We really just want to verify that there's a 'real' person behind the name. You're not someone scary and unknown calling himself 'John Smith'... you're a dude who works as a lawyer, you like to garden, and maybe you even volunteer. All of which will make me feel better about seeing you. Besides which, if you mean harm, you're very unlikely to give me all of that info.
A lot of high-profile men have no problem giving info... I have a theory as to why. I guess they figure they have enough $$ and legal power to make the rest of my life VERY hard should I ever try to abuse their trust. Just a guess. Most providers ask you to provide a cover story to use when calling. Like, 'Hi, I'm Jennifer calling from the dentist's office. I need to speak with Chuck Berry to confirm his appointment tomorrow.' When emailing a work account, I usually send a generic ad... the type that ppl get a lot. The gent can reply simply, 'OK,' or even 'Sorry, I have no idea why I got this, but I'm really not even interested in car rental services. Please take my name off of your mailing list.' ** modified to say that when emailing a work account, I use a different email address not associated w/my escort name. I will NOT email a client from '[email protected]'.-- Modified on 7/14/2016 12:19:39 PM
Have seen several threads about providers and screenings. Since I am new to this whole scene this is a newbie take.
1) I assume every provider uses a fake name to protect their "real" identity.
2) Guys want to remain anonymous too. Either to prevent a poor provider with information for blackmail/ripoffs or in case of an LE bust. I remember the hub bub over the Mayflower Madam's book of celebs.
3) Providers need the names for security reasons.
4) Only a dumbass lets an unknown provider outcall to their residence.
5) TER and P411 (haven't joined that yet) hopefully cut down on that but BP is rife with sketch providers.
So I am trying to balance it all out in my head as some of these seem contradictory.
I guess the question is - When providers want employer info what do they do with it? I work with a bunch of gossipy tight asses. Last thing I need is the merest hint of a provider calling.
for verification. If you are not, then you are not.
As Harborview said, you have to decide what you are comfortable giving.
I've seen providers who do no screening at all.
Some providers have wanted me to text them a photo of my driver's license (I won't do that).
I completely understand the need for providers to feel safe. There are some psycho clients out there.
On my side though, I know there are some psycho providers as well, and I don't want them having my address or name.
So basically, I only see providers who are willing to accept the information I give them. If they don't, I move on.
Yes P411 helps all that. Other sites like Hx have ratings systems that help also.
1) I assume every provider uses a fake name to protect their "real" identity.
2) Guys want to remain anonymous too. Either to prevent a poor provider with information for blackmail/ripoffs or in case of an LE bust. I remember the hub bub over the Mayflower Madam's book of celebs.
3) Providers need the names for security reasons.
4) Only a dumbass lets an unknown provider outcall to their residence.
5) TER and P411 (haven't joined that yet) hopefully cut down on that but BP is rife with sketch providers.
So I am trying to balance it all out in my head as some of these seem contradictory.
I guess the question is - When providers want employer info what do they do with it? I work with a bunch of gossipy tight asses. Last thing I need is the merest hint of a provider calling.
1. That is a fair assumption. I'm sure there are some out there who use their real names, but I'm only aware of one.
2. Tying into the previous question, I've heard the argument many times from the gents' side that "she isn't gonna give me her real name, why should I have to give up mine?" The flawed logic therein is that the guys don't have nude/semi-nude photos, public websites/advertising, or sexually explicit reviews of themselves posted on the internet for all to see. So the "mutual disclosure" argument just doesn't hold water.
In a perfect world, we could all be Anonymous Andys/Annies. Some providers are okay with client anonymity, some aren't (personally, I fall into the latter camp). Discretion is a fair expectation, but it doesn't always equal anonymity. I'm not saying that there's never been misuse of clients' personal info, but any savvy provider knows that doing so is not in her best interest. Word gets around (not to mention karma).
3. I can't remember who said it (if you're reading this, chime in! ), but I always thought this was a fantastic way of explaining screening: "I don't care who you are. I care who you're not." Ya feel me?
4. While there are many instances when hosting an outcall to your home would be a "dumbass" move, that's certainly not always the case. If you are in a position to do so with minimal risk, are inviting a well-established lady, and if you find that to be the most prudent scenario, that's not being a dumbass.
5. TER, P411, BP, and all of the other venues out there on the web have their fair share of sketchballs. Keep in mind that BP is just an advertising platform. LE and scam artists have been found everywhere. If you know how to cross-reference things, the "where" is pretty much irrelevant.
6. We all have different ways of verifying employment info, but one of the most common methods goes something like this (after the client and provider have established what's the best thing for her to say):
*ring ring*
"ABC Corp, how may I direct your call?"
"Hello. May I speak with Joe Schmoe in Accounts Receivable?"
"Whom should I say is calling?"
"This is Sally from Dr. Smith's office. I'm calling to confirm an appointment."
"Okay, I'll patch you through."
*soft jazz*
"Joe Schmoe speaking."
"Hi, Mr. Schmoe. Sally from Dr. Smith's office here. I'm calling to confirm your appointment for Tuesday."
"Yes, Tuesday at 4:45, I'll be there." [or some other kind of previously discussed "code" to establish that she's on the phone with the same person with whom she had been emailing].
"Thank you! Buh bye."
Pretty painless.
In any event, hopefully that helps to answer your questions.
Yes, the work "dialogue" is basically what happened to me when I registered with P411....
Gina called my office was directed to me, said hello and that was that.
Hmmm, wonder how that would work with a direct-dial to my desk phone number instead of going through the corporate "switchboard"/receptionist
I have a direct dial number, no switchboard, but my name and number are on the employers website
Yeah it's by no means the only verification method, it just seems to be one of the more widely used ones.
We really just want to verify that there's a 'real' person behind the name. You're not someone scary and unknown calling himself 'John Smith'... you're a dude who works as a lawyer, you like to garden, and maybe you even volunteer. All of which will make me feel better about seeing you. Besides which, if you mean harm, you're very unlikely to give me all of that info.
A lot of high-profile men have no problem giving info... I have a theory as to why. I guess they figure they have enough $$ and legal power to make the rest of my life VERY hard should I ever try to abuse their trust. Just a guess.
Most providers ask you to provide a cover story to use when calling. Like, 'Hi, I'm Jennifer calling from the dentist's office. I need to speak with Chuck Berry to confirm his appointment tomorrow.'
When emailing a work account, I usually send a generic ad... the type that ppl get a lot. The gent can reply simply, 'OK,' or even 'Sorry, I have no idea why I got this, but I'm really not even interested in car rental services. Please take my name off of your mailing list.'
** modified to say that when emailing a work account, I use a different email address not associated w/my escort name. I will NOT email a client from '[email protected]'.
-- Modified on 7/14/2016 12:19:39 PM
Develop a great sixth sense. And go with your gut!
A guy is not a dumbass for inviting a provider over to his house for first time meeting. Guys invite me over for first meetings. ALBEIT he should have done his research on her and know shes legit. Guys need to be screened because there are more men trying to bring harm to women in this industry than vice vera. We need to worry about legal trouble as well as our mental and psychical safety . All you have to worry about thinking with your big head and not seeing trashy pimped out cheap girls. . A classy and smart lady would never risk her reputation or even make bad business when she could be being nice and catching more flies with honey...... But it should go without saying real safe gentleman have ZERO problems being screened and only guys with bad intentions don't like screening!!!! Hello just google craigslist killer, or the infamous green river killer, even I have had a bad personal experience in the beginning of my career.. Unfortunately it is that serious for us, we do need to screen for our lives and you should do nothing but cooperate so we all can feel safe! (I never have to call a guys work, but I would if I needed to feel safe)