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Re: PenPals
gwd1980 4 Reviews 699 reads
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Thanks, Heather.  

Your comments have a lot of truth and reason in them. They make sense.  

While I am not asking for a 10 paragraph love letter expressing a deep desire to meet me etc. I was hoping for more than one liners and yes, no replies. And I will admit my lack of experience in the hobby could lead to a lack of understanding. And as for the limited reviews, I do not get out of town often and when I do I don't want to spend my money on anyone. I am looking for an experience not just sex, but that is just me. I can have sex just about any day, but I'm looking for a bit kore than that. So I suppose that is why I hesitate and want to make sure the experience will be just that an experience.  

Thanks again for your reply and I'll try and temper my expectations for this part of the hobby.

So I am planning my trip to Vegas which will hopefully include a little fun one evening or two. Because Vegas has soooooo many really beautiful women I'm trying to narrow it down. One thing that's been bugging me for a week or two is an email conversation I've had with a couple if the girls. One in particular is giving me some hesitation as the back and forth has been forced at best. My emails are replied to with very short, unemotional messages. While she is beautiful it concerns me that the actual experience will be the same.  

So my question is do the guys put much into that part of the process or do you chalk it up to the business? Same for the ladies on here. Do you make an effort to have a connection with the guys during the emails or are you busy and don't have time.  

Thanks in advance.

Everyone is different but here is my take on pre meeting conversations.  
Once you are screened and a date is committed then I am happy to entertain a couple of emails to get to know you a little before the date. Mostly I want you to tell me any special requests, role play scenarios, or clothing requests. A little personal history is always nice. I would not entertain "get to know you" emails before a date is set. There is enough information about me available on my site and reviews for you to make your decision.  
My replies are not long drawn out letters. Yes, I am busy, but that is not the only reason to hold back. I have found that if I allow you to become a penpal first then most likely you are going to cancel. There are so many time wasters that just want to exchange letters. We have plenty of time to get to know each other during our date. Let's save some mystery until then. Part of my process on deciding how much time to invest in you before the date also has to do with how active of a hobbyist you are. I see you have 3 reviews under your belt. One per year at that. Unless you came to me with a bunch of credible current references I probably would not want to invest a significant amount of time exchanging emails. For all I know you are a window shopper.  
All that being said most of the time we are answering emails from our phone and you are not going to get much love when I have to deal with that little keyboard. I don't think this has any reflection on the actual encounter. I am sure that there are more than a few guys out there that can attest to the fact that they didn't get all the attention they desired before the date but I certainly made up for it when we actually met.
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Heather

Thanks, Heather.  

Your comments have a lot of truth and reason in them. They make sense.  

While I am not asking for a 10 paragraph love letter expressing a deep desire to meet me etc. I was hoping for more than one liners and yes, no replies. And I will admit my lack of experience in the hobby could lead to a lack of understanding. And as for the limited reviews, I do not get out of town often and when I do I don't want to spend my money on anyone. I am looking for an experience not just sex, but that is just me. I can have sex just about any day, but I'm looking for a bit kore than that. So I suppose that is why I hesitate and want to make sure the experience will be just that an experience.  

Thanks again for your reply and I'll try and temper my expectations for this part of the hobby.

Heather is an experience. You will get her undivided attention and genuine interest.

That initial connection is very important to me

Posted By: gwd1980
So I am planning my trip to Vegas which will hopefully include a little fun one evening or two. Because Vegas has soooooo many really beautiful women I'm trying to narrow it down. One thing that's been bugging me for a week or two is an email conversation I've had with a couple if the girls. One in particular is giving me some hesitation as the back and forth has been forced at best. My emails are replied to with very short, unemotional messages. While she is beautiful it concerns me that the actual experience will be the same.  
   
 So my question is do the guys put much into that part of the process or do you chalk it up to the business? Same for the ladies on here. Do you make an effort to have a connection with the guys during the emails or are you busy and don't have time.  
   
 Thanks in advance.

as a huge indicator of the type of time I will have with her.

When I ask a provider if she will see me, the ones that respond with an exuberant "Yes!!" followed by a line or two of genuine interest or questions will always get my business before a one or two word forced response. It's sales, after all. I don't expect a pen-pal type of continual exchange, but that first email reply speaks volumes, even if subsequent emails are shorter (in prep for our visit together).

A while back I posted on how I, a very rare hobbyist, had narrowed my choice of a thrice-in-a-lifetime experience in Vegas to two women.  Many asked how I could eliminate so many and narrow it down. Your topic was a big part of it. There were several providers who chose not to respond to my initial email asking some very GENERAL questions without first me filling out their online form. So bingo, they were eliminated. A few were nice enough to answer my questions and two were particularly nice about it and seemed enthusiastic about my wanting role play, request for specific dress and a few other things. So that is how I found my perfect one.  :)  

To me. what separates seeing a well reviewed provider and getting a street walker is class and getting what you really want, which is a lot more and different than slam bam thank you ma'am, which holds no interest for me. (as well as safer and the relatively safe assumption you are not contributing to human trafficking, a heinous crime against humanity)  And since this is so rare for me, I am not chancing the provider, even a well-reviewed one, will scratch my particular itch so questions must be answered first.  

All that being said, I understand why some providers want the form filled out first. But that absolutely would not work for me as I was not interested in having my name and place of employment sent out to 10-13 different providers as I shopped.  

I think Heather's answer also was a good one.  

 

 
   
 Thanks in advance.

I find building a repore is important and it actually gives you both an idea of the others personality beforehand. I think it gives a heightened excitement prior to a date. That's just me though.

Thanks, everyone, for your advice on this subject. Perhaps my concerns are valid. I've gotta lot of thinking to do over the next week.

My experience makes me believe that Heather is dead-on here.  In three years of hobbying, I have given three 10,10 ratings, and all three were lousy to substandard at the pre-meeting convo.  One was a "yes-no lady", one wrote a single really nice paragraph pre-screening and then turned me over to her assistant until I knocked on her hotel room door, and the third was a WONDERFUL BCD experience that I nearly gave up on because of pre-meeting communication.  

Two of my really poor hobby experiences were with women with great sales skills -- good pre-meet communications and not good BCD experiences.  So you simply can't tell.

The vast majority of my dates, however, can't be easily categorized.  Some good communication and good dates, and vice-versa and all combinations.  I would encourage you to not put too much stock in this.  Heather was right -- most of the women I have met are busy with providing and running real lives.  They can't afford the time to be pen pals.  Read reviews for specifics that you are interested in, and check the quality of the reviewers.

Remember that backchannel is your friend.  Drop quick notes to the last 5 reviewers of the gals you want to meet, explaining what your are looking for and see what the other guys say.  I've only been messed up one time when I backchanneled, and I blame that one on myself.

Good luck in Vegas -- great variety to choose from.

Of course they are valid.

That being said - you just have to take opinions and ways of why things may be done by others input here and see how of can relate to it.

Some of us go to school, some of us have families, some of us are very active in other interests and some of us do nothing outside of escort.

I try to set aside an hour a day to reply to emails. I put them in a certain order.. Ones where a date is coming up get priority. Then ones of interest. Then ones of, "when are you coming to." Then "Hey, what's up?"

If I have time to reply to all of them, I will.  

Some days I am more eager to send emails. Some days I am more itching to relax by the pool.

What I wouldn't do is think so hard about it. No one knows what the reasons are. Even if you asked the provider in question.. Who knows if it's the truth. Just so long as you are happy with your decision - go from there.

I love to travel and I always do research prior. One time I was going to what I thought would be the best beach vacation ever. It rained 3 out of 4 days. Oh well, I just spray tanned when I got home. Lol. I don't hate that beach or Mother Nature.. Sometimes life just is what it is. Overthinking can kill a good time. :)

gwd1980. I agree. And I share your version of both the frequency of the 'hobby' and the desire to make it more than about the sex. GND and GFE are all about the other stuff ..and the actual sex is almost secondary.  

I like the flirty part of it. I wish they HAD the time AND the inclination to give us the flirty GFE that leads up to it. I get why they don't. And I respect anyone's decision, or style, that keeps it short and sweet. But if only they knew.  

Good luck mate

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Just how many emails providers get it might boggle your mind. Over the years I've gotten to know some providers and the stories I've heard about not only the amount of emails but the b/s that guys demand  is simply amazing. I for one keep the pre date emails to a minimum.  
 

Posted By: MrTwister
gwd1980. I agree. And I share your version of both the frequency of the 'hobby' and the desire to make it more than about the sex. GND and GFE are all about the other stuff ..and the actual sex is almost secondary.  
   
 I like the flirty part of it. I wish they HAD the time AND the inclination to give us the flirty GFE that leads up to it. I get why they don't. And I respect anyone's decision, or style, that keeps it short and sweet. But if only they knew.  
   
 Good luck mate.  
   
   
   
   
   
 

Yep, some guys are 'demanding". I am sure. I'm not one them...but I can see from these boards there's zebras of every stripe that do this and some expect more than is reasonable.

But...let's not forget, providers who advertise on TER, have websites..they're marketing. They are ASKING for the traffic. And then when they get it, it's a hassle? I'm looking to spend $500-$1,000 on your services and you can't respond to my inquiry? With SOME degree of enthusiasm ? Can you imagine ANY successful business operating like this? You reach out to a travel agent about taking a trip and you have questions. ...you're expecting to spend lots of money booking a trip..and their responses are curt? Would you feel great about taking your business there?  It's no different. It's not hard to see where the OP is coming from...from this side of the fence. You want a GREAT experience. From start to finish.That first contact, or the first couple..sets the tone. It's true of any business transaction...or pre-sale.  

I think the really successful women in this business go out of their way to meet expectations, even if it's 'work'. They get it. And I also think , to some extent, the successful like it. They go hand in hand It's like any job in life.  

Let's be clear...I'm not saying every email should be responded to...or every decent prospect should be engaged in lengthy emails.....just that once you have worked a prospect to the point where you know they are a good prospect, then you should add the little extra touches to get the sale, make the client happy, and make the experience "VIP". It's good for business.  

 


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gals answer their emails on the phone so it might read more like a text as far as length

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