Well, I will start by saying that the gents were outed by a visiting provider not local ladies.  The visitor is the one that started the drama others supposedly joined in

Now, on to your question.  If there is a database (other than the ladies forum on the woof woof board that doesn't allow certain info to be posted) I highly doubt that you are going to get ladies to admit it.  Why would they ?  It's like saying, yeah, not only do I keep records but I share them with the entire nation because I think so and so is a schmuck and wrote a bad review.

If the hobbyists never saw the provider then probably one of her "friends" gave her the info.

Why you would give your TER handle in addition to your other info is beyond me That isn't necessary.

Some ladies use TER handles to screen.  They will PM you and then get two references and do not wish to know your work info  etc.

I agree Ben is doing a marvelous job of keeping this in order.  There are alot of reputable ladies that actually give a damn and do not keep all that crap. I use a code word system.  The last thing I need is to get caught with a "black book". It's for my own safety as well that I don't keep that.  Can we say tax evasion ?  Hmmm. let's see Missy...  You claimed XXX on your taxes but according to this handy dandy apt book you really owe us XXXX .  NO THANK YOU.  
Some of us are truly PROFESSIONAL and realize that discretion is KEY.
Don't EVER give out more info than you are comfortable with.  I screen several ways.  If one of them doesn't suit the client then there are many other ladies that will accom. him.  I will simply not see someone who says, "Well, I all want you to know is that my name is Bob." I will quit the business before I jeopardize my safety.  I, too , have a life outside of this and wish to at least "feel" safe.  I know no method is fool proof.  But I am happy with my system and false sense of security if you will.  It hasn't failed me yet Many ladies don't screen at all...yet another option.

Good references work just as well with many ladies.  It may cut out alot of ladies you see but at least you will be able to sleep at night.

Stay safe...it's a shame that so many providers are getting the "Them vs. Us" mentality.  Afterall, it is suppose to be a FUN hobby. Leave the drama at the door.

To my gentlemen friends that were affected by this..please know that some of us still know the way this is suppose to work
Happy hobbying.

seems highly improbable to me.  You'd have to believe that an incredibly large group of notorious freelancers could keep a secret about information not generally available to the public.

No, I'd guess the hobbiest was in denial about how he let the info into their hands.   And my guess is the providers involved aren't bright enough to figure this is a 2 edged sword, a weapon that is going to get out of control as soon as it's used.

Actually I want to say something in defense of the lady that started this.........

This problem goes outside her wrong doing - even though she started it! Some other ladies at the local level were "inspired" by her brash ways and sprung into action when she came to town and sounded the war-cry!
 I know WAY MORE than I'm ever going to say about this, but I think I need to spread the blame around a bit for her sake. She was only the catalyst for a larger problem.......
 (I hope all that "venting" she did was worth it!)



James 3:4-7 (New International Version)

4] Take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his (or her) life on fire, and is itself set ablaze by the fires of hell.
 7] All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by mankind, 8] but none can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.



-- Modified on 9/21/2005 3:49:27 PM

This has been going on for 6 months or more starting with the great "M----.. It wont end til you all end it, start ignoring it and simply dont give out work info..

There are more than enough providers that know work refs mean nothing.. any cop can sit at any company and put together a bust.

Heartfelt sympathy of course to all those in the Twin Cities.. but after the M---- disaster one should learn by now.