Yes, actually I am extrodinarly Super, but that is not the point - the point is I am more like George Peppard than Steve McQueen - and I have an A Team. With respect to my eyebrows - I do trim them...! as I do other parts of me body...
I posted this because I had no idea that some women could be labeled as Playuhs...(not by me but by others eventhough I have met several... )
Yes I have invested lots in one in particular - 10+ years, my savings and a couple of children - so - you see, I just might have an attitude for a reason - This weekend was spent telling my daughter, AGAIN, that I do care for her, and provide money to her Mom for her care - even though she is with me ~50% of the time... this right after her Mom told her that I was incapable of even providing lunch for her... even with yogurt, fresh fruit, a ham, turkey, cheese & tomato sandwich provided by me and sitting in front of her -
What did her mom provide - a hot dog and soft drink...
So you see, I am a bit cautious with the opposite sex... I have NO EXPECTATIONS - so when pleasant things happen - I am happy... and am never disappointed.... AND I actually know far more men who are playuhs than females... I was just surprised that this was considered "newsworthy" guess the Bru-ha-ha between TO and McNabb must be dying down... With respect to the investment of time.... Playuhs - male or female - never look at it as an investment - to them, the attention is all that is needed. If they don't get it from me, and in the format that they wish - sex, money, entertainment, food - they will get it from someone else... the other person to a playuh is interchangable.
But you do sound sweet (actually your posts are sensitive and kind)-- keep your innocence but beware, there are no prince charmings - only super dudes - with limited powers and a tendency to have difficulties with kryptonite... any form - green, red, blue or yellow...
go figure.
We've said a lot about the expense of civie dating... and now the femal "Playuh." Guess what, this is why I hobby. The other night I was with a georgous escort - we hit it off. She was nice but traveling... after our session, she hinted that she hated to eat alone.
I offered (one of the rare occasions that I did not have to be elsewhere). This is not the first time this has happened - I am an ok guy and do not mind going to dinner with someone - Knowing that there is no future (except for the hobbiest one) in the relationship. What an evening - This woman has a killer body - and although she dressed nice, noone could hide that package...
Had this been a civie date, and the lady offering the "promise of sex" rather than just dinner - I would have been crushed! cause ya know what - it was an investment of time... but this was nice... I hope that she enjoyed herself as well, and maybe this was just good customer relations on her part but you know what, even if it is just that, there was no deception on her part.
Read the attached article - this is the negative aspect of civie dating - and this is not new, I have know women like this for the better part of my adult life. So civies - which is more honest - a playuh - who hustles with the promise of sex or escorts who provide with an honest approach... I'll take honest anyday.
I often want to do dinner/lunch afterward, but after reading so many posts about guys trying to get "extra time" without paying, I seldom ask.
I just figured...if she has nowhere else to go and dinner was on me, what's the harm...
It was more - "hey, I am hungry"- I've also brought fruit and drinks to my sessions... and clothes... I think it goes with my overall philosophy - that is, I actually pretend that this is a real civie "date" I know that I enjoy it more, and it is my sincere hope that they ladies do also... It is also not about "getting extra time" - lord knows - I flatout don't have any, as I stated this was rare! besides that, as you know, I do worry about kryptonite, and unfortunately this lady did not have a protable cyclotron to do the elemental transformation - should there be any kryptonite around.. sad I know, I know only one provider who has access to a cyclotron - AND SHE is my ATF!
Was reading this and thought to myself how many times I have been there over the years. You see, I used to make a habit out of dating emotionally unavailable women; some were even married. Then I met a real shark and never saw it coming. She fileted my soul for about 6 months and everyone saw it except for me. Call it my Karmic-dusting. Now, in the times that I have been invited out after sessions, I usually decline mainly because of the lateness of the hour, but secondarily because providers are not emotionally available to most of us. Inasmuch as I've had some awesome sessions, I tend to make a clean break after them, prefering to "dine" on the memories until next time.
-- Modified on 8/28/2005 9:01:51 PM
I agree, several of my friend providers have made it crystal clear that we are friends only - who share an hour or two of lust on occasion - and that it it! They have their lives and I have other concerns.
And while your soul may have been fileted, I have had a lot more than that surgically carved up... was married - and was really harmed by the experience... So, if a provider came on with expectations for "romance" I would probably be "emotionally unavailable" as I am for a civie affair -
OMG, I've become cold and distant! eeks.
A total tease and b!^@%. Sometimes girls just want to have a little fun and that is it..... And if initial greetings lead to a club, etc after drinks, it's all for fun. It doesn't mean we'll go home with you! Never have done that, in fact.... Like to screen first, correspond via email, and get a sense of who someone is, rather than meeting someone randomly at a party/ club and carrying on.
Have probably busted a lot of balls, not at all spitefully -- but brought on a hell of a lot of turn-on's after a few kisses and once in a while slightly more.... But again, would never go home with a random guy I just met.... That would take several (3-4+) dates, and he'd have to meet all the normal standards.....
In my definition - I would probably consider you a playuh!
but are you... and would you hint to a client that you are hungry and would like to go out to grab a bite to eat!?
And re grabbing a bite to eat, that would be fine, but the same rates for my time apply..... Otherwise, I love treating myself to 4-star restaurants solo......
easy after awhile to ask for money for your companionship on any level, but it's also incredibly selfish (and sad) that you associate every waking hour with a dollar amount. Good luck.
-- Modified on 8/30/2005 12:23:23 PM
was sincere, and I noticed that. When she returns, I will book more time with her. As per my comments, I don't know if it was good PR, or a genuine desire to have someone escort her to have dinner.... don't care - it was a pleasent evening for both of us. Hey - it happens - to make more or less of it would be a mistake... but she - on that night - and in that manner - made me like being with her - all in all not a bad thing in this business..... So I agree with your comment about the lady in NYC - sad no?
Glad you had a positive experience after a date. I have had a couple in the years that I have been around and when its good, it's really good. Unrehearsed, genuine, and very hot and no talk of dead presidents.
You said, "Had this been a civie date, and the lady offering the "promise of sex" rather than just dinner - I would have been crushed! cause ya know what - it was an investment of time...."
Offering the "promise of sex". Gosh, I never realised that whenever I went out with an ordinary guy on an ordinary date it was on that basis - but as a superhero maybe you're extraordinary on both counts.
Maybe that's a clue as to why you seem prone to disappointment If a woman goes out with a guy on a date, then really I think she's doing it - gasp - *to get to know him better*. She's wondering whether he's WORTH the promise of sex. And sometimes, frankly, he isn't - and that can be for a plethora of reasons - from the look of his eyebrows (could I bear to have those looking down at me?) to the way he sucks his soup (if he does that to his food, what's he going to be doing to my nether regions?). Or it could just turn out that she despises his politics, or his attitude to children and small animals, or whatever. Maybe he talks about himself so much that he comes across as a prize jackass or a rivetting bore, so she does an impression of Steve McQueen and makes a Great Escape.
It's an investment of time for both parties, and so I guess it can be viewed as a waste of time on both sides. But, you know what, I prefer to put it down to experience and learn from it.
Oh, and one more thing. Are women these days really so tight-fisted? I never avoid putting my hand in my pocket to buy a round of drinks or whatever, but maybe that's just me. I don't expect to freeload.
As far as playuhs are concerned, I guess that there's no sex discrimination when it comes to being an egotistical, selfish, grabbing bastard. But we all know that, don't we?
Aphra
-- Modified on 8/29/2005 7:19:37 AM
Yes, actually I am extrodinarly Super, but that is not the point - the point is I am more like George Peppard than Steve McQueen - and I have an A Team. With respect to my eyebrows - I do trim them...! as I do other parts of me body...
I posted this because I had no idea that some women could be labeled as Playuhs...(not by me but by others eventhough I have met several... )
Yes I have invested lots in one in particular - 10+ years, my savings and a couple of children - so - you see, I just might have an attitude for a reason - This weekend was spent telling my daughter, AGAIN, that I do care for her, and provide money to her Mom for her care - even though she is with me ~50% of the time... this right after her Mom told her that I was incapable of even providing lunch for her... even with yogurt, fresh fruit, a ham, turkey, cheese & tomato sandwich provided by me and sitting in front of her -
What did her mom provide - a hot dog and soft drink...
So you see, I am a bit cautious with the opposite sex... I have NO EXPECTATIONS - so when pleasant things happen - I am happy... and am never disappointed.... AND I actually know far more men who are playuhs than females... I was just surprised that this was considered "newsworthy" guess the Bru-ha-ha between TO and McNabb must be dying down... With respect to the investment of time.... Playuhs - male or female - never look at it as an investment - to them, the attention is all that is needed. If they don't get it from me, and in the format that they wish - sex, money, entertainment, food - they will get it from someone else... the other person to a playuh is interchangable.
But you do sound sweet (actually your posts are sensitive and kind)-- keep your innocence but beware, there are no prince charmings - only super dudes - with limited powers and a tendency to have difficulties with kryptonite... any form - green, red, blue or yellow...
go figure.
Thank you for your reply. I do understand where you are coming from. You know, after describing your daughter's lunch you ought to change your supervillain status to one of superhero: Metrosexual SuperMan. Just kidding. I think.
I'm very pleased to hear that you trim your body hair. It's a very odd feeling, wanting to extract my tweezers and pluck someone's nasal hairs, especially when we've only just met and he's kindly bought me a glass of Sauvignon Blanc.
Women have been playuhs for centuries, BS, they just called it something else. But don't let us get into that name-ascribing shennanigans again. I just tucked my Thesaurus into bed.
I know that there are no Prince Charmings - as a Brit I have my very own prototype at whom to look askance. I'd much rather have the late, great Steve McQueen as a hero. He drove fast cars, shagged lots of lovely women and didn't lose his gorgeousness even with a beard as bushy as Catweasel's. But you know what - the reason I mentioned him is that as an American he survived to live another day in the Great Escape. The Brits all got shot.
Love, Aphra
PS Is this your posse? A-team indeed. George is almost as gorgeous as Steve, btw, so don't despair. There is hope for you yet.
-- Modified on 8/29/2005 5:57:49 PM
My costumes do tend to get the guys in the gym a bit "excited." Why they wonder do I wear color coordinated exercise outfits - when they all wear grey!!! I love that picture! Thanks, the grins are what keep most of us going.