find this post a little odd.
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Wow - I find that pretty unbelievable. I'm an old (68) somewhat technologically challenged geezer and when I say I was unaware of the discussion boards that's the absolute truth. Besides, why on earth if I was aware of them would I wait for six months to post this? Does that make any sense to you? It certainly doesn't to me. As you can imagine, I was pretty upset about my "inconvenience" and was trying to figure out how to make it public. I exchanged a number of emails with P411 about what happened but they didn't seem to have a solution.
Dahlia, first of all you are a class act. The way you have handled this post speaks volumes. Apache really is a harmless older gent. Unfortunately, some of the local guys have made bad hobby form an accepted practice, and because we all know one another it never really gets questioned. I totally understand where you are coming from. You are a breath of fresh air, and I hate that you are being publicly crucified.
Apache, I've always thought highly of you. Sweetie, never assume one hotel chain is always safe. It really has to do with where it's located. Quite frankly, no hotel chain is "provider friendly." It really depends on how an individual provider conducts herself. The area you were staying in makes St. Louis's hot zones look like Mayberry. Maybe, the ladies could have suggested you stay in another area, but there are many facets of screening you will never know about. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but didn't you ask about specific acts? That alone is a huge no-no. Once a lady feels there is a red flag, there really isn't any making it up, in that moment. If you want me to be more specific in how your conduct could scare ladies off please e-mail me. Yes, it is a huge downer to travel all that way only to be disappointed.
You both are good people, and I hope you can find resolve in this situation :.
So, I'm jumping onto this thread because similarly to the situation apache77 reported 6-8mths later, he posted a review on me during the same time he posts this, and it's been a year since I've seen him.
I actually liked this guy, so I find it very odd that he put in my review that he wouldn't see me again, when I've seen him at least twice.
He says I pushed him out the door, well, he asked for a discount- which I never give, but he had many okays and painted himself in such a light that he truly appealed to me as a good, kind soul. The discount involved an agreement for a shorter time frame.
He also posts that he had the feeling I was coming form a "real job" as if that is a bad thing that I live a well rounded life and don't just escort. Very judgmental coming from someone that asks for a discount and a last minute appointment.
Like Dahila, all of my past reviews have been very positive. I'm not sinking to the level to defend myself against apache77, the reason there are so many escorts is if you don't like one, don't repeat or find another. If someone is a scam artist, by all means say so. On the flip side, I see apache77 as playing the sympathy "poor me I'm retired I don't know how to navigate TER, (etc, etc-I won't divulge any personal info on what story this man told me) card. I'm thinking it is apache77 that is the scam artist.
I do not misrepresent myself and have made many hobby friends along the way. I did remove my p411 ok for apache77, since he is seemingly on a quest to undermine and disparage providers.
Also I agree with Dahila in telling you apache77 that I hope you can find peace in your life, that whatever is making you lash out via the internet can be resolved, somehow. I believe you are a truly good person, and I hope whatever is going on with you now passes and you can return to being that way.