Thanks for all of the good advice. The non-GFE providers I see have told me that they charge less because they are not willing to take the risks that come along with doing some of the activities that are required with being a GFE provider and so I thought I would come here and find out what GFE providers thought. I think I will stay with the non-GFE providers.
As a GFE provider, would you lower your fees if a client wanted to see you but he or she wanted a non-GFE as far as services provided?
There are some providers out there who explicitly offer both GFE and non-GFE rates. It's not much of a difference, maybe 100.
The donation is for her time, so it's never a good idea to bring up that you are looking for non-GFE (and expecting a lesser donation).
...GFE and non-GFE rates (I prefer the terms FS and non-FS), the difference can be more than $100. I know one local provider whose FS rate is nearly double her non-FS rate, and the only difference is PV sex.
Good advice on not expecting a lesser donation for non-FS if the provider doesn't have published rates for it.
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Think about what you just said. Why would there be a difference in what she charges if it was only about the time she spends with you. Most ladies have menus and the more they do the more they charge in most but not in all situations.
If a provider only has one rate stated on her site/ad, it's not a good idea to ask/bargain for a lesser donation just because you aren't interested in whatever you consider to be GFE/non-GFE (everyone has a different idea of GFE, but it's generally BBBJ, kissing with tongue, and DATY, or at least that's what I consider it to be).
I was speaking of a select few who offer GFE/non-GFE. There are also providers who offer massage and will state it on their site/ad if it's a separate donation.
Overall, you won't get very far or have much luck with trying to bargain for a lesser donation with a lady, unless she's desperate and doesn't screen.
More like get blocked lol.
donation for time is more of a legal technicality, and it's not very realistic
I sell my company, no services.
So to answer your question no.
It appears that most ladies fees are based on the types of services they offer and not just time. The Hershey highway rates are more than non-Hershey Highway rates and it appears to me that the ladies who do not engage in GFE usually charge less. I am just telling you my experiences. You can look it up.
Maybe they are charging for the prep time and not merely the time you spend with them.
In any case, it's their business and the general rule we all go by here is just don't negotiate -- don't like the number move on. Now, some here differ and you might have success if you're really good at communications and negotiation and have very good people skills. If not you'll probably get a reputation as a PITA and not have much luck with the better providers.
you sell services
GFE means different things to different people, one person classifies a GFE based on your chemistry together. The chemistry is a combination of attitude, service, and location. Another definition of GFE is when the girl behaves like a “real” girlfriend or like the girlfriend you would dream of having. There is, however brief, some emotional intimacy. My expression of Girlfriend Experience is her being in the present moment with my client, Being tender and loving like you are when you first get together, without judgment, without commitment, exploring together…
and no worries... I wont meet you.
What's wrong baby? Are you upset about something? It's just a discussion. You are making it too personal.
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and secondly, if I were a hooker, I wouldn't see him either. Nor would I put a lot of stock in his advice here.
As for GFE, I have to partially agree with her and partially disagree. GFE is more than "menu items" but that said I can't imagine a woman who didn't not offer BBBJ and DFK ever being considered GFE. Everything else about GFE is attitude however, Greek is not really very important to me and I consider that more of a prerequisite to PSE than GFE.
Def not. A provider is paid for their time. For example, if your rate is $400 per hour, the client can pay you $400 to bungee jump, take a nap, go on a date- whatever they choose to do within that hour. I would not lower the rate because of something specific they want to do.
Many, Many providers have a hour rate but an adder for additional services such as Greek.
Not trying to pick a fight, just saying.
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I would charge more, if I was willing to do.
I am not sure what you are asking as far as non-GFE. No Kissing? No Daty? Just straight screwing? Greek? That's PSE in my book.
My time is never lower if you don't want all of the offerings. I think some ladies are the same. I am still seeing you for the same amount of time and you are taking up someone else's time who wants a GFE at her rate.
I am sure a few will do it, but I have no want to do anything but GFE and if you are still using the whole time, what would we be doing? Screwing the whole time ie PSE. More work, less fun for what I like.
I doubt that most would be up for it. Here's why:
I have to drive travel to see you. I generally plan to arrive at least 1-2 hours early, and 3 if it's in NYC (I do that because traffic is very bad in my area, plus I like to stop and relax/regroup/refresh before greeting the client). I will need to find a restroom to freshen up last-minute, park, and find something to eat in the area. I may have to pay for a hotel. And, I have to get ready. So basically, even if your appointment is only 1 hour, I'm still spending an entire day on your date and all of the peripheral things accompanying it.
OK, so some ladies tour, or host regularly. So some of the above won't apply. However, if she's busy enough that she's able to host out of a hotel or apartment, you're potentially taking up a time slot that could be occupied by a client paying the full rate - or, time that she could be using to eat, relax, go food shopping, walk her dog, study, call her kids, whatever. Some providers like to cram their schedules during tours, some like a bit of balance and require some downtime to be at their best (personally, I'm one of the latter).
Even though you feel like you're getting less, a non-GFE appointment isn't any less work, energy, travel, preparation, or time spent for me. So you ARE asking for a discount (even though you feel like you're settling for a lesser service). If you do try to negotiate a discount, make sure you're offering some sort of incentive in return (very regular visits?).
I'd say your only chance is to become a regular client of a provider, initially paying full price... see her a few times. It's probably better if she hosts regularly. Then make your proposition. She may be able to schedule you during time(s) of day/week when she's not very busy. Or maybe, if she's not a regular hosting provider, but occasionally gets a hotel for another client, she can see you on the morning before she checks out. Or later in the evening after the first dude leaves, or something. (I personally wouldn't go for either one of these arrangements, but that's because I'm busy enough, and there are other things I'd prefer to do w/my time than see a client at a cheaper rate. But, as in my subject line, every lady is different.)
Vero true.. VOO-doo... I'm not my this bubble every day and second of my life.
(I personally wouldn't go for either one of these arrangements, but that's because I'm busy enough, and there are other things I'd prefer to do w/my time than see a client at a cheaper rate. But, as in my subject line, every lady is different.)
There is a service offering that is a bundle of attributes. You're not required to indulge in each an everyone one but they are bundled and that's the price.
Next time you buy a car, it's going to come with a factor sound system (assuming here that's what you will buy). Ask the dealer if the price is less if you don't want the sound system and want it removed.
Thanks for all of the good advice. The non-GFE providers I see have told me that they charge less because they are not willing to take the risks that come along with doing some of the activities that are required with being a GFE provider and so I thought I would come here and find out what GFE providers thought. I think I will stay with the non-GFE providers.
I truly don't know how to turn it off. lol. Like am I supposed to just lay there? make him pop then put him out? Not ask him about him and make the session not feel like a paid one? I honestly don't know how I would not be GFE it truly is who I am.
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