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Re: That sting site could well be a scam site....
DaRegularJoe 724 reads
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Posted By: mrfisher
There are these sites run by the anti-sex crowd to snowball guys into not calling galls numbers.  They collect the numbers from ads, and put them on their site and tell people that they are part of a sting.  
   
 Think about it.  If a gal had gotten busted, would she still be using the same number?
Agree that these sites could be a scam and if so, such a shame that these sites are putting providers in such a position. Is it to extort money or is it some moral crusade that these sites have to list as many numbers they can lay their hands on?

Disagree that if a gal gets busted then she'd change numbers if she is working with LE.

This hobby is giving me a headache now (both heads ache) :-)

DaRegularJoe2392 reads

Hello,

Had been looking at a visiting provider (with nearly 200 reviews), provider is on P411 as well, Exchanged PMs on P411 as well.

After coming to know of sites where you enter phone number for stings, I was surprised to see both her numbers pop up. Didn't think to go to - b$$$escorts . com and e$$$stings . com for a P411 listed and highly reviewed TER provider.

Guess, one has to be careful even with highly reviewed providers as well.

Do providers take the same precaution even when meeting regular clients?

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mrfisher788 reads

There are these sites run by the anti-sex crowd to snowball guys into not calling galls numbers.  They collect the numbers from ads, and put them on their site and tell people that they are part of a sting.

Think about it.  If a gal had gotten busted, would she still be using the same number?

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DaRegularJoe725 reads

Posted By: mrfisher
There are these sites run by the anti-sex crowd to snowball guys into not calling galls numbers.  They collect the numbers from ads, and put them on their site and tell people that they are part of a sting.  
   
 Think about it.  If a gal had gotten busted, would she still be using the same number?
Agree that these sites could be a scam and if so, such a shame that these sites are putting providers in such a position. Is it to extort money or is it some moral crusade that these sites have to list as many numbers they can lay their hands on?

Disagree that if a gal gets busted then she'd change numbers if she is working with LE.

This hobby is giving me a headache now (both heads ache) :-)

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triage683 reads

they simply copy the info from other sites

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AlexandraMilw538 reads

Fake sites that try messing with the Hobby. If she was LE, TER and P411 would have banned her acct.

Posted By: triage
they simply copy the info from other sites

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triage516 reads

I don't see how they can mess with anything because they are so blatantly fake. I'm surprised anyone takes them seriously

Posted By: AlexandraMilw
Fake sites that try messing with the Hobby. If she was LE, TER and P411 would have banned her acct.
Posted By: triage
they simply copy the info from other sites  
   
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perfectstorm674 reads

They are 100% bullshit. Your last 3 posts on this board almost seem like an ad for those bullshit scam sites! Those sites just pull info from the ladies sds on the internet and post them. Many many legit ladies have their info on those sites. The bust sites are just advertising for their "aff" type adult dating sites. Did you not notice all the links to "Don't take a chance on getting busted! Click here to date real girls..."?

They are promoting their own site, and blackmailing ladies to have their info pulled from the sites.

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jaydalee515 reads

If she posted an ad more than likely on BP with a phone# these sites will take her number and add her to these stings sites.
They are not legit sites.If she is reputable,reviewed,on P411 you are fine.
Have fun!

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TurbayVeronica507 reads

usually the ladies that used to post ads on certain site that has been banned... post their phone numbers. This type of sites take the information from those ads, post them on their sites and then charge the ladies to be taken down.  
Scam! shame on them!

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DaRegularJoe459 reads

Thank you all for clarifying this.

As I did, I'm sure other newbies might do Google Search and come to these sites and get side-tracked and stressed out as I'd been.

I had no idea if those sites were real and that is a reason why I didn't post the number and details of the provider whose number I'd checked.

And such a shame that these sites do this to providers, had no idea that providers who not only have hobbyists and LE to deal with, also have to deal with such sites.

But a great learning experience, everyday :-)

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LadyCazzKaria434 reads

Posted By: DaRegularJoe
Hello,  
   
 Had been looking at a visiting provider (with nearly 200 reviews), provider is on P411 as well, Exchanged PMs on P411 as well.  
   
 After coming to know of sites where you enter phone number for stings, I was surprised to see both her numbers pop up. Didn't think to go to - b$$$escorts . com and e$$$stings . com for a P411 listed and highly reviewed TER provider.  
   
 Guess, one has to be careful even with highly reviewed providers as well.  
   
 Do providers take the same precaution even when meeting regular clients?
Regulars are always in a different category for me than newbies. Usually, when the above happens, it's not the provider/client, it is LE impersonating them (look this up, it's the real deal):

Profiles on p411 get cloned or providers get flipped and allow their accounts to be taken over. Unfortunately, it's been happening for a while. That's why it's better, regardless of who it is, reviews time in the game, etc to always always always, be careful of your words.

I also suggest before words are exchanged, ask if it's cool to whip it out at the meet, personally, the minute the door is closed on my sessions, I either go for a feel up&down or tell them to strip. But that's part of my modus operandi anyways.

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xyz23589 reads

If you're doing this to assure yourself the client isn't LE it won't do any good. LE can let you grope him in order to carry out the deciet. He can get naked. He can lie or whatever to carry out the sting.  

We always tell newbies the LE check is useless and doesn't protect anyone regardless of what they may have heard or possibly even read in a review.

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LadyCazzKaria451 reads

Maybe it's a regional thing? Or laws changed?
Then again, I worked in another state, went legit 4 years, and got back in the game 8 months ago, so my experiences may be different, but-
The ONLY time I ever had a problem, 6 yrs ago, the client wouldn't strip. I left, got detained outside, went silent, (If you actually SAY NOTHING they will get pissed, but there is literally nothing to use against you.)
Released after a day in holding, charges dropped. This was in Cali, maybe laws were different then, maybe I got lucky- but this is something I stick by, regardless where.
Session starts w/no biz talk whatsoever, and it begins w/the guy stripping. (Also, it sets the tone for objectification)

Between that, screening, and my instincts, I feel it keeps me safe. But yes, LE can & will lie.

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LadyCazzKaria521 reads

Wow, fuck, I did some research, and technically you are right, though most LE prefer not to, as it puts their safety at risk.
   A tactic more commonly employed on the East coast for some reason, also, apparently in Michigan undercovers are actually going full session then proceeding w/arrest after? And it has been ruled as legal. Damn.

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GaGambler425 reads

xyz is one of those vets who most definitely knows what he is talking about.

All "LE checks" are nothing more than urban legends and are completely worthless in keeping you out of jail, as is advertising "I am not a hooker, you are paying for time and companionship" or having your johns put your fee in a "plain white envelope, marked "gift""  None of these silly little dodges will do a thing to keep you safe. What will keep you safe is making sure you never end up in the same room at the same time with LE in the first place.

I know we all want to offer our opinions, and we all want to "help" but PLEASE, until you know for sure that you are not giving bad advice, it might be best to let the veterans answer the questions rather than taking the chance that some newbie might trust your advice and wind up in jail or worse.

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