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Re:Taxation on counterfeit money?
ThePatriot 2004 reads
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I didn't quote the sections but merely paraphrased and pointed where to look. However; section 9 does state and I quote "No Capitition or other direct tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the Census or Enumeration herinbefore directed to be taken."

 Since the Government owns the courts and writes the paychecks for all the judges just how far do you think anyone would get with a lawsuit that could effectively topple the Income tax ?

  ThePatriot

The subject pretty much says it all.  Estimated Federal and State Taxes are due tomorrow.

-- Modified on 9/15/2005 11:00:47 AM

ThePatriot1965 reads

I'm confused! The tax code states that I am being taxed on dollars earned and that only legal US dollars are accepted as payment for the taxes. I have yet to receive a "legal" US dollar for for my labor and services because they stopped minting Silver Dollars containing 412.5 grains of US Standard Silver or printing Silver certificates redeemable in actual legal Silver Dollars decades ago. If I'm being taxed on legal Dollars earned and there are no legal dollars in circulation isn't this whole process moot?

See US Constitution: Article 1 section 8 & section 10. (I don't believe these laws have been
amended nor any law implemented that supersedes them}

    ThePatriot

I'm sure this has been legislated, but if you feel the need, by all means take the government to court and fight it on constitutional grounds.

Section 8 gives the Federal Government the right to tax the population.  You also quote Section 10, but notice that that particular section of Article I deals with STATES, not the Federal Government.  It's never specified in either artical what Legal Tender shall consist of for the Federal Government.

ThePatriot2005 reads

I didn't quote the sections but merely paraphrased and pointed where to look. However; section 9 does state and I quote "No Capitition or other direct tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the Census or Enumeration herinbefore directed to be taken."

 Since the Government owns the courts and writes the paychecks for all the judges just how far do you think anyone would get with a lawsuit that could effectively topple the Income tax ?

  ThePatriot

I agree with you - a lawsuit would get nowhere, but you were the one implying that what we use to pay it was not constitutional.  If that's the truth, then take it to court.  That's all I was trying to point out.

ode2141 reads

Hey, take note: That Section 9 was changed by the 16th amendment in 1913 to allow for an income tax.

But I'm grateful for this OT discussion. I'd completely forgotten about the due date and must deal with it now.

It doesn't matter what the constitution says about it. Federal Reserve Notes are purely commercial instruments, and the courts are purely statutory venues operating in merchant law. Rely instead on the Uniform Commercial Code. For starters.

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