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Re: If someone has truly misrepresented themselves, I think it's ok to walk away
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I agree with Ron too. I always hear about clients not being happy but leaving the full amount and coming up with some excuse to leave. This type of thing is the reason why some girls continue to get away with deceiving. If no one paid them then they wouldn't have a motivation to do this.  
If it's not a full blown (pardon the pun lol) deception and it's just something like a dirty place then I guess maybe leave a little something before leaving.  
The worst thing I hear though is when people actually go thru with the date when the person was totally not what they represented themselves as. I saw a review where the guy kept complaining that the provider's place was filthy, smelled like cats and cigarettes, she was 50 lbs heavier, way older and her body smelled so bad he almost puked... And wait for it....he said he MIGHT REPEAT! Smh! Lol
Everyone just needs to play fair, use good judgement, and do your homework. Simple as that.  
Xo
Alex

Recently I met a girl that had no reviews. I probably shouldn't have but she responded quickly when another appointment fell through. Live and learn right?
So here is my deal... She was not representing herself accurately in her ads and her place was filthy. The smell alone was offensive enought but the ancient dust clinging to the swag chain leading to the light on her ceiling was like a horror movie.  
Here is my question,
How do you walk away from this situation without insulting or hurting the ladies feelings. I know I shouldn't care if I hurt a girls who would deceive like that's feelings but I am not a cold heartless jerk.
Also, I wonder about some black list I have read about. What if I show up at someones door and see she is using pictures that are 20 years old but she is otherwise a reputable and well reviewed lady. If I walk away and she is insulted can I end up on a black list?
If any of you guys are going to just tell me "forget about some chick that is clearly deceiving everyone" Then I don't care to hear it. I honestly want a good way to back out without hurting anyone. I especially want to hear what some of the ladies have to say. Maybe they can help.

I would explain that unfortunately you do not believe that the two of you are compatible, apologize for the inconvenience and offer her half. (Something to be said here for doing your homework and only seeing well reviewed entertainers).

Hope this has been helpful for you.

Thank you Miss Breeze. I know at least for a while I will do exactly as you say and only try to meet girls that have been reviewed on this site. That will save me from ending up in that position. I will eventually feel the need to explore outside of this circle just so I feel like I am helping the community. Remember if someone didn't toftt with you back in may 2010 then we wouldn't have your reviews to look at. By the way, congratulations for such outstanding reviews. I am impressed!  I hope I can meet you one day!;-)  
Thank you again for the advice.

If I walked into a situation where someone was offering private massage, and the masseuse was not the person in their photos or their place was filthy, I would politely inform them that I was leaving for those reasons.  

It's sweet of you to think of not hurting her feelings, but if you don't tell her, surely some other client will.  

There is no need for you to waste your money taking care of someone else - especially when you're specifically hiring a professional to take care of you!  

Just my 2 cents.  

Very grateful to the fine folks on TER who took a chance on me!  

Posted By: jdmor
Recently I met a girl that had no reviews. I probably shouldn't have but she responded quickly when another appointment fell through. Live and learn right?  
 So here is my deal... She was not representing herself accurately in her ads and her place was filthy. The smell alone was offensive enought but the ancient dust clinging to the swag chain leading to the light on her ceiling was like a horror movie.  
 Here is my question,  
 How do you walk away from this situation without insulting or hurting the ladies feelings. I know I shouldn't care if I hurt a girls who would deceive like that's feelings but I am not a cold heartless jerk.  
 Also, I wonder about some black list I have read about. What if I show up at someones door and see she is using pictures that are 20 years old but she is otherwise a reputable and well reviewed lady. If I walk away and she is insulted can I end up on a black list?  
 If any of you guys are going to just tell me "forget about some chick that is clearly deceiving everyone" Then I don't care to hear it. I honestly want a good way to back out without hurting anyone. I especially want to hear what some of the ladies have to say. Maybe they can help.

Thank you too for your advice. So you don't think i should pay half? I think I would agree with Autunm Breeze on this one. I think i should pay at leasf a token amount for her time. It could also be a sort of tax for me so I might learn to be more careful.
I can't speak for everybody but judging by your TER ratings and your reviews we should be thanking you for your efforts.  
You are one more reason i need to go to Miami!

I met her at a meet and greet recently and thoroughly enjoyed spending time visiting with her.  A very intelligent, pleasant, interesting and attractive young lady who clearly can stimulate her friends in more than one way!

I'm happy to see her contributing comments to the board and can assure others that her opinions are certainly not just random thoughts to get her name in front of everyone on the board.  

I look forward to the chance to see her again sometime.

Thank you for the kind words. I'm enjoying the discussions on TER boards and learning a lot from people who post. So far folks have been civil, intelligent, and very helpful to me as a new provider.  

Looking forward to seeing you again, pitchingwedge :)

You and Autumn Breeze are no doubt more experienced than I am, so I'm happy to learn etiquette.  

In my personal practice, I view each encounter as an opportunity to have a hot adventure and authentic connection. My photos are accurate because I only want to meet folks who are attracted to me, small, sensitive breasts and curvy booty and all.  

If you ever make it to Miami, it would be my pleasure to create a beautiful experience with you.

That's what I am trying to do. Learn the proper etiquette. Nice choice of words. I still worry about hurting the lady though. I mean if she is using old photos certainly she is already a little self conscious about her looks. Who am I to show up and walk away and just add to that problem? I am just trying to find away to get out of it without hurting her feelings. Me being mean or callous to her situation won't help. I was thinking I might just get a "phone call" right fter I get there. I can make the excuse of there being an emergency and she might think I was BS.ing but she wouldn't be sure. I know it's not honest but at least it saves her feelings a little. Expecially if I leave her half or so of the money for her time and efforts.
if the problem is that the house is filty or if it is too unsafe in the neighborhood I think it would probably be o.k. either not get out of my car and just call her or else walk out of the house and leave without leaving money. In both cases imwould be honest and upfront about my reason for leaving.She can decide to change the situation or not.
My reasoning between the two is that she may not be able to control her looks entirely somit would be cruel to hurt her. We can all keep a clean home or incall. That is just laziness and we can all just decide not to be lazy to fix that problem That is why I think there is a difference between the two situations and they require a different response.  
By the way Courtney, you are just one more reason to come to Miami! Wow! I read your reviews and your website. Wow! I think I am going to need to plan an entire week there someday so I can visit as many of you beautiful ladies as I can. When I added you to my favorites list, and it's not very long, I found almost half of the ladies were from Miami. You guys living down there are truly lucky men! I'm not complaining it's not like Tampa is a desert but there is so much to drink in Miami I am a little jealous.

If you show up and "get a call" you owe her the whole amount because you booked an appointment with her and then "had to leave". If you leave because of the condition of her incall or because of fake or misleading photos it's on her. You can be honest without being cruel, there is a place and demand for every look and body type here but fake or inacurite photos, or bait and switch shouldn't be rewarded. Proper etiquette goes both ways and your time is just as valuable as hers, you are the customer and as with any business speaking with your money speaks the loudest.

You've got a good point.

You don't owe her anything if she is misrepresenting herself and you walk away because of it, all paying her for doing that does is encourage her deceptive ways. If you stay because you don't want to hurt her feelings you owe her the whole amount.

I fully agree with Courtney.  If I make an appointment with someone who truly misrepresented themself, I would just walk away.  I wouldn't pay anything, she brought the situation on, wasted my time, and may have cost me an enjoyable time with an honest provider.  However, if the situation didn't suit me, as she is working out of a filthy place or some other dis-agreeable condition to  me, but no attempt to deceive, I would give a small token for her time, the amount would be dependent on the situation.

That's a good situation and very reasonable. I like all of these comments. I expected more mean spirited comments from some of the guys. I'm glad it isn't turning out that way.

I agree with Ron too. I always hear about clients not being happy but leaving the full amount and coming up with some excuse to leave. This type of thing is the reason why some girls continue to get away with deceiving. If no one paid them then they wouldn't have a motivation to do this.  
If it's not a full blown (pardon the pun lol) deception and it's just something like a dirty place then I guess maybe leave a little something before leaving.  
The worst thing I hear though is when people actually go thru with the date when the person was totally not what they represented themselves as. I saw a review where the guy kept complaining that the provider's place was filthy, smelled like cats and cigarettes, she was 50 lbs heavier, way older and her body smelled so bad he almost puked... And wait for it....he said he MIGHT REPEAT! Smh! Lol
Everyone just needs to play fair, use good judgement, and do your homework. Simple as that.  
Xo
Alex

It's reading crazy things like this that make this board fun to follow.

Oh and BTW Alex, nice "Fully Blown" pun.  lo

Guilty as charged! Not the might repeat part though. I didn't do it because my little headwas doing my thinking either. I did it because I was unsure how to back out with out insulting her. I guess I need to worry less about that and more about integrity. It just is not in ky nature to hurt someone's feelings. By the way... I all she did was bbbj because she had no condoms and I wasn't smart enough to prepare,( I never needed to bring them before and I had called her and asked her if we needed anything. She could have told me then.) Also the she was freshly showered but the place did smell like cat piss and the dust was so thick it looked like a new life form.:-) I should have walked. That is the reason I started this thread. Just trying to figure out how to gat out without hurting anyone.

I think it's really sweet that you didn't want to hurt her feelings, but I encourage you to make your physical health and safety a priority (especially with safer sex).

Safety fairy, over and out.

LucasHood543 reads

Walk away. Leave nothing. She has your info. Maybe your real name. What happens next Alex, Courtney ? Just asking.  

Posted By: CourtneySparks
I think it's really sweet that you didn't want to hurt her feelings, but I encourage you to make your physical health and safety a priority (especially with safer sex).  
   
 Safety fairy, over and out.
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To protect your personal information just as much as she does hers. Never give more info than you are comfortable giving and never risk more than you can afford to lose. There are plenty of ladies that will screen you without your real name.

LucasHood587 reads

And what's preventing them from tossing your handle or p411 info onto a blacklist?

Posted By: DJ1985
To protect your personal information just as much as she does hers. Never give more info than you are comfortable giving and never risk more than you can afford to lose. There are plenty of ladies that will screen you without your real name.

LucasHood504 reads

Or bash you on the PO board. Or worse yet, BM you. I've had the latter happen. Trust me, pay a little now saves a lot later sometimes. And no, I've never ever given my real name out or used an agency. Never will.  

Posted By: DJ1985
To protect your personal information just as much as she does hers. Never give more info than you are comfortable giving and never risk more than you can afford to lose. There are plenty of ladies that will screen you without your real name.

I'm a new provider so maybe this one's better for Alex.

That said, the blacklists that I look at are moderated - providers need to have ads up on reputable advertising sites, a personal website, and/or TER reviews to access the blacklist & submit reports.  
I imagine this keeps down the number of crazies and false reports.

More good advice. Thanks. I am new to this scene and will take allof your advice to heart. Thank you again. I did state I got a bbbj and I did not have intercourse. I kmow there is still a chance of disease but from what I read on this site many have done the same. Is the risk do great? If so why do so many do it still?
On the same note I have been sexually active for 34 years. I have lost count of the number of girls I have been with and I have never caught anything at all. I am pretty safe I guess either that or extremely lucky. I like think that I take proper precations when warranted. Maybe that is an illusion though.

This is a tough one to answer. Wish I had the perfect answer. I agree with Courtney that most of the blacklists I've seen make sure you yourself are reputable before allowing you to post negative remarks about guys, but that may certainly not always be the case.

If I were on the guys side of this situation, I think I would only check out a non reviewed girl and TOFTT so to speak if that provider started off with a reputable agency first. This way you would know that it could only be SO bad.  

Maybe that's not the right answer but I can imagine that's how I would handle it if I were a guy and really wanted to see someone new to the scene.

It really sucks (and again with the puns lol) that everyone has to walk on eggshells so much worrying about people on both sides trying to hurt their reputations and blackmailing, etc., considering this whole thing should be FUN. Craziness...  

Ce la vie.
Xo
Alex

Like I told you in the PM, in this business it is okay to walk away.  There are a lot of ladies that mislead you whether it be with fake pictures or false statements you have the right.  I have no issue with TOFTT at times and sometimes you will be surprised at whats on the other end.  And personally I do not believe that you should offer half for misrepresentation as that is not your problem.  I would give her a 20 and state we are not compatible.  There is at least one lady in Tampa who is using fave pictures on various bp ads and was not even close to the pictures and this has been reported on another board.  Just saying....

I have done a no show before.  I believe she was legit because I found her BP postings in Minnesota and one of photos looked like she worked in a strip club somewhere.  When I got to the lady's hotel, a Motel 6.  There was a Sheriff in the parking lot.  Apparently the Motel 6 has a lot of drug deals, etc that go on.  So the Sheriff parks there all night long.  I called her and told I was not coming because of the police.  I do not need my plates run for being in the wrong place.  She obviously tried to convince me it was ok.  But I was not going there.

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