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It is just STUPID!!!

When a man is interested in a woman, he usually takes her out on a date....he usually pays on the first date.  If both parties are interested, they may "get lucky".

Should LE go around arresting everyone who receives dinner and a movie and then has sex?

I don't see much difference.....

Posted on Sat, Jul. 31, 2004

Hotel escorts nabbed

City's hospitality trade draws illicit sex

BY LAURA YUEN

Pioneer Press

The female escorts arrived at the Eagan Extended Stay America, each knocking on a different door. Men inside the rooms had called for some company, and the women had come to work.

But by the end of the night, four escorts — including one 16-year-old — and at least one male accomplice were booked on prostitution-related charges. It turned out their johns were Eagan cops.

The July 23 arrests were part of a periodic effort by Eagan police to target illicit sex in the suburbs by setting up sting operations in any of the city's 15 hotels. Though often considered an urban problem, prostitutes also take their business to outlying areas, especially those with a viable hospitality industry.

"There always seems to be a way for suppliers and customers to get together," said Police Chief Kent Therkelsen. "Some people have called this close to pure capitalism, but I wouldn't use those words. I think it's a crime."

He notes that prostitution is anything but victimless. In addition to exploiting women and girls, it often is tied to other crimes, such as assaults, illegal drugs and robberies.

To some, such proactive law-enforcement methods could seem like entrapment. Are police justified in calling up escorts from out of town, luring them into Eagan and busting them when they cross the line?

Law enforcement officials think so.

"If you work them, you'll get a reputation where they will not come here," said Detective Dave Sebesta of Bloomington police's special investigations unit.

Sebesta said that years ago, his department put the full-court press on hotel prostitution. "It got to the point where they'd ask, 'Where are you at?' And when we told them, they said, 'We don't go there.' "

Eagan police stress that the problem is not overrunning the south suburb. Since 1999, the city has yielded 31 prostitution-related arrests. Officers stage the undercover operations only as needed, often responding to complaints from hotel employees or guests.

But Therkelsen contends the number of arrests probably represent just a small portion of the activity. "It's hard to count what you really can't prove," he said.

Several Eagan hotel managers, including those at Extended Stay America, could not be reached for comment or did not return phone calls for this story. But police and tourism officials said many of them work with law enforcement to keep their businesses clean.

Eagan's proximity to the Twin Cities airport, Mall of America and corporate headquarters make it a prime spot for hotels — and for vice that sets up shop there.

"It's a problem everywhere in the hospitality industry," said Sue Hegarty, public relations director for the Eagan Convention and Visitors Bureau. "With Eagan being along a major interstate, we are prone to it. But I think our hoteliers are trained to recognize it when it occurs and put an end to it quickly."

Part of the challenge has been staying ahead of the world's so-called oldest profession. In the late 1970s and early '80s, prostitutes worked the bars, lounges and parking lots of hotels. In the past several years, though, in-person pickups dropped off. Most prostitutes today advertise on the Internet or in alternative weekly newspapers as female escorts — which are legal, as long as they do not trade sex for cash.

When Sebesta speaks of some prostitutes' Web sites, they sound like fan sites for a rock band. "A lot of them have a circuit, where they visit the same towns every month or two," he said. "They'll put it right on their Web site: 'I'll be in Minneapolis, the week of …' "

Just as frustrating, most prostitution charges are misdemeanors. The suspects pay their fines or post bail and return to work. And many get smarter. "The first-timers are fairly easy to entice. But the longer they're in, the harder it gets," Sebesta said.

In this most recent Eagan sting, officers posing as customers phoned several escort services and reserved a handful of hotel rooms at the Extended Stay, near Pilot Knob and Yankee Doodle roads. Cover officers were in the building nearby.

Typically, once a suspect offers a sexual act in exchange for money, the officers can arrest her, Therkelsen said.

On July 23, Eagan police arrested:

• a 16-year-old girl from Brooklyn Park; Amy Marie Hribar, 26, of Eagan; Melissa Ann Valenzuela, 22, of Burnsville; Josefa Alicia Valenzuela, 22, of Burnsville; all charged with soliciting prostitution.

• Jack Shigeo Young, 21, of Minneapolis, charged with procuring a minor for prostitution.

• Antonio Demetric Nunn, 18, of St. Paul, who allegedly drove one of the women to the site, was charged with driving while his license was suspended.

If you've read some of my posts on the national board, I think you'll conclude that I'm pretty serious about personal liberty, but the presence of the 16 year old does make these kinds of cases troubling.

Hobbyists should take note, that it is hotel staffers, NOT overzealous LE, tend to be the major risk in this business.

Absolutely it is a legitimate LE concern when minors are involved.  However, there is nothing in this article that reads like the intent was to catch people using minors.

Arrested for providing minors for sex. She was put on probation as long as she stayed away from minors. She showed up for her first probation meeting with her children, all of whom were under 16 and sent to prison for violating the terms of her probation

Prostitution has been around for as long as men and women have been on Earth.  Every time LE closes one service, another moves in to fill the void.  Men will always be willing to pay for sex.
Men and women should be able to come to what ever private agreements about sex they want.  After all, the same acts without pay are perfectly legal.  It also does not lead to increase in other crimes.  This is evident by the fact that many nations where is is legal have a lower crime rate than the US.  I love my county, but why do we have to pass laws against a private activity, and let more serious problems continue?

I agree with the reply by Gyppo.  Have said many times that prohibition of prostitution has not worked any more than did prohibition of alcohol.  Right now it is officially only legal in certain parts of Nevada.  That was also at one time the only state where gambling was legal.  Could this be a sign of things to come?

At one time there was an organization under the acronym COYOTE, which stood for Call Off Your Old Tired Ethics, which crusaded for legalization of prostitution.  Whatever movement there was got snowed under when the AIDS scare hit in the late 1980's.  Does anyone on these boards know if this org is still in existence?  Have heard nothing about it for a long time.

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It is just STUPID!!!

When a man is interested in a woman, he usually takes her out on a date....he usually pays on the first date.  If both parties are interested, they may "get lucky".

Should LE go around arresting everyone who receives dinner and a movie and then has sex?

I don't see much difference.....

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