The whole point of the hobby is that you dont have to date to have sex. as Charlie Sheen put it, he didn't pay them for sex, he paid them to leave afterward.
And the provider may well be "playing you" to get more appointments. The good ones really do make it feel like a girl friend experience. And that makes you -- or at least me -- want to come back for more. If you are convinced she is really into you, read the reviews of her by other people and notice, perhaps, that she does the same things, with the same energy and gusto and passion, with them as she does with you. So my advice would be to keep the lines clear.Well, I know it sounds weird and probably not right. I kinda want to go on a date with my provider after the session. She's cute and beautiful. We had a really great time, I mean REALLY great. After the session she sent me a message said if she could contact me sometime with this number. I said yes. So I think maybe there's chance that I can ask her out as a friend. Then I sent her a text message but I haven't got anything back yet. Did I mess up? Would ladies go on a date with your client? Anyone have tried going out with your provider as friend? (I'm new to this hobby and I have met 3 ladies before but this one is the best. )
I have dated several providers I met as clients. Some of them were very casual dates and I continued to pay for "sessions" but afterwards we'd get dinner, drinks, movies etc. With other providers it has led to "real" relationships that became something serious.
My advice is to leave the ball in her court, you have floated a trial balloon, If she is interested she will contact you. Don't be "that guy" who starts looking more like a stalker than the nice guy she "thought" she might have been interested in.
I totally agree. Thank you for you advice. She is a nice girl. You are right, last thing i want is to be seen as a creepy stalker.
hat I would say is that you should always remember that there is an envelope involved. Yes, some providers are nice and you connect enough to have a drink at a bar or even grab a bite but never think it is a real relationship. Sometimes you click and there is a little bit of off the clock socialization but never take it too seriously. A drink at the bar is cool but just leave it there
Just because you have never had a "real" relationship with a provider doesn't mean it never happens. I have had several "real" relationships with providers, so yes it does happen. Does it happen often? of course not, and please keep in mind I have been with literally thousands of providers. I doubt I have had a "real" relationship with more than one out of about every 2-300 providers I have seen, so even in my case the percentages are quite low. My batting average of becoming "friends" with a provider where we aren't real BF/GF but sometimes share some social time is a lot higher at maybe one in fifty, but the odds are still long.
My suggestion for the OP if he is absolutely dying to know if she is interested is to simply book another session and wait to see if there is a segue in which to broach the subject again, but PLEASE remember "no means no" and if you push it when there is no interest on her side you most definitely risk getting put on her DNS list.
I respect your experience but let us just look at things realistically. In this game, the women are impressed with you because you are showing financial strength first. In the real world there is plenty of guessing for the woman. My point is that if the woman knows that financial gain is certain and you can follow it with good sex, then she will like you. However, the relationship is more of a "business friendship". She knows that you have the finances to do this with just about anyone else so it is not likely she will fall for you. What she is falling for is a nice guy with money who she enjoys having sex with. In this game nice guys finish first. I have my share of providers who legitimately like me because I am very nice to every provider I deal with and that often surprises them. Some have even been comfortable enough to give me their real names. However, I do not get carried away. I always just see myself as a nice guy who they like spending time with.
If this is your first date, then you might have blown it by coming on too strong.
To answer your question, it is possible for a civie relationship to develop out of a client/provider relationship. I did so, and even ended up marrying the gal.
But, it is rare and more fraught with peril than if you just meet a gal at work, or at a bar.
There are also situations where, once you know a gal well, she might want to spend OTC time with you after a session and go to dinner or even hang out. But these are not really civie relationships, just good customer relations for the most part.
The whole point of the hobby is that you dont have to date to have sex. as Charlie Sheen put it, he didn't pay them for sex, he paid them to leave afterward.
And the provider may well be "playing you" to get more appointments. The good ones really do make it feel like a girl friend experience. And that makes you -- or at least me -- want to come back for more.
If you are convinced she is really into you, read the reviews of her by other people and notice, perhaps, that she does the same things, with the same energy and gusto and passion, with them as she does with you.
So my advice would be to keep the lines clear.
But I would and have done various activities with providers, just as friends. I got meditation lessons from one, and in exchange gave her massages (therapeutic deep tissue type). I've had coffee, breakfast, or lunch. I've helped them out when they needed a helping hand (or back), and they've helped me in various ways.
Your post is a bit confusing. You talk about "dates" but also say you hope there's a chance you can ask her out as a friend. What's your intention here? To be a friend, or something more? I suspect you want to be more than a friend to this woman. Which is fine... but be clear about your intentions.
not to become emotionally involved. Also, you could be headed for a fall if you've mis-read her seeming enthusiasm as genuine. It's much more likely part of GFE. That said, I'd see her again and possibly ask after that.
You said you sent a text, but you were vague. A lot depends on what was in that text.
I have had plenty of experience with 'extracurriculars', but here's the most important factor: I initiated it. Anyone that has ever received anything extra from me -time or sex- has never demanded or even suggested I should give it. And by initiate, I mean I offered something concrete. No flirty wisps of promissory twaddle. "To be continued...next paid session," should likely be viewed as part of the fantasy.
Letting her know you like her is fine. You just have to remember that saying, "I really like and respect you and would date you in a heart beat" is very different from saying, "I like you and, since you said you enjoy our time together and have so many O's, I have this great idea where we have a lot more of that OTC. Holla!
Whenever I am the one that initiates anything resembling OTC time to avoid overstepping and forcing the lady to either be "polite" to keep a paying customer happy, or even worse, overstep so far that she doesn't care about being polite. I always ask the lady to call me if she has an interest, even when we both know it's my idea. I say something like you just said "I really like you and would date you in heartbeat" but then I add. "I don't want to make things awkward between us, so I will NEVER mention this again, BUT if you are interested, you can call me anytime, but YOU are the one who has to call as this way I know you are truly interested and not just being polite"
If she calls, even just to say hi, I know she is interested. If she doesn't, I keep my word and never bring it up again.
Now there are exceptions, I met a Thai Provider a couple of years ago who was brand new to Dallas, while enjoying our "after glow" before leaving she asked me what my plans were for the rest of the day, I told her I planned on going to the Thai market to buy some seafood (my actual plans) to which she responded "Will you take me? Please Please???!!!" Now how was I supposed to resist? we did end up first becoming "friends" where I would pay for an hour session and then we would go out to dinner or whatever at least once a week and later it even graduated to her not accepting my money for sessions, but I can't say that we ever got to BF/GF status.
It's easy to get caught up in the GFE fantasy/illusion that good escorts provide, but you've always got to remember that when the clock strikes midnight, it's (almost always) pumpkin time. You would not be the first client who got caught up in the moment and you certainly wouldn't be the last. She could have been a little caught up in that, too, especially if she is younger or less experienced. Hey, clients and providers are all human. However, the thing to remember is that afterglow shine usually wears off and it can wear off very quickly.
I agree with the others that you've got to tread very carefully here. Most providers and clients have either a firm rule or at least a strong guideline against crossing the P4P line into a real dating relationship. Those rules are in place for damn good reasons. It's one thing to see the Wizard in an upscale hotel room with champagne, candlelight, and sexy mood music. Bring on the fireballs and wrath of God type passion. It's another thing to see the crazy old fucker behind the green curtain. Time to either laugh or cry or maybe both. Generally, you just don't want to see behind the green curtain. Fantasy is sexy, alluring, and whisks you away from your troubles. But reality is often a bit of a dumpster fire. And quite frankly, that goes both ways. Providers don't want to see behind my green curtain either - at least not if they knew what's good for them. The only inmates in this asylum that are crazier than the providers are the clients. Realistically, what are the chances that a provider's crazy and a client's crazy match each other just right to make it work or even worth a go? Not zero, but pretty low.
There are exceptions to the general rule, but they are rare. You've got to remember that the odds here are not in favor of you dating her. Not saying it's impossible, but it's far from a lock. For instance, you interpreted her asking if she could contact you as a signal that dating might be in the realm of possibility. But it's also possible that she just wants you as a regular client and sending you a message now and again is part of her way of maintaining good client relationships. Most of the OTC time we get with providers is a bit like frequent flier bonus miles, maybe friendship-like, but usually not real dating. It's not really that different from when I take my clients out to dinner or sporting events. Sure, I like them and enjoy their company, but at heart it's business development and maintaining good client relationships. Incidentally, no client has ever asked me "hey why don't you take me out to dinner or __ event?" That would be a little weird, wouldn't it? Which is why you follow the provider's lead on that stuff. It's bonus - enjoy it but don't expect it.
Another thing is that she asked if she could contact you. You said yes, no problem there. But then you texted her and it wasn't just to book another appointment. Once the afterglow of the session wore off, she could have decided against crossing the P4P line base case. Or your text could have scared her off as a little too eager, regardless of what it said. And of course, the content of the text could have scared her off, too. Who knows? We don't know what the text said, we can't read her mind, and she's probably not going to tell any of us the honest truth even if we asked.
Personally, I think you're best bet is just to give it a little time. If you still want to give it a shot after at least a week or two, then try to book another session with her. If you get another session, just see how it goes. But take it slow, be careful, and don't put her in an awkward spot. Let her bring it up rather than pushing it. If she doesn't bring it up, consider just letting it go. You could hint at it or give her an opening, but if you go that route you have to accept the risk of it coming across as too eager and scaring her off.
If you don't hear from her or she ignores a later request for a session, just let it go. You can't un-ring that bell. Learn from it. Move on to another provider. Feel free to commiserate with other clients, because lots of us have been there, especially in the beginning. But brush it off and keep moving forward.
Good luck! Happy hunting
You said you are new to the hobby and from your message I get the impression that you've only seen this provider once.
If you are a halfway decent client, most providers will want to keep your number, and have you as a regular. This is probably all she meant....asking if she could contact you with something like "Hey, I'm on your side of town again today, would you like to get together?" That isn't an invitation to take her to a movie...it's an invitation to give her more money.
That said...yes, it is possible, if rare, to become friends with a provider. But don't expect or look for that in the hobby....it will most likely lead to you being taken advantage of in a huuge way - I speak from personal experience here 
I've found that with many providers that you hit it off with, they like to stay in touch, as they view you as a potential repeat or regular client. This is a good thing, she may in fact like you, and you should say yes to her request if you are interested in seeing her again. However, I wouldn't take this as meaning she views you differently unless she tells you so. Your best option since you appear to be interested is to say yes, and let things flow from there.
My advice to the OP is to remember the etiquette where it comes to text conversations with hookers, (or anyone for that matter) is to wait for a response from your text before sending another text. If you see a whole bunch of unreturned texts made by you in your "conversation" that should tell you something. I would say you have one "free pass" to make a second attempt after not hearing back, but anything after that starts putting you into "pest" mode.
If she hasn't texted you back, most likely you have your answer. To repeat my earlier advice, if the suspense is killing you, text her for another session. She will almost certainly answer that text and then you can see if you still have that same "chemistry" you had the first time.
This is a very good question, I personally would not date a client I meet through hobying, not that I think it won't work out or anything but just right now I am not looking to get tied out and be in a relationship.
let's say that she does start dating you , I don't think you'll be okay with her keep seeing other people, I don't think. So I feel like relationship just get In the way sometimes.