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I think you are confusing clock free dates with OTC time.  

There really isn't much of a difference between a clock free date and an extended 8, 10 whatever hour date.. I personally choose to say that if someone is interested in an extended date to please give me a brief itin and we will figure out an appropriate amount. If it works for him, awesome. If not, he can look elsewhere.  

Sure there are ladies that will take an extended date and abuse it, that's why with anything.. Be it from bbbj skills to if the lady is on time, you do your research first.  

I think extended dates are more frequent in certain cities.. Especially Vegas where men come for conventions solo and there is just so much to do.. Ladies do not just say, "Sure my two hour private time is xxx but let's have dinner and see absinthe OTC." They say, "My clock-free or my 8 hour extended rate is xxx." I personally think it's pretty synonymous

I’ve seen this on several web sites.  Usually it is followed by time limit (ex. 6 hours),  I’ve always interpreted that as an 6 hour date.

Recently I came across this on a web site, it’s a slightly different definition….

 
“Clock free (includes 3 hours private time) $x,xxx

Enjoy a day or evening out on the town, at a special event, or social outing then spend 3 hours …………….”

 
This sounds perfect for the dates I like, dancing, shows, Fremont Street and concerts. The biggest problem I have with the long dates is the down time.  It’s the cab rides, the waiting for the cab ride, showing up an hour early before the show, waiting at the restaurant, traffic jams, all taking place within the X hours of date time.  The result is this “over planning” of time, it essentially turns “me” into a clock-watcher.  I’m always concerned that I’ll run of time before I get to the main event.  It makes it difficult to have a relaxing date.

This system described above seems a lot better.  There is a defined amount of personal time, plus a flexible amount of social time.  That way you can agree to a set of evening activities to take part in and you don’t have to rush to meet the pre-determined “outside” time deadline.

I was wondering what board participants here felt about this system

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There would be a lot of interest in this imo. Even a not to exceed X amount of hours of social time would be fine.  

Posted By: Ishootcraps
I’ve seen this on several web sites.  Usually it is followed by time limit (ex. 6 hours),  I’ve always interpreted that as an 6 hour date.  
   
 Recently I came across this on a web site, it’s a slightly different definition….  
   
   
 “Clock free (includes 3 hours private time) $x,xxx  
   
 Enjoy a day or evening out on the town, at a special event, or social outing then spend 3 hours …………….”  
   
   
 This sounds perfect for the dates I like, dancing, shows, Fremont Street and concerts. The biggest problem I have with the long dates is the down time.  It’s the cab rides, the waiting for the cab ride, showing up an hour early before the show, waiting at the restaurant, traffic jams, all taking place within the X hours of date time.  The result is this “over planning” of time, it essentially turns “me” into a clock-watcher.  I’m always concerned that I’ll run of time before I get to the main event.  It makes it difficult to have a relaxing date.  
   
 This system described above seems a lot better.  There is a defined amount of personal time, plus a flexible amount of social time.  That way you can agree to a set of evening activities to take part in and you don’t have to rush to meet the pre-determined “outside” time deadline.  
   
 I was wondering what board participants here felt about this system?  
 

For the gents who have no problem going out in public there is so much to do here in vegas from checking out shows,restaurants,driving exotic cars,etc.There are guys who come to town and they want to enjoy the sights of vegas and they are here alone what a better way than a clock-free date?
I just did a clock-free date recently and I like the feel of not having to worry at all about the clock or traffic etc.We did a spa date,quick lunch,drinks,a show,and dinner and of course private time:)

How my clock-free dates are they usually do not exceed 12hrs and a minimum of 5-6 hrs public time.
Anything over 8hrs-12hrs falls under my clock-free package.
Sometimes depending on the plans made for the day/evening more time might be spent out in public or less time in public.
Start in the day time and it goes into the evening.Or start in the evening and go to the very early morning the next day.

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If your referring only to Vegas , yes the logistics can certainly eat up some of the allotted time . I would think a reputable lady would help manage and understand these detractors and insure you had your fun time . Lol plan wisely !!!

I really like the concept. It would be much preferred over paying for sleep time or to be having fun with a lady, but have to clock watch. I do think if I were a lady I would be concerned about the concept. Some guys may take advantage of the hours out vs. in room etc. Since the lady does not always know you, I am not sure trust could be an issue. Some ladies may just want to keep it simple hour of time equals an hour paid. I know when I was in LV I did the 12 hours to keep from clock watching, but it is not something I would usually do with someone I do not know in most cities.

I do offer a "clock free" which is an extended engagement without sleeping together/an overnight (unless, of course, my patron wants to spend a bit of time snuggling and sleeping!  I'm great at spooning!)

As others have mentioned, we reputable providers will only watch the clock to ensure ample private time behind closed doors.  Many of us are very generous with our time, we enjoy mutually satisfying experiences together and forging solid relationships with our clients.  

Cheers, everyone!

What is the difference between a "clock-free" date and an overnight or day time date?  How are they "clock free" when they still have a 6, 8 or 12 hour cap or whatever a provider decides?  I thought our 6 hour, 8 hour, 12 hour, 24 hour, multi-day etc dates were so no one would have to worry about the confinements of a ticking clock already....

Every clock-free option I've seen still has a time allotted to it so..? I'm a people-pleaser so I'm not asking this to ruffle feathers, I want to know if there's a better way to clarify this on my site... I discount significantly to provide incentive for a longer engagement and to help offset ticket and dinner prices, and especially as a thank you for someone choosing to spend so much time with me.  They're reduced dramatically to allow for the social time already.  My standard one hour gfe is 400 so 400 X 12hours = 4800.  I discount 1800 from that package (3000 for up to 12 hours gfe, any starting hour) to allow for the social/idle time already and I see a lot of ladies doing the same and have been for years.  

I know some ladies offer a strictly social time only rate -- no hanky panky at all ;-).  That also makes sense to me from their point of view but this clock-free thing is still a conundrum for me. How is it clock free and how is it different than a standard multi-hour discounted dates exactly?  

Kisses and spanks,  
Tawny

While the concept sounds good, I tend to agree with Tawny. The more hours you book, most ladies do provide a discount.
There are some ladies that tend not to not discount their rates, so maybe an issue there.
Maybe I have been lucky but I believe it rather reflects on the ladies I saw, but not once did they watch the clock during our date and I felt I received their full attention during the public and private time.

Allow me to simply clear up your confusion.

*clock free* dates = PUBLIC dates.....lunch/dinner/movies/golf/ etc.....BEFORE you/he retreat BCD for your, 2/3/4/6/8hrs/ or over night dates.  

NOT offering off the clock dates= HIM using his BCD booked time...as part of the public outing. Sure ya'll can TRY to cram an public outing IN from his *BCD time*...but then that would leave him with little time left to TRULY enjoy the lady BCD.  (this concept is for those gals who truly don't want to enjoy him BCD and want to waste HIS time away, with little effort of pleasure on her part)  Yep, I said it!

Then...
There are *some* ladies who won't offer *clock free dates* but charge something like an EXTRA 100.00 to go to dinner etc... As well as charge the donation for their booked BCD date.
(I disagree with this concept)..but hey, to each their own.

 
So now I hope I've cleared up your confusion.
 

Posted By: PinkTawnyBrie
What is the difference between a "clock-free" date and an overnight or day time date?  How are they "clock free" when they still have a 6, 8 or 12 hour cap or whatever a provider decides?  I thought our 6 hour, 8 hour, 12 hour, 24 hour, multi-day etc dates were so no one would have to worry about the confinements of a ticking clock already....  
   
 Every clock-free option I've seen still has a time allotted to it so..? I'm a people-pleaser so I'm not asking this to ruffle feathers, I want to know if there's a better way to clarify this on my site... I discount significantly to provide incentive for a longer engagement and to help offset ticket and dinner prices, and especially as a thank you for someone choosing to spend so much time with me.  They're reduced dramatically to allow for the social time already.  My standard one hour gfe is 400 so 400 X 12hours = 4800.  I discount 1800 from that package (3000 for up to 12 hours gfe, any starting hour) to allow for the social/idle time already and I see a lot of ladies doing the same and have been for years.  
   
 I know some ladies offer a strictly social time only rate -- no hanky panky at all ;-).  That also makes sense to me from their point of view but this clock-free thing is still a conundrum for me. How is it clock free and how is it different than a standard multi-hour discounted dates exactly?  
   
 Kisses and spanks,  
 Tawny

I think you are confusing clock free dates with OTC time.  

There really isn't much of a difference between a clock free date and an extended 8, 10 whatever hour date.. I personally choose to say that if someone is interested in an extended date to please give me a brief itin and we will figure out an appropriate amount. If it works for him, awesome. If not, he can look elsewhere.  

Sure there are ladies that will take an extended date and abuse it, that's why with anything.. Be it from bbbj skills to if the lady is on time, you do your research first.  

I think extended dates are more frequent in certain cities.. Especially Vegas where men come for conventions solo and there is just so much to do.. Ladies do not just say, "Sure my two hour private time is xxx but let's have dinner and see absinthe OTC." They say, "My clock-free or my 8 hour extended rate is xxx." I personally think it's pretty synonymous

I know of ladies who offer *clock free dates up to 1 hour (hmmm?) if they book two hour dates.To me, 1 hour dinner/ lunch etc public outing simply is rushing it. Barely have time to eat, and carry on a wonderful conversation over wine etc.

 
I, however have various date options. And since I tend to see gentlemen who prefer and enjoy multi hour BCD dates. I offer *NON rushed/ NO time stamped, off the clock public dates  when one books a 2 hour or longer BCD date (OF HIS choosing).  This allows me to enjoy getting to know him, enjoy HIM for him..before taking him back and undressing the pleasure of him.

 

 

 

 

Posted By: Ishootcraps
I’ve seen this on several web sites.  Usually it is followed by time limit (ex. 6 hours),  I’ve always interpreted that as an 6 hour date.  
   
 Recently I came across this on a web site, it’s a slightly different definition….  
   
   
 “Clock free (includes 3 hours private time) $x,xxx  
   
 Enjoy a day or evening out on the town, at a special event, or social outing then spend 3 hours …………….”  
   
   
 This sounds perfect for the dates I like, dancing, shows, Fremont Street and concerts. The biggest problem I have with the long dates is the down time.  It’s the cab rides, the waiting for the cab ride, showing up an hour early before the show, waiting at the restaurant, traffic jams, all taking place within the X hours of date time.  The result is this “over planning” of time, it essentially turns “me” into a clock-watcher.  I’m always concerned that I’ll run of time before I get to the main event.  It makes it difficult to have a relaxing date.  
   
 This system described above seems a lot better.  There is a defined amount of personal time, plus a flexible amount of social time.  That way you can agree to a set of evening activities to take part in and you don’t have to rush to meet the pre-determined “outside” time deadline.  
   
 I was wondering what board participants here felt about this system?  
 

Let me get this straight. You'll precede 2 hours BCD with lunch, museum, Cubs game, and a parade all for your 2 hour rate? That's impressive.

 

   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Posted By: Ishootcraps
I’ve seen this on several web sites.  Usually it is

Imallin, Thank YOU! Lol that's why I was confused. To me, all my extended dates include a mix of social and private time already which is why they're discounted as the packages increase in hours... To allow for more leisurely lunches and shows or sightseeing.  This in NO WAY means I don't enjoy getting to know my gentlemen callers thoroughly in and out of the bedroom and my percentage of repeat clientele would blow your mind so luckily, I haven't had to reevaluate my donation structure.  

I am a lover of all things MAN :-). And woman for that fact!  And orgies... And toys... Sybians...  oh shoot, I digress lol!  A lot of my multi-day dates started with a 90-minute play date and we worked our way up to longer and longer durations over time. To insinuate that I must not love getting to know my partners or that I'm trying to "put little effort in bcd" because I choose to put a premium on my time doesn't seem quite fair. I appreciate and reciprocate all considerations and I value everyone I see! From choosing to spend time with me amongst the bevy of beauties to choosing to spend their hard earned money on me, believe me, making our experience personal and unforgettable is paramount to me! And to clarify something for you, I am a raging FUCKAHOLIC!! If I hit the lotto right this moment I'd still be doing this because I LOVE IT!  So again, I'm not trying to waste anyone's time by enjoying them socially or leisurely. I have many reviews stating I've stayed well over my time and never glanced at the clock but I don't think that really deserves any kudos either. Most of the top indie providers I know don't work with a ticking time bomb going off in their heads. I'm lost in the experience and turning you on and yes, getting my own orgasm out of it too!! I can't do that if I'm wondering if I have only X amount of minutes left on the clock.

So to reclarify, what I am/was confused about is how exactly is it clock free if there is still a maximum amount of time allotted? MatureProvider, all props to you. Your situation seems different than the other sites I saw when trying to learn about this. I think it's awesome that someone can book you all day and night and only donate for the bcd hour or two that you spend together. That didn't seem like the norm from what I was reading but now that you've explained it, that definitely does sound clock free ;-)

irst I want to thank everybody for you participation, I appreciate your opinions.

Also I want to clarify i was NOT suggesting a price structure that included OTC time above time arranged for BCD, although as a hobbyist I will say that is awfully nice of any provider that wants to do that, but that idea has been floated a few times and I understand that is a rare occurrence and should not be expected with most providers.

This is how I understand this pricing structure would work:

For Example;

Suppose I want to book a show date.  For that you need about six hours; you might also need to eat.  The task for me then becomes to “time” everything so I can get back to my place within four hours.  That in and of it’s self is stressful, because even if everything goes right, you’re always thinking about the time.

Then, suppose it’s a concert that starts late.  Suppose there’s an hour-long cab line. Traffic jam. You know the rest of the drill.

This system, from this one provider, suggests that you can book a “clock free” date.  You can arrange for 2 hours of private time, plus a trip to a Vegas show.  If the show takes three hours, then it’s a five-hour date.  If the show takes four hours, then it’s a six-hour date.  It may be a minor difference, but it takes the edge off.  You don’t have to worry about the clock.  And, if you both agree, you can do something spontaneous.

I know this may SOUND like I’m trying to “take advantage”, (yeah I got one PM that suggested that, I apologize), but I’m I thought it may be a way for girls to get more “dates out” without compromising their business plan, and for hobbyist get a “date out” that is less stressful

I get what your saying. And of course one never knows how traffic may be. if a show is late etc. And if one is on a time stamped date. That can be nerve wracking as he'd/and of course she would be more concerned about the *time*........esp if it's a time stamped date..and it starts first in public, before BCD.

So that's why I personally, prefer to NOT have time stamped public dates. I go to golfing/football games etc with my dates, and I know how lengthy they can be.  
And I we enjoy dining out at nice places such as french rest. with more than one course and all of that takes time.
So there's NO way I would ever want to interrupt our public date time.....so his/mine BCD date...is never part of our public date. Regardless of how LONG OTC in public we are. 1 hour or 6.  That's simply time to enjoy being with him...for who he is.

Once BCD.....then that's where the 2 hours or longer come into play.....and play we will. And even then....time gets away from us and 2 hours tend to turn into longer. That's what chemistry and passion will do to ya.

 
Now mind you, I know of providers whom have balked at all the OTC public time I offer/enjoy with my dates. But hey, I simply don't care. This is my time to enjoy being with a man. It's not my *job* to be with a man, like others make it.

Ladies need to be more clear on what OTC they do/don't offer when a man books a BCD date.
Because there's many men who enjoy companionship with a woman that doesn't entail just BCD pleasure.

 

 

 

Posted By: Ishootcraps
 
 First I want to thank everybody for you participation, I appreciate your opinions.  
   
 Also I want to clarify i was NOT suggesting a price structure that included OTC time above time arranged for BCD, although as a hobbyist I will say that is awfully nice of any provider that wants to do that, but that idea has been floated a few times and I understand that is a rare occurrence and should not be expected with most providers.  
   
 This is how I understand this pricing structure would work:  
   
 For Example;  
   
 Suppose I want to book a show date.  For that you need about six hours; you might also need to eat.  The task for me then becomes to “time” everything so I can get back to my place within four hours.  That in and of it’s self is stressful, because even if everything goes right, you’re always thinking about the time.  
   
 Then, suppose it’s a concert that starts late.  Suppose there’s an hour-long cab line. Traffic jam. You know the rest of the drill.  
   
 This system, from this one provider, suggests that you can book a “clock free” date.  You can arrange for 2 hours of private time, plus a trip to a Vegas show.  If the show takes three hours, then it’s a five-hour date.  If the show takes four hours, then it’s a six-hour date.  It may be a minor difference, but it takes the edge off.  You don’t have to worry about the clock.  And, if you both agree, you can do something spontaneous.  
   
 I know this may SOUND like I’m trying to “take advantage”, (yeah I got one PM that suggested that, I apologize), but I’m I thought it may be a way for girls to get more “dates out” without compromising their business plan, and for hobbyist get a “date out” that is less stressful.  
   
 

This makes perfect sense actually.  I see why a true clock free date would be very appealing because it guarantees your BCD time and leaves you time to enjoy everything else without worry. :)  

Posted By: Ishootcraps
 
 First I want to thank everybody for you participation, I appreciate your opinions.  
   
 Also I want to clarify i was NOT suggesting a price structure that included OTC time above time arranged for BCD, although as a hobbyist I will say that is awfully nice of any provider that wants to do that, but that idea has been floated a few times and I understand that is a rare occurrence and should not be expected with most providers.  
   
 This is how I understand this pricing structure would work:  
   
 For Example;  
   
 Suppose I want to book a show date.  For that you need about six hours; you might also need to eat.  The task for me then becomes to “time” everything so I can get back to my place within four hours.  That in and of it’s self is stressful, because even if everything goes right, you’re always thinking about the time.  
   
 Then, suppose it’s a concert that starts late.  Suppose there’s an hour-long cab line. Traffic jam. You know the rest of the drill.  
   
 This system, from this one provider, suggests that you can book a “clock free” date.  You can arrange for 2 hours of private time, plus a trip to a Vegas show.  If the show takes three hours, then it’s a five-hour date.  If the show takes four hours, then it’s a six-hour date.  It may be a minor difference, but it takes the edge off.  You don’t have to worry about the clock.  And, if you both agree, you can do something spontaneous.  
   
 I know this may SOUND like I’m trying to “take advantage”, (yeah I got one PM that suggested that, I apologize), but I’m I thought it may be a way for girls to get more “dates out” without compromising their business plan, and for hobbyist get a “date out” that is less stressful.  
   
 

Yep!  

No bs'ng about it.  And I've enjoyed countless of these dates over the years, with some wonderful men in this lifestyle.  

Posted By: IMALLIN
Let me get this straight. You'll precede 2 hours BCD with lunch, museum, Cubs game, and a parade all for your 2 hour rate? That's impressive.  
   
   
   
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
Posted By: Ishootcraps
I’ve seen this on several web sites.  Usually it is

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