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I think you nailed the difference between us.
JackDunphy 337 reads
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When I do outcall, I never view the room as "mine", I view it as "ours." I want my guest to feel completely comfortable and be themselves.

And with the gals I see for incall, in my experience, they view it the same way.

Honestly DNG, I don't know a single person in p4p that would call pulling back the covers as "boundary pushing" but that is certainly your right and opinion to do so.

Now if they did all of the things you mention, yes, I can see that as problematic, but just pulling the sheet back...well...we just disagree on that one. Lol

Enjoy your weekend!

finisher1858 reads

I've had a few sessions now and am surprised that they always take place on top of the sheets. I understand, I guess, if there is only one bed in the room and they actually sleep there, that they don't want to have sex between the sheets.  But every room I have visited has had two beds, presumably one for action and one for the escort to sleep in.   How come  nobody goes "under the covers?"  Is this just the quirks of the ones I have seen, or is this the standard

I don't travel much, but the few times that I have, I took some very thin "throws" that had playboy bunnies on them.  I threw these on top of the bed and had extras for warmth if needed.  This is also how I handle it at my in call.  I do have a King Sized bed and it is pushed into the corner, with many pillows lining the walls.  I have several throws available and easily washed if used.  There is no need to start rearranging the bed and crawling between the sheets. Feel free to toss pillows off the bed and if they are in the way once things get started, because I certainly will....LOL    

I did have a gent come to my place once and start wondering around and looking at knick knacks, picking things up and asking questions, messing with the blinds and basically inspecting my place with a fine toothed comb.  Yes, that was unnerving, but I was very casual about it.  I don't go into another's place wearing white gloves and inspecting things I shouldn't as if I had walked into a disease ridden zone or something.  It's obvious upon arrival, where ever one goes, whether the place is tolerable enough not to catch every funky disease known to man.  Therefore, upscale hotels and my place are pretty much my limit.  Not that I'll never travel again, but it's not something I have planned at this time.

I can speak from my experience.. I loooovvveee getting under the sheets!  It hugs us so tight and creates an even better intimacy that I crave..  

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Bring my own linens
It's important to have a fresh clean bed for everyone/anyon

Just be sure you don't do it on the bed spread.  Those things are never washed and are ultra nasty.

When I spring for the room, I strip down to the bottom sheet.  After the main event I draw the top sheet over us to cuddle so we are nice and warm

I remember watching an episode of "Forensic Files" a few years back.  The case involved a woman who was sexually assaulted and murdered in a hotel room.  Her body was discovered on the bed.  Of course one of the things the police investigators tested for was semen so they could hopefully get a DNA match to the killer.  So, they tested the bed spread for semen.  

Turns out they found traces of semen from something like 42 different people on the bed spread.  Yuck!!!  Obviously, that bed spread was worthless as far as evidence goes.  

Oh, and in case you're wondering, they caught and convicted the killer.  It was one of the hotel maintenance men.  If I remember correctly, it had to do with the fact that he cut his hand on her teeth when he punched her in the mouth.

Embassy Suites on the northeastern side of town. I held an incall there once and it was all I could think about.  

Funny thing is, I've watched several Investigation Discovery shows wherein the comforter was useless to investigators for just that reason. Nasty.  

Posted By: InspectorMorse
I remember watching an episode of "Forensic Files" a few years back.  The case involved a woman who was sexually assaulted and murdered in a hotel room.  Her body was discovered on the bed.  Of course one of the things the police investigators tested for was semen so they could hopefully get a DNA match to the killer.  So, they tested the bed spread for semen.    
   
 Turns out they found traces of semen from something like 42 different people on the bed spread.  Yuck!!!  Obviously, that bed spread was worthless as far as evidence goes.    
   
 Oh, and in case you're wondering, they caught and convicted the killer.  It was one of the hotel maintenance men.  If I remember correctly, it had to do with the fact that he cut his hand on her teeth when he punched her in the mouth.  

I usually have the room for 2-3 days and do not let housekeeping in during that time.  

Now this isn't going to sound terribly romantic or spontaneous BUT......   I have a system.  ;-)
Most hotels I frequent have the bed made with a duvet (plain white comforter), which has a loose top sheet tucked over it and another underneath it; then the bottom sheet on the bed beneath all of that.  

First guest: on top of all covers.  

Second guest: remove top sheet from duvet

Third: Fold down duvet; play on top of bottom-layer duvet-casing sheet.

Fourth: Fold last loose sheet down on top of folded duvet, play on base-layer sheet.

 
If I have 5th or 6th dates over a multi-day period without allowing housekeeping in (unusual for me, but it happens!), I remove all the sheets and flip duvet over to the "unused" side and/or get the extra blanket out of the closet/wardrobe/dresser.  

Now isn't that sexxxy?   LMFAO!

Oh and do NOT think about the pillows.  Trust me, you don't wanna go there. ;-)

xoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxxooxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxxoo
Nooner: A sexual encounter during lunch hour; especially one that is illicit.  

 
-- Modified on for grammatical errors.  Need more caffeine today!!!

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You might see sheets pulled back but still be the first guest of that day.  

As stated, providers might not be letting housekeeping in to clean & freshen the bedding.

To further complicate trying to determine such things, sometimes ladies WILL allow housekeeping in during the middle of a multiple-guest day.  You see a freshly-made-up pristine room and think you're her first date, when you might be 3rd or 4th on her dance card for the day.

Or she switches hotels midway through the day.  

There's no exact science to determining these things.  ;-)

I have a system too. It's outcalls to my house so I fuck under the sheets when I want.  

Posted By: DebbieNoonerGirl
I usually have the room for 2-3 days and do not let housekeeping in during that time.    
   
 Now this isn't going to sound terribly romantic or spontaneous BUT......   I have a system.  ;-)  
 Most hotels I frequent have the bed made with a duvet (plain white comforter), which has a loose top sheet tucked over it and another underneath it; then the bottom sheet on the bed beneath all of that.    
   
 First guest: on top of all covers.    
   
 Second guest: remove top sheet from duvet  
   
 Third: Fold down duvet; play on top of bottom-layer duvet-casing sheet.  
   
 Fourth: Fold last loose sheet down on top of folded duvet, play on base-layer sheet.  
   
   
 If I have 5th or 6th dates over a multi-day period without allowing housekeeping in (unusual for me, but it happens!), I remove all the sheets and flip duvet over to the "unused" side and/or get the extra blanket out of the closet/wardrobe/dresser.    
   
 Now isn't that sexxxy?   LMFAO!  
   
 Oh and do NOT think about the pillows.  Trust me, you don't wanna go there. ;-)  
   
 xoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxxooxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxxoo  
 Nooner: A sexual encounter during lunch hour; especially one that is illicit.    
   
   
 -- Modified on for grammatical errors.  Need more caffeine today!!!

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ThePeopleRule448 reads

1) double size beach towel for the top of bed (see below);

2) regular size towel for the pillow on which I have the lady place her bottom so she can enjoy my "tongue exercises"; and,

3) washcloths for the few providers I see who do not provide CIM.

My late Mother taught me to do my own laundry when I was in Sixth Grade.  I am confident that she would be proud of me not leaving dirty laundry behind.

One advantage:  If I contact a provider for an encore, I just say: "I am the beach towel guy".  
They always remember me.

FYI:  About 10-13 years ago Costco and now-defunct Mervyns sold the double size beach towels.  I no longer find them in Costco stores.  Buying online seems to be the only way now to purchase them.

I'd already be creeped out if a dude showed up with a duffel bag, and even more creeped out if he insisted that I put my butt in a certain spot on top of his own towel.  

Maybe I'm weird, but I'd rather just steal extra towels from the hotel gym.

That's what I would do if I wanted to fuck under the covers.

Remember you are the client. You are paying.  

No professional would have an issue with this.

Posted By: JackDunphy

   
 No professional would have an issue with this.
It would definitely get my dander up; have my spidey-senses tingling that you might further push my boundaries.  

Why?  (I'm SO glad you asked!)

It's because my in-call hotel room feels like MY space to me.  
Yes, you are paying for my time but it is still my space; you are my guest.  This feeling is intensified when I'm on tour and actually LIVING in that room.

If you'd like to pull down the sheets, please ask first!  It only takes a couple of seconds, and as you are my guest, it feels like the polite thing to do.   Besides, the sheet that is on top might be cleaner; you just never know.  ;-)

When someone enters my hotel room and begins adjusting the lights, blinds, or whatever without a simple, "do you mind if I......"  that really rubs me the wrong way.  And in my own personal experience, these are often signs of a personality type with which I do not click at all.    

It only take a moment to make things feel a little friendlier; common courtesy shouldn't go out the window when you lay down the envelope.  :-)

 
Of course, I admit I'm a very regimented, high-strung old broad. ;-)  
Others are likely much more laid-back and gracious than I.
:-P

If, in the throes of passion, we go to the bed, and you have a hissy over me pulling down the covers....no, you and I  wouldn't work. LOL

I need and like spontaneity with sex, especially sex I am paying $$$$$ for.

But props for admitting you are a "very regimented, high-strung old broad."  

It may be an age thing, or a type A thing, as you suggest. IDK.  

Younger girls just don't give a shit about that kinda stuff, imo, and maybe they are better suited for my style and personality.

And this is the stuff I find out in pm's so you and I could avoid an awkward moment.

I still like you though. :)

GaGambler403 reads

Although being much nicer than you, I never said a thing about her being high strung. lol

and yes, I have to admit that I too would be taken slightly aback if someone freaked out just because I pulled back the cover. I guess I like spontaneity too. I also don't do well with women (mainly black) who freak out when you touch their hair. Some (many) stereotypes are rooted in truth, and one of them is "never touch a black woman's hair"

I did not say I would "freak out" on anyone nor would I have a hissy fit.  Sigh.  

In fact, I wouldn't say anything at all.  OK, there might be a disapproving look aimed your way, but that would be it.

 
But I wouldn't be as comfortable or relaxed with someone who did that.  And it's less fun for everyone if I'm not comfy.  

You need to understand that this is based upon my experiences: a high percentage of folks who presume to pull back bed-covers, turn lights on or off, turn on my TV/radio or do other such things...... have been dominant personality types.  Sometimes arrogant.  Or even boundary-pushers.  I don't get along well with any of these.  

Then there are the true predators who begin this way.... testing boundaries, seeing how far they can go.   So.... yeah.   When you enter my space and being treating it as YOURS..... it puts my guard up.  

There are also those who are just very cavalier about all of this: they do not take my preferences & instructions seriously or might even like to tease me about them.  While I do consider this to be a bit disrespectful, I usually just roll my eyes at such characters

When I do outcall, I never view the room as "mine", I view it as "ours." I want my guest to feel completely comfortable and be themselves.

And with the gals I see for incall, in my experience, they view it the same way.

Honestly DNG, I don't know a single person in p4p that would call pulling back the covers as "boundary pushing" but that is certainly your right and opinion to do so.

Now if they did all of the things you mention, yes, I can see that as problematic, but just pulling the sheet back...well...we just disagree on that one. Lol

Enjoy your weekend!

Treating what I regard as MY space as OURS; as though you have the RIGHT to mess with things without a simple, "hey do you mind if I pull back the covers?"..... no, that is not pushing boundaries in and of itself.

But as I explained to you via PM, there have been times when something that simple has been the precursor of a bad client or someone I just won't like.

Too many times.

 
If you see a lady at her private in-call apartment, do you still view that space as "ours"?  

What if she hosts from her home?
 
Whether I'm seeing a client or a male companion at a hotel, if I didn't secure that room for myself then it is not MINE or OURS.  It's HIS.  And I'll respect that by not disturbing anything without first asking out of social courtesy.

When I am a guest in someone else's home, hotel room, or vehicle I am respectful of their space.  I ASK prior to using the facilities, helping myself to a glass of water, or even adjusting the car seat.  Because it's THEIRS, not mine.  

And you know what.... on second thought.... that IS a small boundary.    
That boundary being the difference between yours, mine and ours.

Just because you're paying for a certain amount of my time, and we are in a hotel room, does not make that location even partially yours, in my opinion.   It's still MINE.   And yeah, I do expect my guests to respect that.  

So what I guess I'm saying is that while this is not "boundary pushing" in the way that phrase is most frequently used..... it is displaying a very different VIEW or perception of personal space and boundaries than what feels respectful to me.  

Your POV: Because you're in a room together, and you're paying her, you see that space as partially yours.  Which gives you the right to do what you will with the furnishings, bed-covers, etc.

My POV: I secured the room, am possibly LIVING IN IT for a few days, and I see it as my space and my space alone.  
My guests are just that.  GUESTS in what I view as my own little environment.    

To be a bit crude for a moment: you're paying me, and let's just say..... you put your cock in my pussy.    
That doesn't make my pussy "yours" or "ours".   It's still MINE, dammit.  ;-)

 
Yes, you and I clearly have fundamentally vastly different views of personal space and the social boundaries inherent to them.  ;-)

And you know what?  I totally respect your right to your own opinion and point of view.  :-

And not the sexy kind, either. I'm talking about the sweat 'stache, runny eyeliner, having to get up in the middle of things to adjust the a/c kind.

we plaied between the sheets...  We had a real snuggle fest enjoying the afterglow.  Somehow the cover ended up in a puddle in the middle of the bed...  we removed the condum & left the bed open so housekeeping would change the bed properly.  It was embarrassing...

But yeah most do everything on top, and personally For a quick romp I rather be on top, and I also like lights on, and a pretty bright room. I paid for a session with a provider because I liked her look, so dammit I want to see her!
Under the covers is good for snuggling, on long dates and overnights.

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Posted By: finisher
I've had a few sessions now and am surprised that they always take place on top of the sheets. I understand, I guess, if there is only one bed in the room and they actually sleep there, that they don't want to have sex between the sheets.  But every room I have visited has had two beds, presumably one for action and one for the escort to sleep in.   How come  nobody goes "under the covers?"  Is this just the quirks of the ones I have seen, or is this the standard?    
 

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